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Big Weekend

This is it!!! The big weekend !!!! Good luck to all !!!!

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Stats for College Soccer (other sports)

Many of you have lovely dreams for your kids.

Live and learn.

Only 1-2% of Players (boys/girls) will play in sports College at all levels.

Most will get a little money. Very few get a full or almost full ride at D1. Those kids are regionally / national pool players with very good grade (3.5/3.75 plus). The other levels (D2/NAIA/JC) may still give full rides, but don't count on it. D3 is all academic/merit.

Most programs give out money in tenths of scholarship.

Most programs count on the student to get merit or academic funds to attend school.

The average time frame a student will spend taking part in his/her sport in college is 1.1 yrs.

Students taking any money from a college can be expect to live under the thumb of the Coach. Sport funding is give every year and can be withdrawn at any time as the coach sees fit.

So, spend your money on getting good grades. Pick the school you want to get a education from and maybe play a sport.

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Many of you have lovely dreams for your kids.

Live and learn.

Only 1-2% of Players (boys/girls) will play in sports College at all levels.

Most will get a little money. Very few get a full or almost full ride at D1. Those kids are regionally / national pool players with very good grade (3.5/3.75 plus). The other levels (D2/NAIA/JC) may still give full rides, but don't count on it. D3 is all academic/merit.

Most programs give out money in tenths of scholarship.

Most programs count on the student to get merit or academic funds to attend school.

The average time frame a student will spend taking part in his/her sport in college is 1.1 yrs.

Students taking any money from a college can be expect to live under the thumb of the Coach. Sport funding is give every year and can be withdrawn at any time as the coach sees fit.

So, spend your money on getting good grades. Pick the school you want to get a education from and maybe play a sport.

Since this is a soccer forum I will only talk about soccer.

1. A coach can't take away any money already agreed to for one year at a time, usually in April for the following year.
2. The 1.1 years is not remotely close to D-1 soccer; most players of both sexes play unless they are injured for most all their years in college.
3. Good grades will get you academic money which is most often larger than athletic scholarships.
4. Percentage scholarships are typical. The older you are, the more valuable you should be to the team, and thus more money. Typically a progression of 20%, 40%, etc. as you get older. Few 100% scholarships.
5. Walk-ons don't happen in real programs.

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best of luck

I'm sure by now calls have gone out to the new academy roster. Best of luck boys! Once again.... if you didn't make the cut, don't lose hope. Keep on playing. There is a reason for whatever you go through... and you can still achieve your dreams. We've been there.

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I'm sure by now calls have gone out to the new academy roster. Best of luck boys! Once again.... if you didn't make the cut, don't lose hope. Keep on playing. There is a reason for whatever you go through... and you can still achieve your dreams. We've been there.

My daughter plays for Onyx and we are still waiting for the call. We could have won surf cup if the DA had not asked many of our best players to try out. This is so frustrating.

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Since this is a soccer forum I will only talk about soccer.

1. A coach can't take away any money already agreed to for one year at a time, usually in April for the following year.
2. The 1.1 years is not remotely close to D-1 soccer; most players of both sexes play unless they are injured for most all their years in college.
3. Good grades will get you academic money which is most often larger than athletic scholarships.
4. Percentage scholarships are typical. The older you are, the more valuable you should be to the team, and thus more money. Typically a progression of 20%, 40%, etc. as you get older. Few 100% scholarships.
5. Walk-ons don't happen in real programs.

I agree completely with everything except the last one. You'd be suprised how many kids walk on to Stanford UW etc. you may not hear or know about them because they don't travel sometimes with the team or the leave after one year. But it happens quite frequently.

I should point out that if you are in soccer to get college paid for in the pdx sw wa area.

You are in for a rude awakening.

90% of college athletes d2 and above especially d1 do not get the money you are thinking. 5-8k with 5-7k academic if you are GOOD

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Calls

Did anyone call Adam and tell him he is not coaching.

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I agree completely with everything except the last one. You'd be suprised how many kids walk on to Stanford UW etc. you may not hear or know about them because they don't travel sometimes with the team or the leave after one year. But it happens quite frequently.

I should point out that if you are in soccer to get college paid for in the pdx sw wa area.

You are in for a rude awakening.

90% of college athletes d2 and above especially d1 do not get the money you are thinking. 5-8k with 5-7k academic if you are GOOD

Wow, didn't know that! So....players like Erik h, Steve E, and Jaime V who received full rides...how did that happen?

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Wow, didn't know that! So....players like Erik h, Steve E, and Jaime V who received full rides...how did that happen?

