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Agree game is ***C and TS. I watched and TS has a little edge with quicker ball movement. ***C has fast front line but, if TS is aware and play to watch for this then I think will end up TS 1-0 game.

I wont be surprised either way. I think those two are 50/50 depending on who plays better that day... Those 2 verse the rest is 8 out of 10 for those two, they have shown that all summer long.

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Sometimes it is not geneticis as coaching chemistry with players. Thats why players move teams and clubs. Be careful what you say about the pecking order. Soccer is just like a job, if your under appreciate/ not ackowledged, you go somewhere for growth opportunites and where contribution counts.

My opinion - it's your team that is unique. Most players who have desire to get better won't stay on a team or with a coach with a 5 year run histoy of same pecking order. That's like staying at a dead end job with no chance for promotion.

There is a player who left a team (not considered a star player) for a middle of road team and guess what, just heard made RTC. Sometimes not all about genetics, sometimes more circumstances.

This is laughable. Made RTC. Really, that's how you measure someone overcoming the pecking order. The poster you are replying to is right. Hard work, quality training, etc... all have an impact and are important. But, you cannot ignore genetics as the primary factor. If you think otherwise you probably believe in fairy tales too. And spare us the job analogy. It doesn't work.

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Not sure if you have read the articles on DEPRIVING young players of development by over encouraging possession and not encouraging 1 v 1's. Those articles are everywhere. The premise is that those kids that are encouraged to beat players off the dribble rather than just touch and move will gain an advantage as they are developing a different skillset early. Those individual skills are thought to be harder to teach than possession.

In any case, I really don't agree with you anyway. I don't particularly believe ET or THUSC are better at possession at all. They are fine. But not better. That's where I have a problem - you seem to want to believe so bad that your DD's team is somehow working on 'the more important' things and will somehow propel them to the top in a couple years. I think you are blinded by what you want to believe.

There's no such article.

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This is laughable. Made RTC. Really, that's how you measure someone overcoming the pecking order. The poster you are replying to is right. Hard work, quality training, etc... all have an impact and are important. But, you cannot ignore genetics as the primary factor. If you think otherwise you probably believe in fairy tales too. And spare us the job analogy. It doesn't work.

Good for the player. Sounds like some parent is upset. I find soccer more about "politics" at this age and parents "jocking for their DD's position" with coaches. I agree about genetics is factor. Unfortunately some genetically talented players get placed in poor positions or worse cause some parents are better at "sucking up" then others. I loved the job analogy. It's right on the money.

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This is laughable. Made RTC. Really, that's how you measure someone overcoming the pecking order. The poster you are replying to is right. Hard work, quality training, etc... all have an impact and are important. But, you cannot ignore genetics as the primary factor. If you think otherwise you probably believe in fairy tales too. And spare us the job analogy. It doesn't work.

You probably don't like change. Perhaps you DD pecking order will be distrubed. An good for the parent who switched her DD and made RTC. It showed DD had more in her then coach thought. If you get handed lemons then make lemonade.

It's good to believe in fairy tales. I think those who do change this world. 'I have a dream..." remember. I'm sure he was told his has a fairy tale too.

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Good for the player. Sounds like some parent is upset. I find soccer more about "politics" at this age and parents "jocking for their DD's position" with coaches. I agree about genetics is factor. Unfortunately some genetically talented players get placed in poor positions or worse cause some parents are better at "sucking up" then others. I loved the job analogy. It's right on the money.

Here is the thing, the "soccer moms" (and dad's) who can't stand to see little suzy earn her way, or work her way up are ruining it for those of us who can. It's a sad sad situation when other parents are coming to me telling me my daughter got screwed on playing time because so and so went to the coach on playing time. I shouldn't have to whine, complain, ass kiss to get my kid the playing time she deserves. (and no it's not just me that thinks she deserves it it's other parents)

Why do coaches have no balls to stand up and say this is what I am paid to do, and if you don't like it go some where else? Why doesn't the DOC stand up to crazy parent and say I hired coach, I trust coach, leave if you don't like it. Is there a club like that? Cause I sure am not seeing that where I am at.

This is exactly what is happening at our club, mom goes and complains, first the coach, then she was told to stop, then the DOC, gets some leeway so now she runs with it, if her DD who is tiny and weak and plays a lot better when mom is not watching the game, doesn't start the game, doesn't get to play a majority of the game, she freaks! Why is that ok?

who will take a stand and stop this? Let the coaches coach!

