Teams switching to timbers oysa

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This is awesome

I hope both leagues operate and play against each other. It will be alot of fun battling and seeing who puts forth the better teams. WHOOP WHOOP, fun fun fun.

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Never Happen in League

I hope both leagues operate and play against each other. It will be alot of fun battling and seeing who puts forth the better teams. WHOOP WHOOP, fun fun fun.

The leagues would have to dual register with each other. They are not going to do that. This is a fight to the death (like Nike and adidas).

The only place where they will cross is tournaments. The Clubs running a event will register the tournament with both US Club and OYSA. They want to make money.

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The leagues would have to dual register with each other. They are not going to do that. This is a fight to the death (like Nike and adidas).

The only place where they will cross is tournaments. The Clubs running a event will register the tournament with both US Club and OYSA. They want to make money.

The difference has nothing to do with Nike and adidas and everything to do with GW and the Timbers trying to control and profit from youth soccer.

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I just don't think this has to be a "dual to the death"
Dual register if you must. It doesn't sound like it's impossible to do. If some clubs are going to be playing in both leagues then it certainly sounds doable.

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I just don't think this has to be a "dual to the death"
Dual register if you must. It doesn't sound like it's impossible to do. If some clubs are going to be playing in both leagues then it certainly sounds doable.

It's nothing new. Most Wash Timbers teams have been dual registering for years: US Club for OPL and US Youth for PML Spring and WA State Cup. Not a big deal.

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It sounds all well and good, but since none of you have ever ran a tourney, nor a league you have no idea the logistics involved with it.

In order to qualify for the FWR's, you must win your state cup, by playing in qualifying games where the rostered players are verified. How would you do this when the OPL doesnt collect them, nor does their state ending tourney require it. Their regionals and championships dont even require you have the same players on it as you did during league or state cup play ? USYS has a roster freeze date and only those on it can participate on the team as you continue on.

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If that's the case then your DD's club sucks. My dd gets all the competition and training she needs from her club and OPL. Your probably from Medford.

Musta struck a nerve there huh ?

With half the teams going to OYSA what type of competition will she have next year ? She's gonna get a lil tired playing OSSA, FC or THUSC every other weekend for a challenge, the rest will be a cardio workout at best.

Oh !!! Tell us exactly how and what the OPL (specifically) does for the development of your daughter personally ? Were all ears !!

BTW........we live in SW Portland.

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First off, you are unregistered yourself.

Second, you sound like a paid OYSA employee or one of those parents that lives way out in the boonies and wants the OYSA thing to be successful so that you don't have to drive as much.

You still haven't answered the question of the day. What has been changed to make things so much better that people should switch to OYSA/TIMBERS Org. ? It sounds to me like the same issues that created OPL are still there. So why would you move back to the same old problem.

Always the first response when someone put down the OPL to its supporters "You must be a paid OYSA employee". Have you nothing better to come up with ? Since I think they only have 2.5 people left there probably isnt a lot of time in their day to sit and argue with idiots like you.

I live in the greater Portland area. Im not sure what problems you are talking about. Your about as vague as you can be. What exactly has the OPL done to improve soccer in this state ?

They promised better scheduling (FAIL !!)
They promised no travel (FAIL !!)
They spoke about FREE elite training = ID2 (FAIL !!)
They spoke of lower costs to the teams...yet no OPC clubs tuition's were ever reduced (FAIL !!)

The only thing the OPL did was create an income source to a group of the most powerful clubs in Portland for and only for themselves. It was power and control that was at the root of their existence. If not, why wouldnt they have taken the offer to return to OYSA a couple of years ago and still run and manage their own (and all of the rest of the OYSA) leagues ? They were not only offered card fees the same as they were paying, allowed to run the only statewide premier league and collect all their fees they had been, plus all the league fees for the existing league that OYSA was running.

I can see and read their annual reports, as well as their monthly BOD's minutes that OYSA spends their money all across the state to every player they can (including those far less fortunate then the majority = Top Soccer)

They offer coach training and licensing (the very license every coach in this state holds, including your beloved OPL coach) Shouldnt you thank them for doing that ?, the OPL cant do it.

