Gloves off! OYSA just approved taking players from other Clubs!

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This practice has been a long standing tradition within the OYSA.

This is not something new.

BM formed entire club off this method.

This is not something new.

BM formed entire club off this method.[/QUOTE]

Bridge City built off of plundering THUSC

NW Elite hosted January tryouts for the younger "pre-ecnl" ages. These were made public and open to all.

NW ElitE bringing full intact teams over, with coach, from other clubs.

OPFC rebuilt a couple age groups on the boys side using TA coach/scout.

The list goes on.

OYSA is an absolute mess. Integrity in clubs is an all time low.

This is no longer about kids. It's about money and egos.

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Integrity is low. Nailed it.

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So where is the line to you, out of curiosity? I would 100% agree that there are some practices that just have no integrity. For example holding tryouts mid season, when no one else can/will is across that line to me. OYSA used to have a rule that if a team left a club their coach couldn't coach them the next year, so thats another one I think crosses the line. But a player who feels they are not at the right spot who wants to leave mid season, should be able to. We don't own the players. A coach going up to a game though and seeing a good player and pitching to that player they should leave is over the line, however a player who is looking for a new team who will fit them better and contacts a coach is not crossing the line to me. Not sure if I have a different opinion than most, or if most agree with me.

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So where is the line to you, out of curiosity? I would 100% agree that there are some practices that just have no integrity. For example holding tryouts mid season, when no one else can/will is across that line to me. OYSA used to have a rule that if a team left a club their coach couldn't coach them the next year, so thats another one I think crosses the line. But a player who feels they are not at the right spot who wants to leave mid season, should be able to. We don't own the players. A coach going up to a game though and seeing a good player and pitching to that player they should leave is over the line, however a player who is looking for a new team who will fit them better and contacts a coach is not crossing the line to me. Not sure if I have a different opinion than most, or if most agree with me.

The thing is it has become a fairly significant and almost legitimate income source for those in the positions of power at the big clubs. The reason I say “almost legitimate” is because there are still scheisters like Alex and Brian that skim on the side with privates and play favorites to those that do and don’t really care to keep the best players. the clubs no longer really care about developing the kids- just need to win enough to fool the masses and keep kids that develop and keep relationships so they maximize the number of players in the jerseys. Don’t fool yourself none of them really care about your kid once you are not paying them any longer or if you ever hold them accountable

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The thing is it has become a fairly significant and almost legitimate income source for those in the positions of power at the big clubs. The reason I say “almost legitimate” is because there are still scheisters like Alex and Brian that skim on the side with privates and play favorites to those that do and don’t really care to keep the best players. the clubs no longer really care about developing the kids- just need to win enough to fool the masses and keep kids that develop and keep relationships so they maximize the number of players in the jerseys. Don’t fool yourself none of them really care about your kid once you are not paying them any longer or if you ever hold them accountable

This is the key issue here. There is no incentive for clubs to develop players or care about coaching - its easier and more profitable to promote, recruit, and accumulate players. As a coach at one of the "big clubs", I can assure you that there is no effort being put into actual coaching education or player development by any of these clubs. And its hard to blame them with the way the system rewards them for what they do. If we are relying on individuals to "do the right thing" then there is a far bigger systemic issue at play.

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How to get rich running a "Non-Profit" Soccer Club:

Step 1: Get a coaching Job at X Club (or skip to step 2)
Step 2: Become trusted person in said club and possibly a DOC or ED
Step 2.5: (optional) Skim money from club camps and tech trainings to fund lifestyle, and/or new club development.
Step 3: Break contract and send emails to membership base of X Club about the new club you are starting, get other disgruntled coaches on board. Cite developmental differences with "club leadership" and board members as reason.
Step 4: Move the teams and coaches to your new club.
Step 5: Profit?

It's almost too easy.

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How to get rich running a "Non-Profit" Soccer Club:

Step 1: Get a coaching Job at X Club (or skip to step 2)
Step 2: Become trusted person in said club and possibly a DOC or ED
Step 2.5: (optional) Skim money from club camps and tech trainings to fund lifestyle, and/or new club development.
Step 3: Break contract and send emails to membership base of X Club about the new club you are starting, get other disgruntled coaches on board. Cite developmental differences with "club leadership" and board members as reason.
Step 4: Move the teams and coaches to your new club.
Step 5: Profit?

It's almost too easy.

I love it. This sounds like the Bend Timbers and Apex. This happens all the time in the real business world. Lesson is to treat your employees right, because there is a low barrier to enterence into the soccer world. Reap the world wind, REAP IT !

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How to get rich running a "Non-Profit" Soccer Club:

Step 1: Get a coaching Job at X Club (or skip to step 2)
Step 2: Become trusted person in said club and possibly a DOC or ED
Step 2.5: (optional) Skim money from club camps and tech trainings to fund lifestyle, and/or new club development.
Step 3: Break contract and send emails to membership base of X Club about the new club you are starting, get other disgruntled coaches on board. Cite developmental differences with "club leadership" and board members as reason.
Step 4: Move the teams and coaches to your new club.
Step 5: Profit?

It's almost too easy.

Step 3.5: download a copy of the former club's server, and then delete documents before walking out the door.

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This is the key issue here. There is no incentive for clubs to develop players or care about coaching - its easier and more profitable to promote, recruit, and accumulate players. As a coach at one of the "big clubs", I can assure you that there is no effort being put into actual coaching education or player development by any of these clubs. And its hard to blame them with the way the system rewards them for what they do. If we are relying on individuals to "do the right thing" then there is a far bigger systemic issue at play.

So here's the issue I see with this, 95% of coaches out there (even at the big clubs) its not their main job. Also, at least in the clubs I'm familiar with, no coaches get paid based on how many players they have on their team. Whether they have 14 or 18 their payment is the same. So to say coaches only care about recruiting players in for financial gains, is a pretty unfair statement. Now would they recruit kids in to strengthen their team, because coaches want to win, yes for sure I can see that. I do think the majority of coaches out there do want to develop kids and do right by them. Now whether they are a good coach or not is a whole different debate.

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Step 3.5: download a copy of the former club's server, and then delete documents before walking out the door.

As some that recycles I support this, its better then printing it on paper. Save a tree and screw over Bend Timbers, REAP IT

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I love it. This sounds like the Bend Timbers and Apex.

Or bridge city. This is not a club built on itegrity, but out of hurt. It will collaps as fast as it started.

Apex, oufc, bridge city, sca, etc. They are all built for their directors, not for the kids.

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Or bridge city. This is not a club built on itegrity, but out of hurt. It will collaps as fast as it started.

Apex, oufc, bridge city, sca, etc. They are all built for their directors, not for the kids.

And beside Bridge City they are all doing fine

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No one likes bend fc and their board are a bunch of corrupt parents who try to leverage their kids teams.

im happy to see them fall.

bridge city is a joke. It’s what happens when you have an entire club built off of what things look like rather than what they can provide.

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And beside Bridge City they are all doing fine

Oufc is also a joke

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OUFC is a joke for sure. Sorry I did forget that club. The M.J. last resort