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It's really worked out for FC Nova. At U14 they are in second place and at U15 they are in third. In U16, U17 and U18 they are dead last in their league. And nonne of their teams have qualified for Champions league. All of that money spent to go out and get slammed. I'm sure the college coaches are impressed.

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It's really worked out for FC Nova. At U14 they are in second place and at U15 they are in third. In U16, U17 and U18 they are dead last in their league. And nonne of their teams have qualified for Champions league. All of that money spent to go out and get slammed. I'm sure the college coaches are impressed.

Great uniforms though...

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It's really worked out for FC Nova. At U14 they are in second place and at U15 they are in third. In U16, U17 and U18 they are dead last in their league. And nonne of their teams have qualified for Champions league. All of that money spent to go out and get slammed. I'm sure the college coaches are impressed.

You do not have to play for a good team to be recognized as a great player. One thing for sure FC nova has had there ecnl players exposed to many many more colleges than your dd. Some people just don't get it. Of course no one wants to be last place and with nova at least Portland won't be. You should feel good about that. Then again maybe maybe not. Either way you seem to be a someone that just doesn't understand. Let me try one more time to help you out. If your dd is good she will be recognized for it, ECNL will give her much more exposure than anything else. Hope this helps. Now go slap yourself for being stupid!

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You do not have to play for a good team to be recognized as a great player. One thing for sure FC nova has had there ecnl players exposed to many many more colleges than your dd. Some people just don't get it. Of course no one wants to be last place and with nova at least Portland won't be. You should feel good about that. Then again maybe maybe not. Either way you seem to be a someone that just doesn't understand. Let me try one more time to help you out. If your dd is good she will be recognized for it, ECNL will give her much more exposure than anything else. Hope this helps. Now go slap yourself for being stupid!

How do you know they've had more exposure? You don't know what tournaments, ID camps, visits, ... my DD has done. And furthermore, talking to college coaches, of which you never have done apparently, they say that playing on a low level ECNL team is a negative. But get ready to pony up those dollars there dad and tell yourself it's worth it. Of course, that is IF Oregon gets ECNL and IF your DD makes the teams. Both are highly questionable.

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The answer is in the mail.

The current ECNL clubs were sent an email yesterday that asked them to approve THUSC and FC Portland as ECNL members for 2014-2015. Should hear if they got approved soon.

Let's see the letter or an official notification from someone. There is no ECNL until then. We have been hearing "just wait one more week" for over a month. Its all nonsense marketing to get players to tryout for these clubs.

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How do you know they've had more exposure? You don't know what tournaments, ID camps, visits, ... my DD has done. And furthermore, talking to college coaches, of which you never have done apparently, they say that playing on a low level ECNL team is a negative. But get ready to pony up those dollars there dad and tell yourself it's worth it. Of course, that is IF Oregon gets ECNL and IF your DD makes the teams. Both are highly questionable.

If playing on a "low level" ECNL team is a "negative" as you say then I wonder what those same coaches would say about playing on a low to average club level team like everything around here? Your argument doesn't bode well for Oregon Club players now does it?

The one thing that is being missed here is that coaches recruit PLAYERS not teams. If your player is truly college caliber she will be recognized as long as she is putting herself out there, contacting schools/coaches, drumming up interest and attending events that the college coaches of her preferred schools are attending. 99% of players have to work hard to get seen by their preferred schools. It rarely just "happens", maybe for those top 1%'ers.

Beyond being a highly competitive league the ECNL is a great platform for girls to get seen by more coaches then your run of the mill "showcase" tournament. Is it the only way? No
It's the hotspot at this point in time. Will it change? Probably- everything always does.

Using your Nova example. If Nova is at a ECNL event and a player has contacted their top 10 schools and 9 out of 10 are there. Nova is playing So CA Blues / Pleasanton Rage / Colorado Rush etc. There is a very good chance those 9 out of 10 coaches are going to be watching that game with a stack of players résumés for those other teams and the Nova player(s) as well. They're already at the event and they're already interested in the game/players. They're there to look at players not teams ... key is they are there.
Contrast that to an average club team who is at an average showcase event where maybe none or only a hand full of the coaches from the preferred schools are in attendance. The Player still may get a look but the chances they don't are far greater. Are the coaches even there? Are they interested in players on the other team which will increase the chance they make time for that game etc. Certainly not impossible but the odds are certainly less.

The ECNL is not a panacea. It's a great competitive league that has figured out how to create an environment that meets college coaches recruiting needs better then anyone else at the moment. And yes it cost $$$. Some can pay - some can't.

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If playing on a "low level" ECNL team is a "negative" as you say then I wonder what those same coaches would say about playing on a low to average club level team like everything around here? Your argument doesn't bode well for Oregon Club players now does it?

The one thing that is being missed here is that coaches recruit PLAYERS not teams. If your player is truly college caliber she will be recognized as long as she is putting herself out there, contacting schools/coaches, drumming up interest and attending events that the college coaches of her preferred schools are attending. 99% of players have to work hard to get seen by their preferred schools. It rarely just "happens", maybe for those top 1%'ers.