They offer an elite training program to those that are deserving and worthy (ODP/DA) to as many as they should (Not even a local club could do this successfully, i.e. FC PDX).

Their player fees are exactly the same as the OPL's.

Their league fees are exactly the same as the OPL's

So where does all that money go, or going to go that is considered excess or "profit" in the OPC books ? Nobody knows and nobody will ever know til one of them spills the beans in disgust.

If I have to give my tuition payment profit to an organization, Id like it to go to one that helps promote the whole sport across the board to as many kids as possible, even those as far away from Portland as possible. That is how a state organization is supposed to run. If there is any left over, Id surely give it to it's title sponsor (Timbers) for supporting the sport all across the state to as many kids as possible.

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Impressed

That seems way to intelligent to be on this board. Well said.

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That seems way to intelligent to be on this board. Well said.

Im sure if you were to put up a Pro vs. Cons for both organizations and really looked at it all that both do and offer, most, except those drunk from the kool-ade still would be hard pressed to argue that OYSA's structure, foundation and national backing will never be duplicated by US Club/OPL.

US Club exists for one reason only. Cheap insurance. They try and make themselves look the same by supporting elite leagues (ran by others) and broad interpretations of a national championship, but the problem is their infra-structure. They are lead by those that are only in it for themselves (their clubs or local organizations) and not the greater good of the game to all.

There are bound be successful elite leagues (i.e. ECNL) locally or regionally, but when you consider a national program, USYSA is the still the strongest. You win that, and everyone takes notice because it's available to everyone and those that participate know your playing against everyone, not just a select few.

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They offer coach training and licensing (the very license every coach in this state holds, including your beloved OPL coach)

hold on now - coaches were offered on line training and licensing. I'm sure adding that link for nscaa.com at the bottom of the OPL page was pretty difficult.

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always the first response when someone put down the opl to its supporters "you must be a paid oysa employee". Have you nothing better to come up with ? Since i think they only have 2.5 people left there probably isnt a lot of time in their day to sit and argue with idiots like you.

I live in the greater portland area. Im not sure what problems you are talking about. Your about as vague as you can be. What exactly has the opl done to improve soccer in this state ?

They promised better scheduling (fail !!)
they promised no travel (fail !!)
they spoke about free elite training = id2 (fail !!)
they spoke of lower costs to the teams...yet no opc clubs tuition's were ever reduced (fail !!)

the only thing the opl did was create an income source to a group of the most powerful clubs in portland for and only for themselves. It was power and control that was at the root of their existence. If not, why wouldnt they have taken the offer to return to oysa a couple of years ago and still run and manage their own (and all of the rest of the oysa) leagues ? They were not only offered card fees the same as they were paying, allowed to run the only statewide premier league and collect all their fees they had been, plus all the league fees for the existing league that oysa was running.

I can see and read their annual reports, as well as their monthly bod's minutes that oysa spends their money all across the state to every player they can (including those far less fortunate then the majority = top soccer)

they offer coach training and licensing (the very license every coach in this state holds, including your beloved opl coach) shouldnt you thank them for doing that ?, the opl cant do it.

They offer an elite training program to those that are deserving and worthy (odp/da) to as many as they should (not even a local club could do this successfully, i.e. Fc pdx).

Their player fees are exactly the same as the opl's.

Their league fees are exactly the same as the opl's

so where does all that money go, or going to go that is considered excess or "profit" in the opc books ? Nobody knows and nobody will ever know til one of them spills the beans in disgust.

If i have to give my tuition payment profit to an organization, id like it to go to one that helps promote the whole sport across the board to as many kids as possible, even those as far away from portland as possible. That is how a state organization is supposed to run. If there is any left over, id surely give it to it's title sponsor (timbers) for supporting the sport all across the state to as many kids as possible.

amen!

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It sounds all well and good, but since none of you have ever ran a tourney, nor a league you have no idea the logistics involved with it.

In order to qualify for the FWR's, you must win your state cup, by playing in qualifying games where the rostered players are verified.

Or, new this year, by winning the FWRL.

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Or, new this year, by winning the FWRL.

either way you have to be registered with OYSA with verified rosters

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seems

It seems the same people that brought us the new improved OPL are now bringing us the new imporved OYSA and TA. HMMMM

Think I have been down this road before.