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Are Thusc, Pdx & OSSA going to pick oysa/NPL on a team by team basis? At GU11 it looks like opl will only have #3 Thusc Emerald, #8 FC Pdx, #11 Crossfire Athletico, maybe #13 NEU, and #14 Crossfire Defeeters and then digging deep into Div1 teams.... Will the parents really be ok with that in the long run?

This is where it becomes interesting... I think NEU will choose OYSA based on the overall competitive level.

However, let me ask everyone this. At u11 is 9v9 better for development than 11v11 because OYSA spring league will be 9v9.

[Slow Xavi]

However, let me ask everyone this. At u11 is 9v9 better for development than 11v11 because OYSA spring league will be 9v9.

9v9! More touches, more opportunities for attacking football, harder for players to hid, and lessens bootball tendencies (I think).

Some argument that it is still too many at that age. I thought the DOCs and OPL got 11v11 dead wrong when they got things started.

Having said that, I have heard indirectly that OPL is looking closely at this issue as well - one good thing that may come out of the split is Oregon soccer revisiting numbers at this age.

Further reading on the subject - 2006 Scottish Study (with cites to previous analysis).

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This is where it becomes interesting... I think NEU will choose OYSA based on the overall competitive level.

However, let me ask everyone this. At u11 is 9v9 better for development than 11v11 because OYSA spring league will be 9v9.

Yes....one thing that PTFC will be bringing is a better development model than OPL....
Less players on the fields on the correct size fields creates more touches on the ball...it is a model used everywhere else but oregon.

U9/10 will be 7v7 now
U11/12 will be 9v9
U13 and up 11v11

I'm so happy for the change....you will see the benefits in about 5-7 years

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Yes....one thing that PTFC will be bringing is a better development model than OPL....
Less players on the fields on the correct size fields creates more touches on the ball...it is a model used everywhere else but oregon.

U9/10 will be 7v7 now
U11/12 will be 9v9
U13 and up 11v11

I'm so happy for the change....you will see the benefits in about 5-7 years

My DK plays in OPL and I really do wish they would do the same although he would be 11v11 for both groups next year. It is by far the correct thing to do for development.

[Slow Xavi]

Yes....one thing that PTFC will be bringing is a better development model than OPL....
it is a model used everywhere else but oregon.

U9/10 will be 7v7 now
U11/12 will be 9v9
U13 and up 11v11

I'm so happy for the change....you will see the benefits in about 5-7 years

Agree with you on the smaller numbers at younger ages . . . we shall see if PTFC delivers on bringing a better development model. Right now it is (good) marketing.

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Completely rediculous that Oregon hasn't switched to a different model. In Europe they play 7v7 until u12.

I guess that's what you get when opl is running soccer in Oregon. Numbers and money vs development and best practices.

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Agree with you on the smaller numbers at younger ages . . . we shall see if PTFC delivers on bringing a better development model. Right now it is (good) marketing.

this new system is in motion already and you will see it in the Spring...we are now condensing teams to make it work...kind of a nightmare but it is the right thing to do...our coach said to be patient through the changes...

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this new system is in motion already and you will see it in the Spring...we are now condensing teams to make it work...kind of a nightmare but it is the right thing to do...our coach said to be patient through the changes...

That is great. The logistics of this are hard and I think that is why the DOCs initially opted to go with 11 v 11 at that age . . .+ it was kind of their line in the sand with the OYSA when the OPL was started (along with travel and overall big club DOC influence on decisions), who was pushing for smaller numbers back then.

My point was that I think OYSA/PTFC are absolutely right on this issue but reserving judgment as to whether PTFC is a step forward for youth soccer, particularly at the younger ages (they should be a step forward for older elite boys).

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That is great. The logistics of this are hard and I think that is why the DOCs initially opted to go with 11 v 11 at that age . . .+ it was kind of their line in the sand with the OYSA when the OPL was started (along with travel and overall big club DOC influence on decisions), who was pushing for smaller numbers back then.

My point was that I think OYSA/PTFC are absolutely right on this issue but reserving judgment as to whether PTFC is a step forward for youth soccer, particularly at the younger ages (they should be a step forward for older elite boys).

Don't forget that 11 v 11 at the youngest of ages equates to higher revenue and more bottom line for the clubs. In all likelihood, this was the primary driver of the OPL rejecting fewer players.

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Yes....one thing that PTFC will be bringing is a better development model than OPL....
Less players on the fields on the correct size fields creates more touches on the ball...it is a model used everywhere else but oregon.

U9/10 will be 7v7 now
U11/12 will be 9v9
U13 and up 11v11

I'm so happy for the change....you will see the benefits in about 5-7 years

What about SoCal? They play 11v11 at U11 and seem to have the strongest teams on the west coast. I don't think you can say that just having fewer players on the field is necessarily better.

Having said that, I tend to agree that 9v9 at U11/12 is probably the right thing to do, as long as the field and goal sizes are adjusted as well. One of the differences with a smaller field is that there is less space/time for players to control the ball before an opponent is all over them. This is great for the advanced, agressive players but can be very frustrating for the less advanced, less agressive kids. And through / over the top balls into acres of open space just don't happen.

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How do you know 9v9 will start this Spring? Do you have a link to something stating that?

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where are you seeing the information that everyone is going 9v9 for spring?

From what I read when looking into the switch there were going to be a few test teams at 9v9 for spring and then fully implemented for fall.

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where are you seeing the information that everyone is going 9v9 for spring?

From what I read when looking into the switch there were going to be a few test teams at 9v9 for spring and then fully implemented for fall.

The switch isn't that big of a deal. The SW WA teams have been doing it for several years, playing 11v11 in the OPL fall and then 9v9 in the PML spring / WA State Cup. As long as your roster isn't above 14 players (limit for U11 in WA), all is good. As for formations, most of the top 9v9 teams will play 3-2-3, some 3-3-2.

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Don't forget that 11 v 11 at the youngest of ages equates to higher revenue and more bottom line for the clubs. In all likelihood, this was the primary driver of the OPL rejecting fewer players.

9v9 with the same number of kids equates to more teams, and therefore more coaching salaries / expenses. While the right thing to do developmentally, don't expect the cost to go down with the smaller teams.

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The switch isn't that big of a deal. The SW WA teams have been doing it for several years, playing 11v11 in the OPL fall and then 9v9 in the PML spring / WA State Cup. As long as your roster isn't above 14 players (limit for U11 in WA), all is good. As for formations, most of the top 9v9 teams will play 3-2-3, some 3-3-2.

I personally think 9v9 is a great thing and wish it would happen now. But I don't think it's happening this Spring is why I'm asking for a link to something stating it is?