ECNL Local Club Results 2021 / 2022

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I came here for the excuses on why the thorns have always been garbage the older you get.

Blame it on the DA league they tried to sell everyone or the pathway to thorns first team which evidently didn’t help anyone. Hilarious people supposedly left because of HS soccer.

instead you should actually list the real reasons why thorns are garbage the older you get.

- crap coaching
- BS they get sold on never actually pans out.
- they were incredibly mismanaged. Why do you think the actual thorns stopped wanting to manage them? Why do you think West side told them they didn’t want to manage them anymore?
- Terrible teams.
- no trust from families

This “let’s move forward” has been the thorns motto for 5 years and every year they come out with older teams that can’t field 11 players at training let alone win a game.

Face it, you all are a joke and one bad recruitment year away from being the next fc Portland.

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I came here for the excuses on why the thorns have always been garbage the older you get.

Blame it on the DA league they tried to sell everyone or the pathway to thorns first team which evidently didn’t help anyone. Hilarious people supposedly left because of HS soccer.

instead you should actually list the real reasons why thorns are garbage the older you get.

- crap coaching
- BS they get sold on never actually pans out.
- they were incredibly mismanaged. Why do you think the actual thorns stopped wanting to manage them? Why do you think West side told them they didn’t want to manage them anymore?
- Terrible teams.
- no trust from families

This “let’s move forward” has been the thorns motto for 5 years and every year they come out with older teams that can’t field 11 players at training let alone win a game.

Face it, you all are a joke and one bad recruitment year away from being the next fc Portland.

I am happy you have found a better place for your kid. And while I cannot and will not counter your experience with the younger Thorns team your kid was on, please, stop talking about teams that your kids do not/did not play for like you know first hand. While I personally know Thorns kids that remain on the younger teams (09s-10s) and seem happy, this fact neither validates or invalidates your bad experience. Nor does talking to a few parents of younger players make me an expert on those teams, so I won’t.

As for our experience with the 07s-05s, which you clearly do not have a child on these teams, I will speak to what I know:

1. The 05/04 2023 graduates combined team had to make cuts at tryouts this year with nearly 40 players trying out for this team. The team has commits to NCAA Div 1 RPI ranked #40 Grand Canyon, #50 Gonzaga x2 players, #109 University of Portland #130 Boston University #136 University of Montana and those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head and I did NOT include any FC Portland or other club D1 commits that are joining the Thorns this year. The commits I mention are at least in some part or large part Thorns developed players. And the 2024 graduates were contacted today. I am aware of at least 5 players that were contacted by Top 50 ranked teams (out of 336 or so) players and many others by Top 100. And this is just Day 1 of contact for this age group. Oh and the 2024s have a full roster for next season, no “leaving” in large numbers as you are suggesting. I am aware of two NW Elite 2024s that left NW Elite this year for the Thorns. I know of one Thorns 2024 player that left for NW Elite. Not much changing around here.
2. Coaches. Crap coaching usually does not produce these results. If you go by licenses, they have 2 A, 1 B, 1 C that I am aware of, not bad. At ANY TIME players/parents can be dissatisfied with a coach. It is a personal decision.
3. Thorns need a non-profit partner to access field rentals in Oregon due to some archaic laws. Hence after YEAR 1 they partnered with Westside. There were not some “years” of mismanagement. Nice try. Then recently, 4+ years later Westside was not managing the Thorns in the way they wanted and the Thorns ended their partnership with Westside, not the other way around.
4. Terrible teams? Hardly. Neck and neck or beating NW Elite. Finishing top half of age groups in league play.

Please take your generalizations about the entire Thorns Academy teams based on your experience and just be done. You had a really bad, no good, awful experience. Got it. This is not true for most current families and players (or they would have left) enjoying their Thorns Academy experience. No one should brush away your experience, but do not do that in return to ours.

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1. Yawn, no different than anyone else and it’s pretty funny to consider westside likely outcommitted thorns in the past 5 years. All that time to sit the bench at some random school and paying nearly everything. Not impressed. 2024s? Hahahah you mean the team that had to replace its one year coach for a lack luster director who wanted the team back? Yeah,,, again not impressed.

2. Remind me what the licenses for the coaches that coached the 03 and 04 team? A and they sucked. If that is your basis for a good coach you are already lost.

3. Blah blah blah more excuses

4. Hahahah your basis for being good is measuring to NWE? Hahahahahahaha thorns teams wouldn’t even beat the best OYSA teams in most ages. Why they are scared to play anyone. Also you cite fc Portland kids??

typical thorns, claiming other clubs developed kids for their own development.