Beyond being a highly competitive league the ECNL is a great platform for girls to get seen by more coaches then your run of the mill "showcase" tournament. Is it the only way? No
It's the hotspot at this point in time. Will it change? Probably- everything always does.

Using your Nova example. If Nova is at a ECNL event and a player has contacted their top 10 schools and 9 out of 10 are there. Nova is playing So CA Blues / Pleasanton Rage / Colorado Rush etc. There is a very good chance those 9 out of 10 coaches are going to be watching that game with a stack of players résumés for those other teams and the Nova player(s) as well. They're already at the event and they're already interested in the game/players. They're there to look at players not teams ... key is they are there.
Contrast that to an average club team who is at an average showcase event where maybe none or only a hand full of the coaches from the preferred schools are in attendance. The Player still may get a look but the chances they don't are far greater. Are the coaches even there? Are they interested in players on the other team which will increase the chance they make time for that game etc. Certainly not impossible but the odds are certainly less.

The ECNL is not a panacea. It's a great competitive league that has figured out how to create an environment that meets college coaches recruiting needs better then anyone else at the moment. And yes it cost $$$. Some can pay - some can't.

The other point I meant to highlight: IT'S A HIGHLY COMPETITIVE LEAGUE.
Unlike anything we currently have around here. Put our better players in a better environment and they will grow. How in the world can we expect our players to elevate their game if all they play in is the OYSA / OPL quagmire? Sure there's ODP but that's yet another disappointing topic.

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If playing on a "low level" ECNL team is a "negative" as you say then I wonder what those same coaches would say about playing on a low to average club level team like everything around here? Your argument doesn't bode well for Oregon Club players now does it?

The one thing that is being missed here is that coaches recruit PLAYERS not teams. If your player is truly college caliber she will be recognized as long as she is putting herself out there, contacting schools/coaches, drumming up interest and attending events that the college coaches of her preferred schools are attending. 99% of players have to work hard to get seen by their preferred schools. It rarely just "happens", maybe for those top 1%'ers.

Beyond being a highly competitive league the ECNL is a great platform for girls to get seen by more coaches then your run of the mill "showcase" tournament. Is it the only way? No
It's the hotspot at this point in time. Will it change? Probably- everything always does.

Using your Nova example. If Nova is at a ECNL event and a player has contacted their top 10 schools and 9 out of 10 are there. Nova is playing So CA Blues / Pleasanton Rage / Colorado Rush etc. There is a very good chance those 9 out of 10 coaches are going to be watching that game with a stack of players résumés for those other teams and the Nova player(s) as well. They're already at the event and they're already interested in the game/players. They're there to look at players not teams ... key is they are there.
Contrast that to an average club team who is at an average showcase event where maybe none or only a hand full of the coaches from the preferred schools are in attendance. The Player still may get a look but the chances they don't are far greater. Are the coaches even there? Are they interested in players on the other team which will increase the chance they make time for that game etc. Certainly not impossible but the odds are certainly less.

The ECNL is not a panacea. It's a great competitive league that has figured out how to create an environment that meets college coaches recruiting needs better then anyone else at the moment. And yes it cost $$$. Some can pay - some can't.

Well said.

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The other point I meant to highlight: IT'S A HIGHLY COMPETITIVE LEAGUE.
Unlike anything we currently have around here. Put our better players in a better environment and they will grow. How in the world can we expect our players to elevate their game if all they play in is the OYSA / OPL quagmire? Sure there's ODP but that's yet another disappointing topic.

What are the reasons for the Timbers ODP program falling in the toilet?

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What are the reasons for the Timbers ODP program falling in the toilet?

Doesn't have the best players and coaches for a start.

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What are the reasons for the Timbers ODP program falling in the toilet?

On the girls' side, there is no question it was the OPL/OYSA split. The teams were doing well and getting better. The 94's, 95's, 96's, and 97's were into it and most (not all) of the top players were participating. This is not a matter of placing blame, but there clearly is a direct correlation between the split and the decline of ODP in this state. Now it's hit and miss, and most of the DOC's with OPL clubs don't encourage their players to play.

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On the girls' side, there is no question it was the OPL/OYSA split. The teams were doing well and getting better. The 94's, 95's, 96's, and 97's were into it and most (not all) of the top players were participating. This is not a matter of placing blame, but there clearly is a direct correlation between the split and the decline of ODP in this state. Now it's hit and miss, and most of the DOC's with OPL clubs don't encourage their players to play.

Oregon is not unique with the value of ODP declining. This is happening in most states. The model is antiquated and there are better alternatives like the ECNL and other high quality competitive clubs (not in Oregon).

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What are the reasons for the Timbers ODP program falling in the toilet?

It is expensive.

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Right - Compared to ECNL

It is expensive.

Wow, someone is not reading the post.

If you think ODP is expensive, then the ECNL is way out of your league.

What do they say. If you have to ask, you can't afford.

LOL at this mess.

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On the girls' side, there is no question it was the OPL/OYSA split. The teams were doing well and getting better. The 94's, 95's, 96's, and 97's were into it and most (not all) of the top players were participating. This is not a matter of placing blame, but there clearly is a direct correlation between the split and the decline of ODP in this state. Now it's hit and miss, and most of the DOC's with OPL clubs don't encourage their players to play.

I wonder why $$$