Teams switching to timbers oysa

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And the reason I think this has to do with travel is that it seems to me the teams that are truly excited the most about this are teams that are in outer lying areas, like the elitist lib braniac from Eugene.

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Plus this is just going to add greenhouse gases into our atmosphere for nothing gained.

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The TA clubs and OYSA supporters will be switching back to OYSA. I think the rest will inevitably follow eventually just like most clubs eventually switched over to the OPL back when. There won't be much difference in league play once the shift back to OYSA is complete. Same clubs and teams. Just a cluster for a couple years tho... Oregon really can't support two separate leagues.

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Clubs are moving from the OPL to the Timbers run OYSA so they Timbers can make MORE money off youth soccer in Oregon. They are not satisfied with the money they make from the TA clubs. They want more.

I don't think this has a thing to do about money. It has everything to do with "control".
The local professional team, Timbers / MLS, have a vision (agree with it or not) on how soccer should be organized from the bottom (Youth) to the top (Professionals) and they are exerting their muscle to make it happen. The Timbers organization believe their model will produce the best soccer players. Their "profit" is only realized when they can graduate players into their professional system. Any revenue generated at the youth level is nominal and I'd guess the Timbers just want it to pay for itself rather than be an expense.
Like it or not, It seems the train has left the station and the only true option in the near term is to get on board (OYSA).

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I don't think this has a thing to do about money. It has everything to do with "control".
The local professional team, Timbers / MLS, have a vision (agree with it or not) on how soccer should be organized from the bottom (Youth) to the top (Professionals) and they are exerting their muscle to make it happen. The Timbers organization believe their model will produce the best soccer players. Their "profit" is only realized when they can graduate players into their professional system. Any revenue generated at the youth level is nominal and I'd guess the Timbers just want it to pay for itself rather than be an expense.
Like it or not, It seems the train has left the station and the only true option in the near term is to get on board (OYSA).

You are right. It is a power grab, and a money grab. (I do not think it is a ton of money but there will be some). The problem is what will be the procedure to make these players better quality? Are they going to supply new coaches? Will ODP have a higher caliber of coaches? training? WHAT WHAT WHAT???? I want t know what is this model? This new season of ODP has nothing new or better to offer. The coaches are all the same in the clubs and ODP SO? Enlighten me please. Maybe there will be some benefit for boys, but girls?

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You are right. It is a power grab, and a money grab. (I do not think it is a ton of money but there will be some). The problem is what will be the procedure to make these players better quality? Are they going to supply new coaches? Will ODP have a higher caliber of coaches? training? WHAT WHAT WHAT???? I want t know what is this model? This new season of ODP has nothing new or better to offer. The coaches are all the same in the clubs and ODP SO? Enlighten me please. Maybe there will be some benefit for boys, but girls?

IDK ... I have the same questions. It appears that the Timbers have a master plan (?) but none of the details. Or at least have not communicated the details very well. When there is a lack of communication one can only assume and it's human nature to assume the worst. To that end the Timbers are only inviting skepticism and criticism by leaving us all in the dark.
They need to get ahead of this or suffer the negative critique. The 500 lb. gorilla tactics won't work in the long run.

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Quit with your elitist bs regarding intelligence, I drive enough as it is. It's not just a game in Bend or Medford. I drive every day to and from practice and training and work. My dd has plenty of competition right here in Portland/Metro area. I'm guessing that you don't work, and you have all the time in the day to tr la la around and make snipes about other people's brains. I have to work and pay taxes. You probably don't do either one of those activities. And don't come back with "then your kid shouldn't be playing club soccer". She gets to play almost all of the best teams right here in Portland. After your little snide remarks regarding my "intelligence" I'm thinking I do want to travel down to your little liberal bastion of a town and watch my dd's team kick the living crap out your team.

Can I suggest you read your own post? You get all bent out of shape that I have an elitist attitude, and then you start insulting me claiming I don't work, I don't pay taxes, and that your "big town" team is going to come kick my little teams tail. So who is the overbearing elitist? It might interest you to know that I also work, pay taxes, and have to squeeze travel in between everything else. I am also sick of the attitude that somehow the mighty Portland teams grace us with their presence when they travel to a game. If you want to claim to play in a state league, you have to play teams from around the state. If a team isn't worthy competition, they won't be in your league so you won't play them, although with the image you seem to have of your child's team, perhaps that just leaves them to play with themselves...

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It is not worth it if the competition does not justify the travel which is the case.

This doesn't make any sense, if the competition doesn't justify the travel, they wouldn't be playing at the same level...this is a non-issue.

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IDK ... I have the same questions. It appears that the Timbers have a master plan (?) but none of the details. Or at least have not communicated the details very well. When there is a lack of communication one can only assume and it's human nature to assume the worst. To that end the Timbers are only inviting skepticism and criticism by leaving us all in the dark.
They need to get ahead of this or suffer the negative critique. The 500 lb. gorilla tactics won't work in the long run.

I really don't get these kinds of arguments. Our club is a TA club and we've received a ton of info from the club, directly and through the team managers. Some people still do tend to complain, but then back off when I ask if they actually read the materials they received. You should not be relying on the Timbers for the info. Start with your team manager and club, and I suspect that you'll find the answers you're looking for. Whether you like the answers is a different story, but the info about the TA is readily available.