They're part of the 10%.

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Wow, didn't know that! So....players like Erik h, Steve E, and Jaime V who received full rides...how did that happen?

It happened at the expense of the other guys on the team because they are really good and worth it. Most teams carry 25 or 26 players. They have 9.9 scholarships. A full ride takes a big bite out of the total.

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Scholarship

It happened at the expense of the other guys on the team because they are really good and worth it. Most teams carry 25 or 26 players. They have 9.9 scholarships. A full ride takes a big bite out of the total.

Erik h, Steve E, and Jaime V are more likely the 1-2%. Remember if you are really really good and have grade, those big programs are fighting for them. Also if they are on the financial need side, they will get move help. Just depends on how bad the D1 school wants them.

The 98-99% have to fight to get noticed and maybe get money.

D1 are carrying 31+ players at many programs. Don't know much about D2. D3 have a hard time with no scholarship money for sports.

NAIA and JC have few limits but may not have a ton of money. Just depends on the school.

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Erik h, Steve E, and Jaime V are more likely the 1-2%. Remember if you are really really good and have grade, those big programs are fighting for them. Also if they are on the financial need side, they will get move help. Just depends on how bad the D1 school wants them.

The 98-99% have to fight to get noticed and maybe get money.

D1 are carrying 31+ players at many programs. Don't know much about D2. D3 have a hard time with no scholarship money for sports.

NAIA and JC have few limits but may not have a ton of money. Just depends on the school.

A school that carries 31 has way too many players. That will result in lots of guys who will never play. D2 has only 9 scholarships so the money is even tighter than at D1.

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Soccer Money

A school that carries 31 has way too many players. That will result in lots of guys who will never play. D2 has only 9 scholarships so the money is even tighter than at D1.

Number of scholarships allowed versus funded is very different. D1 9.9 D2 9 NAIA 12. Many D1 and D2 schools are not fully funded, so they have less then the 9.9 and 9. Most NAIA schools don't even come close 12.

Most full rides are not 100% athletic but combine academic, athletic, and needs such as Pell Grants.

Here is some advice, look out for any school that rosters more than 20 players. Not really look out for but just know if you are roster spot 21 and up you are not being recruited to play soccer but to contribute pure tuition dollars. Think about it, 10 guys on the roster at a West Coast Conference school like Santa Clara paying full tuition through whatever means could be $500,000 in grants, loans etc. Those players will pay $2,000,000 into the school general fund over 4 years and only cost the school a Nike training top.

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Number of scholarships allowed versus funded is very different. D1 9.9 D2 9 NAIA 12. Many D1 and D2 schools are not fully funded, so they have less then the 9.9 and 9. Most NAIA schools don't even come close 12.

Most full rides are not 100% athletic but combine academic, athletic, and needs such as Pell Grants.

Here is some advice, look out for any school that rosters more than 20 players. Not really look out for but just know if you are roster spot 21 and up you are not being recruited to play soccer but to contribute pure tuition dollars. Think about it, 10 guys on the roster at a West Coast Conference school like Santa Clara paying full tuition through whatever means could be $500,000 in grants, loans etc. Those players will pay $2,000,000 into the school general fund over 4 years and only cost the school a Nike training top.

That is true. 9.9 and 9 are the fully funded max at D1 and D2. If you really want to play, go somewhere where you can play. If you want to go to the school anyway and can get a spot on the team then by all means go for it. The soccer stuff is secondary - you were going to go there anyway.

A 20 player roster is awfully small. 25 or 26 with a few of them being red shirts is more typical. Injuries are a big part of college soccer, as is getting players experience for next year.

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Examples of D1 Rosters Size

That is true. 9.9 and 9 are the fully funded max at D1 and D2. If you really want to play, go somewhere where you can play. If you want to go to the school anyway and can get a spot on the team then by all means go for it. The soccer stuff is secondary - you were going to go there anyway.

A 20 player roster is awfully small. 25 or 26 with a few of them being red shirts is more typical. Injuries are a big part of college soccer, as is getting players experience for next year.

Your scholarship count are only men. Women have it better at D1 with a 12, but you are right about fully funded is not alway the case at smaller D1 (if they have football or not make the different's because they have to fully fund a matching scholarships for women to men - title 9).

You can go count (used the http://pac-12.com). Just OSU as a example.

OSU Men - 30 http://www.osubeavers.com/SportSelec...B_OEM_ID=30800

OSU Women - 26 http://www.osubeavers.com/SportSelec...B_OEM_ID=30800

Here is PSU numbers. http://www.goviks.com/

PSU Women only 25.

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