Originally posted by Unregistered
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It's relevant. In nine months decisions will be made and lessons can be learned from the 01's. -
The lesson that needs to be learned is this: Regardless of what the other parents/kids on your DD's team say to your face, many of them are seriously considering moving to an ECNL club next spring, if not before. FC saw a huge influx of very good players this past spring and the same will happen again next spring. Every team in the Portland metro area will lose multiple players to ECNL, whether you want to believe it or not. It will happen. You can participate in ECNL, or you can stay at your current club and play in a league that, while having several competitive teams, will be at a level that is a notch lower than it is today.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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If they are starters on the TA teams then how can they be filler on an ECNL team? Do you know what filler is?Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
I would explain it like this: Look at Crossfire Premier out of Seattle. They typically have a pool of 25+ kids at each age level. Their more successful teams had a minimum of 18 D1 committed athletes. To me " filler" is a player that could not make a pool for Crossfire Premier. Guarantee you there are players on the Oregon ECNL teams that would not have made the ODP pools in the past and certainly would not have landed as a starter on the A team.
Everyone else is filler. Some of the filler may be highly skilled but lacking athleticism needed to out perform at the higher levels. Others may be very fast but lack skill. Filler doesn't mean they are bad kids or unworthy of play somewhere it simply means they are NOT elite and only playing in the league because a minimum number of players is needed and without them they cannot field a team.
Having said that, I guarantee you that much of the filler would be replaced if some of the higher level TA girls decided they wanted to play on an ECNL team. Truth be told some parents are more grounded than others and actually understand when little Suzy is not even the star of an average good team so they choose not to endure the expense and inconvenience of playing as filler on an ECNL team. Other less grounded parents come on to sites like this and ramble on about how much better their kid's team, club, league is.
The parents of the highest level players are disappointed and wish that Oregon would consolidate so that their child could play much closer to their potential.Comment
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The encl has been a disaster at many older age levels. It's going to get worse if they don't improve the coaching.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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You think it is a coaching issue. All I can do is shake my head. People like you don't get that you can't really create aptitude or talent. You can enhance it through coaching but if it isn't there under the surface then the best coaches in the land can't create it.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Two ECNL clubs in Oregon is One too many.Comment
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at the older ages, having three (Thorns Academy) by your premise, is two to many and completely asinine.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Comparing X-fire Premier and Oregon ECNL is currently like comparing apples to oranges. But they also have about a five / six year head start. Are the local ECNL teams in the top ten in the nation? of course not. However, at many age groups they did as well or better then expected. Having 'Filler' is a chance for those girls to strive to be better. They will be playing with some of the best players in the state and other 'filler' players that are coming from the local ecnl teams or other 'premier' level teams that may not be D1 material but are still some of the better players in the area. It's consolidation. It's what Oregon t/S has been clamoring about for years. It's here and yet people still bitch. Time to move on. Get on board or wallow in what's left.Comment
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The full time ECNL marketers will be here for the next year selling their product. Like time share salesmen in the cabo airport.Comment
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If you break it down its probably only $1,000 per monthComment
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Those that move up from 'B' teams to 'premier' level teams will also have an opportunity to shine, get better and improve. ECNL might now be for your kid and it's a good option for those interested and overall, will improve Oregon Soccer.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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B team girls who have promise can get everthing they need from truly premier teams. Top talent cannot get what they need currently in the state of Oregon. Oregon has totally abandoned its most talented. It is a huge step backwards and so I complain as we try to find other options. Seattle is looking good.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Why won't they tell us how much parent travel is???? What are they hiding??Comment
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If the total cost is $10,000 for the kid, $7000 is for travel. So assume that or more for parent travel. If you assume $10,000 + $7000 that includes parent travel.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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You are wasting your time on this board. People are happy calling themselves elite and only marketing ECNL to top level players would relegate 60% of the current Oregon ECNL players back to Premier teams. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube once it is out on the counter. The best you can hope for is the next big thing... and there will be one.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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