OYSA state cup schedules

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Sad thing is the rec team would have the same won loss record as the top teams...just lose by more. If you look back, winning at regionals was never an Oregon strong point.

"If you look back, winning at regionals was never an Oregon strong point."

Winning at regionals for any team, any state, is quite an accomplishment. So identifying a regional championship as a strong point is rare indeed for most states. After all, fourteen areas are represented in USYSA Region IV. Not all areas choose to compete at regionals. Placing in semifinals through finals is a major achievement. Prior to switching over to US CLub Soccer State Cup, Regionals, and Nationals, Oregon clubs have shown upward movement in finishing at Regionals. Yes, this means Westside, THUSC, FC Eastside, as well as former now-defunct clubs, have all done well at regionals. So to say that Oregon winning at regionals was never a strong point is incorrect. Never is too harsh and invalidates all that Oregon teams have accomplished over time. Patience and going for the best results is the strong point and what youth competitive soccer is all about.

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Sad thing is the rec team would have the same win loss record as the top teams...just lose by more. If you look back, winning at regionals was never an Oregon strong point.

Both at USYSA and US Club. What exactly is your point ?

Has any team ever made it to the finals of the US Club nationals ? As "un-represented" as this tourney is, Oregon still sends it's "less then the best" teams and they get killed.

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But our DOC's are paid like they do

Both at USYSA and US Club. What exactly is your point ?

Has any team ever made it to the finals of the US Club nationals ? As "un-represented" as this tourney is, Oregon still sends it's "less then the best" teams and they get killed.

Looking at the compensation of several of the OPL DOC's you would think they were getting to Nationals in either organization every year and placing their stars at the top colleges all over the country.

The reason we don't compete well at this point is the severe dilution of talent in both sexes which will never end until there is an organizing body to take the control away from the DOC's. If OYSA's employees were elected/selected by the club boards then we might have a prayer of ending the gravy train that is Oregon Club soccer.

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Looking at the compensation of several of the OPL DOC's you would think they were getting to Nationals in either organization every year and placing their stars at the top colleges all over the country.

The reason we don't compete well at this point is the severe dilution of talent in both sexes which will never end until there is an organizing body to take the control away from the DOC's. If OYSA's employees were elected/selected by the club boards then we might have a prayer of ending the gravy train that is Oregon Club soccer.

Do DOC's really make outrageous salaries in Oregon? Our club's DOC gets a base salary and has to earn everything else by coaching multiple teams, running camps and tournaments, finding sponsors etc. He has no benefits, buys his own health insurance etc. Aren't the DOC compensation levels set by the club's board? How would putting these people in charge of OYSA's employees improve Oregon club soccer? Confused.

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Do DOC's really make outrageous salaries in Oregon? Our club's DOC gets a base salary and has to earn everything else by coaching multiple teams, running camps and tournaments, finding sponsors etc. He has no benefits, buys his own health insurance etc. Aren't the DOC compensation levels set by the club's board? How would putting these people in charge of OYSA's employees improve Oregon club soccer? Confused.

You are correct. Most DOCs work really hard.

People who complain have no idea what they are talking about or how great of deal they are getting. Couches outside of Oregon make 2 to 3 times more than coaches in Oregon. Fees are often 2 to 3 times more in other states.

Think about how much time coaches spend with your child's team throughout the year. Calculate how much you pay that coach per hour. Think about it before you complain.

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That must be just your kids. Our team is fully paid for. BUMMER for you.

No, all teams are fully paid for. We got the Hyatt on Waikiki and a $200 per day per diem for room service. Plus, since my kid is a standout, they are comping my booze while I am there.

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Evidence?

Do you have evidence that DOCs outside of Oregon make 2-3x what our DoCs make?

There are DOCs here making close to $100k. They do work hard. Can they make $200k elsewhere? Where?What club? Do they have to produce championships, national team players? How do we judge DOCs? Is there a way to rank them?

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Do DOC's really make outrageous salaries in Oregon? Our club's DOC gets a base salary and has to earn everything else by coaching multiple teams, running camps and tournaments, finding sponsors etc. He has no benefits, buys his own health insurance etc. Aren't the DOC compensation levels set by the club's board? How would putting these people in charge of OYSA's employees improve Oregon club soccer? Confused.

First most DOC's are not paid 6 figures but there are at least 3 in the Metro area and Oswego pays two 6 figures. But hey that's Chump Change around Lake Ego so no big deal!

To clear up your confusion about my suggestion for reforming Oregon soccer: We have to put the DOC's back on the pitch coaching coaches and coaching kids and get them out of the administration of and controlling how the leagues are run. In the process we need to make the governing body more responsive to us the consumer and more transparent to all members. To do that the Executive Director needs to be appointed by a Board of Directors selected and voted on by the member clubs. The problem with OYSA was/is that they were/are not accountable to the clubs which forced the OPC DOC's to address the obvious short comings in how competitive soccer was being administered. However nothing meaningful has changed other than we are now sending our better teams to US Club vs. USYS.

OYSA's recent offer to turn competitive soccer over to the OPC won't change anything either as the DOC's will still be calling the shots with their conflicts of interest too great to allow any significant change like forcing consolidation at the higher age groups and replacing ODP with regional ECNL teams on the girls side.

No DOC's is going to be willing to give up talent and $'s for the good of the player because their ego's, which got them the job in the first place, are going to get in the way so us parents have to take their ability to continue to be the road block away by reformatting the structure of Oregon soccer.

I hope this clear up any confusion.

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Coaches not DOC's

Do you have evidence that DOCs outside of Oregon make 2-3x what our DoCs make?

There are DOCs here making close to $100k. They do work hard. Can they make $200k elsewhere? Where?What club? Do they have to produce championships, national team players? How do we judge DOCs? Is there a way to rank them?

Our top DOC's compensation is very close to their counter parts in Cali and WA but not double. The top coaches salaries in WA are based upon each team and run on average about $7,000 per team which is NOT double what we pay our better Premier head coaches. I DK exactly what the Cali coaches get per team but have been "told" its very similar to what WA coaches get.

Depending upon which club you belong to the club fees could be double running around $2,400 plus kits but for that extra money you get a professional organization with paid staff that takes the load off the team manager by helping with tournament entry's and travel arrangements.

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Do you have evidence that DOCs outside of Oregon make 2-3x what our DoCs make?

There are DOCs here making close to $100k. They do work hard. Can they make $200k elsewhere? Where?What club? Do they have to produce championships, national team players? How do we judge DOCs? Is there a way to rank them?

$85K is average....here at VTimbers they make $60K

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Boys Schedules are up

It looks like the schedule for the boys is up 13 total teams U11 to U17 with no teams at U13 and U16. Is that are there is? Girls not up yet.

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It looks like the schedule for the boys is up 13 total teams U11 to U17 with no teams at U13 and U16. Is that are there is? Girls not up yet.

Clearly not

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Funny

OSA state is the only state cup. Good luck to only 13 teams with the guts to play

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OSA state is the only state cup. Good luck to only 13 teams with the guts to play

Is that boys and girls from U11 to U18?

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Is that boys and girls from U11 to U18?

Just boys through all age groups; U11-U18, 13 teams total. Girls schedules not up yet.