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I really don't get these kinds of arguments. Our club is a TA club and we've received a ton of info from the club, directly and through the team managers. Some people still do tend to complain, but then back off when I ask if they actually read the materials they received. You should not be relying on the Timbers for the info. Start with your team manager and club, and I suspect that you'll find the answers you're looking for. Whether you like the answers is a different story, but the info about the TA is readily available.

To clarify: I think the big picture has been communicated but the details are lacking. And even more concerning so is any improvement to youth soccer. Just "more of the same".
My kids are TA and I've read the information and asked questions.
NOTHING substantial is different then b4 except we are all wearing the same uniforms and now we are all moving back to OYSA. That's it? That's the master plan? Where does that get us?
Previous poster was asking what the Timbers Alliance is offering, what are they doing better? Clubs are the same / DOC's are the same / Coaches are the same / Teams are the same / Training is the same / ODP is the same except for "branding": Timbers / Thorns / Fields & facilities are the same / same - same - same.

I want to believe that a professional organization (MLS) can step in and improve youth soccer but over the past couple years it doesn't really appear that much has improved or even changed for that matter. Just a lot of talk / hype /promises / selling / marketing .... when can expect something meaningful? I want to believe but I'm losing faith.

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Communicating the big picture with no details is classic bait and switch tactics. Over promise and under deliver. But reel them in first.

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To clarify: I think the big picture has been communicated but the details are lacking.

What details are you looking for that you cannot find or understand ?

I want to believe that a professional organization (MLS) can step in and improve youth soccer but over the past couple years it doesn't really appear that much has improved or even changed for that matter. Just a lot of talk / hype /promises / selling / marketing .... when can expect something meaningful? I want to believe but I'm losing faith.

What are you expecting to change that will make it meaningful ? or are you just one of those that likes to biotch and complain here cause you can, all the while hiding behind you "unregistered"" screen name ?

Development of your player requires them to attend and put forth 100% effort 100% of the time, that is the same for you as a parent. If you go to practice or games with a crappy attitude, so will your player. Does your attitude change for the better after reading others complaints and poor attitude here ? I know mine doesnt.

You can point your crooked lil finger at everyone you like, but it is up to your family to get the most you can out of the opportunity YOUVE selected. If you dont think the coach, club and/or league is providing the opportunities, then look elsewhere, but dont expect the Timbers organization to magically sprinkle some sort of fairy dust on your lil johnny or suzie and make her a pro just cause their name is atop the letterhead now. You didnt get it from the OPL either.

Many players (including mine) got more from private training and ODP (playing with and against the best players assembled for training) then they ever did from club practices.

Try looking in the mirror for just a moment and ask yourself "Am I putting forth the most that I can to ensure my child has the best opportunity to succeed ?"

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Communicating the big picture with no details is classic bait and switch tactics. Over promise and under deliver. But reel them in first.

You mean like the OPL did 5 years ago ? right ? your the perfect person that should keep your darling lil kid just exactly where they are. dont change, it wont do you any good and they arent going to get any better at it either.

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What details are you looking for that you cannot find or understand ?



What are you expecting to change that will make it meaningful ? or are you just one of those that likes to biotch and complain here cause you can, all the while hiding behind you "unregistered"" screen name ?

Development of your player requires them to attend and put forth 100% effort 100% of the time, that is the same for you as a parent. If you go to practice or games with a crappy attitude, so will your player. Does your attitude change for the better after reading others complaints and poor attitude here ? I know mine doesnt.

You can point your crooked lil finger at everyone you like, but it is up to your family to get the most you can out of the opportunity YOUVE selected. If you dont think the coach, club and/or league is providing the opportunities, then look elsewhere, but dont expect the Timbers organization to magically sprinkle some sort of fairy dust on your lil johnny or suzie and make her a pro just cause their name is atop the letterhead now. You didnt get it from the OPL either.

Many players (including mine) got more from private training and ODP (playing with and against the best players assembled for training) then they ever did from club practices.

Try looking in the mirror for just a moment and ask yourself "Am I putting forth the most that I can to ensure my child has the best opportunity to succeed ?"

First off, you are unregistered yourself.

Second, you sound like a paid OYSA employee or one of those parents that lives way out in the boonies and wants the OYSA thing to be successful so that you don't have to drive as much.

You still haven't answered the question of the day. What has been changed to make things so much better that people should switch to OYSA/TIMBERS Org. ? It sounds to me like the same issues that created OPL are still there. So why would you move back to the same old problem.

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What details are you looking for that you cannot find or understand ?



What are you expecting to change that will make it meaningful ? or are you just one of those that likes to biotch and complain here cause you can, all the while hiding behind you "unregistered"" screen name ?

Development of your player requires them to attend and put forth 100% effort 100% of the time, that is the same for you as a parent. If you go to practice or games with a crappy attitude, so will your player. Does your attitude change for the better after reading others complaints and poor attitude here ? I know mine doesnt.

You can point your crooked lil finger at everyone you like, but it is up to your family to get the most you can out of the opportunity YOUVE selected. If you dont think the coach, club and/or league is providing the opportunities, then look elsewhere, but dont expect the Timbers organization to magically sprinkle some sort of fairy dust on your lil johnny or suzie and make her a pro just cause their name is atop the letterhead now. You didnt get it from the OPL either.

Many players (including mine) got more from private training and ODP (playing with and against the best players assembled for training) then they ever did from club practices.

Try looking in the mirror for just a moment and ask yourself "Am I putting forth the most that I can to ensure my child has the best opportunity to succeed ?"

If that's the case then your DD's club sucks. My dd gets all the competition and training she needs from her club and OPL. Your probably from Medford.