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Good for the player. Sounds like some parent is upset. I find soccer more about "politics" at this age and parents "jocking for their DD's position" with coaches. I agree about genetics is factor. Unfortunately some genetically talented players get placed in poor positions or worse cause some parents are better at "sucking up" then others. I loved the job analogy. It's right on the money.

This is laughable to. The old "it's about politics" line. True talent rises. I hope that's not what you tell your kid.

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RTC, for those who don't know, is NOT that difficult to make. I've seen some really mediocre players make RTC. So for anyone who thinks that making RTC is a vindication, then you really have not experienced RTC.

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Westside TS 3 ***C 0

Overall a good game. I would say 2 of the goals were on the keeper, so it was much closer than the score shows. Westside TS was the better team in the first half, ***C was slightly better second half, creating many good chances. Overall a pretty enjoyable game to watch that was up tempo.

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Who won vfc vs Copa game?

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Westside TS 3 ***C 0

Overall a good game. I would say 2 of the goals were on the keeper, so it was much closer than the score shows. Westside TS was the better team in the first half, ***C was slightly better second half, creating many good chances. Overall a pretty enjoyable game to watch that was up tempo.

I don't think I was watching the same game as you. TS clearly was stronger team both halfs of the game. They moved/passed the ball between players very well. Would have been 4 to 0 except a bad off sides call. They just are moving the ball much better/quicker and play more possession type ball.

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I don't think I was watching the same game as you. TS clearly was stronger team both halfs of the game. They moved/passed the ball between players very well. Would have been 4 to 0 except a bad off sides call. They just are moving the ball much better/quicker and play more possession type ball.

Hhahahahahahahahhaah

There is no way you could call that a possession type team or game. There were more boot balls then wst parents screaming for it which is usual.

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Here is the thing, the "soccer moms" (and dad's) who can't stand to see little suzy earn her way, or work her way up are ruining it for those of us who can. It's a sad sad situation when other parents are coming to me telling me my daughter got screwed on playing time because so and so went to the coach on playing time. I shouldn't have to whine, complain, ass kiss to get my kid the playing time she deserves. (and no it's not just me that thinks she deserves it it's other parents)

Why do coaches have no balls to stand up and say this is what I am paid to do, and if you don't like it go some where else? Why doesn't the DOC stand up to crazy parent and say I hired coach, I trust coach, leave if you don't like it. Is there a club like that? Cause I sure am not seeing that where I am at.

This is exactly what is happening at our club, mom goes and complains, first the coach, then she was told to stop, then the DOC, gets some leeway so now she runs with it, if her DD who is tiny and weak and plays a lot better when mom is not watching the game, doesn't start the game, doesn't get to play a majority of the game, she freaks! Why is that ok?

who will take a stand and stop this? Let the coaches coach!

Post her name.

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Hhahahahahahahahhaah

There is no way you could call that a possession type team or game. There were more boot balls then wst parents screaming for it which is usual.

If you know possession style soccer and watch both teams WTS was able to connect more passes, had the back line involved (not just passing forward). Must be doing something as last three times played WTS has beaten ***C. I would no longer saying 50/50 if they meet up again.

Is not really a question if the players are good enough to play possession soccer as all the ***C girls seemed to have good skills like TS but, I think it's more about if club and coach good enough to teach it.

That is why after a few years you see clubs like WTS, Thusc, Portland FC always end of having the dominate girls teams at older levels.

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If you know possession style soccer and watch both teams WTS was able to connect more passes, had the back line involved (not just passing forward). Must be doing something as last three times played WTS has beaten ***C. I would no longer saying 50/50 if they meet up again.

Is not really a question if the players are good enough to play possession soccer as all the ***C girls seemed to have good skills like TS but, I think it's more about if club and coach good enough to teach it.

That is why after a few years you see clubs like WTS, Thusc, Portland FC always end of having the dominate girls teams at older levels.

You are about as wrong as wrong can be. Rethink this after your kid is u13.

I would say that possession oriented teams at u11 is probably the worst indicator of coaching as one coach is trying to make the finished product while the other is focusing on the individual player to prepare for a tactical progression shift by u14. Is there any wonder why the best academy in the world Ajax from holland focuses 80% on the technical side and small sided components until u13 where players are more capable of understanding more than 2-3 players in their game during and away from the play.

It's very much like telling students at 10 years old to do things in 11 student groups instead of teaching the kids to be strong individually. What you get is few succeeding, many compartmentalized, and another group failing.

I'm sure that means little to you as you are only at the point where you think clubs like thusc and fc actually develop the players they have at u17.