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    I totally agree but would argue that most girls teams in OR & Couv don't develop players so much as rely on whatever talented athletes they have getting better by playing a lot. The more naturally talented players a particular team has usually leads to more wins. Then "win hungry" parents switch their naturally talented players to the more winning teams. True that bigger clubs with histories of their players getting into college or elite programs often benefit by that rep even when they didn't necessarily develop (but merely recruited) those top players. Until we as parents demand player development with our wallets, doubt things will change. The Ecnl clubs (like FC) may now benefit even more from players coming to their club for the opportunity to play ecnl - not necessarily because they develop players better adding more fuel to the fire.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      wait... you mean the mighty FC portland didn't win the tournament? but their parents are there only because they win everything... well at least they will win league since all the best teams are in OYSA for this age group.
      For now. By U14/15 it changes and all the best teams are NOT in OYSA. Just look at the OYSA HS girls age groups today. Brutal...

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        The sad thing is its clear they only get better from getting players from other teams. what happened to them being the better developers? They bragged all summer about taking 3 players form washington Timbers (one of the previous top 3 teams, and still may be a top 3 team) and now they need more top players to get better? Just seems kind of odd to me. Especially since they lost to that same Washington timbers team. Riight now in no specific order it seems CFC, Westside and Washington timbers are all the top 3 teams at the moment. (all TA teams for that matter) and it takes more players going to FC for them to crack that. Way to have confidence in your ability to develop talent.
        The sad thing is that those good athletes move to places like FCP and THUSC precisely because they know that they aren't being developed at their TA clubs. FCP and THUSC are more than happy to take the raw talent that wins games at U10/U11 and develop it into soccer players so that they are much better by HS than they ever would have been had they stayed at their original clubs.

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          For us the main reason we would move to thusc or fc from our ta club is the relationship those clubs have with colleges. And the track record. Our club is developing just fine. They just have little experience with sending kids to the next level.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            The sad thing is its clear they only get better from getting players from other teams. what happened to them being the better developers? They bragged all summer about taking 3 players form washington Timbers (one of the previous top 3 teams, and still may be a top 3 team) and now they need more top players to get better? Just seems kind of odd to me. Especially since they lost to that same Washington timbers team. Riight now in no specific order it seems CFC, Westside and Washington timbers are all the top 3 teams at the moment. (all TA teams for that matter) and it takes more players going to FC for them to crack that. Way to have confidence in your ability to develop talent.

            Oddly enough CFC and FC played last spring to a draw. With FC's new influx of talent it appears CFC came out stronger. Did CFC also get a new look?

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Oddly enough CFC and FC played last spring to a draw. With FC's new influx of talent it appears CFC came out stronger. Did CFC also get a new look?
              Nope no one new and were with out 3 key players this weekend.

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                Thusc maybe. Fc p no way. Fc p used to develop and now it's all a smoke and mirrors used car salesman recruiting from clubs who develop players. Fc p development is based around recruitment because you'll find the majority who have started and stayed are seriously lacking.

                Mediocre development and hard recruiting equals illusion of development for stupid parents.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Nope no one new and were with out 3 key players this weekend.
                  Not the "missing 3 key players" excuse again... Run whatcha brung or stay home.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Oddly enough CFC and FC played last spring to a draw. With FC's new influx of talent it appears CFC came out stronger. Did CFC also get a new look?
                    Way too early to tell. Wait until U14/15 and see who is stronger. Hint: it won't be CFC.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Not the "missing 3 key players" excuse again... Run whatcha brung or stay home.
                      I don't think it was an excuse since they won the game.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Way too early to tell. Wait until U14/15 and see who is stronger. Hint: it won't be CFC.
                        I wouldn't bet the farm on that.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          I wouldn't bet the farm on that.
                          History is pretty clear. The only good girls teams at HS ages are FCP, THUSC and LO. Always has been, always will be. Especially if the Thorns Academy survives (doubtful) and pulls out the few good players from the TA clubs each year.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            I wouldn't bet the farm on that.
                            I would. I don't have a dd at this age or in this age group. But I would bet the farm on it.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              I would. I don't have a dd at this age or in this age group. But I would bet the farm on it.
                              Good thing you don't own a farm. The times are a changing and ancient history really means nothing now.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Not the "missing 3 key players" excuse again... Run whatcha brung or stay home.
                                Thanks Cap'n Obvious.....

                                They did win.

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