I can for excuses of why the thorns are a joke, and I got them.

keep saying, there is always next year and watch you justify your teams crumbling.


100$ 05s don’t make it through the year without not having enough to go to a tournament.

100$ 06s get 3-4 commits and everyone else is mediocre.


you sound desperate. Probably why thorns can’t be more than 4th place in a weak ECNL conference.

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1. Yawn, no different than anyone else and it’s pretty funny to consider westside likely outcommitted thorns in the past 5 years. All that time to sit the bench at some random school and paying nearly everything. Not impressed. 2024s? Hahahah you mean the team that had to replace its one year coach for a lack luster director who wanted the team back? Yeah,,, again not impressed.

2. Remind me what the licenses for the coaches that coached the 03 and 04 team? A and they sucked. If that is your basis for a good coach you are already lost.

3. Blah blah blah more excuses

4. Hahahah your basis for being good is measuring to NWE? Hahahahahahaha thorns teams wouldn’t even beat the best OYSA teams in most ages. Why they are scared to play anyone. Also you cite fc Portland kids??

typical thorns, claiming other clubs developed kids for their own development.



I can for excuses of why the thorns are a joke, and I got them.

keep saying, there is always next year and watch you justify your teams crumbling.


100$ 05s don’t make it through the year without not having enough to go to a tournament.

100$ 06s get 3-4 commits and everyone else is mediocre.


you sound desperate. Probably why thorns can’t be more than 4th place in a weak ECNL conference.

Oregon state teams don’t fair as well as you think against ECNL competition. My daughter is on Thorns and there has been some crossover games this spring. Mostly with Thorns playing their younger team against state teams.

07 UPDX lost to Thorns 08 0-1
06 UPDX lost to Thorns 06 0-3
06 Eastside lost to Thorns 07 0-3
03/04 Eastside lost to Thorns 05 2-12

I’m fairly certain each of those OYSA teams is preparing for Regionals…

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1. Yawn, no different than anyone else and it’s pretty funny to consider westside likely outcommitted thorns in the past 5 years. All that time to sit the bench at some random school and paying nearly everything. Not impressed. 2024s? Hahahah you mean the team that had to replace its one year coach for a lack luster director who wanted the team back? Yeah,,, again not impressed. STOP. I LISTED CLEAR EVIDENCE OF THORNS COMMITS FOR THIS RECENT YEAR. LIST COMPARABLE 2023 COMMITS FOR 2023 WESTSIDE PLAYERS PLEASE. AS MENTIONED IN PRIOR POST, PREVIOUS OLDER THORNS TEAMS ARE NO LONGER THE CONVERSATION HERE. DA AFFECTED TEAMS ARE CYCLING THROUGH AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WITH THE QUALITY OF THE THORNS 2023 RECRUITS.

2. Remind me what the licenses for the coaches that coached the 03 and 04 team? A and they sucked. If that is your basis for a good coach you are already lost. NEVER SAID LICENSING MEANS MUCH, JUST LISTED FACTS. YOU ARE LISTING OPINIONS “SUCK” etc. NO WAY TO PROVE THOSE. AND MANY, AS IN 6 TEAMS WORTH OF PARENTS/PLAYERS FOR 2022-2023, HAVE CHOSEN THORNS TEAMS AND THORNS COACHES FOR NEXT SEASON. NOT EVERYONE AGREES WITH YOU. FACT.

3. Blah blah blah more excuses. THAT IS THE BEST YOU GOT?

4. Hahahah your basis for being good is measuring to NWE? Hahahahahahaha thorns teams wouldn’t even beat the best OYSA teams in most ages. Why they are scared to play anyone. Also you cite fc Portland kids?? NW ELITE HAS SOME TOP RECRUITS. THORNS TEAMS RECENTLY PLAYED EASTSIDE TIMBERS AND ALL THORNS TEAMS WON. 5-1, 8-2 TYPE WINS. MOST THORNS OR NW ELITE TEAMS WILL BEAT ALL OYSA TEAMS AT THIS POINT. THORNS ALSO BEAT GAL OLY REIGN TEAMS THIS YEAR BY A LOT. FOR SOME AGES THORNS TEAMS MAY BE CHALLENGED BY GAL WA TIMBERS TEAMS. WA TIMBERS SHOULD SCRIMMAGE THORNS, BUT I DOUBT THEY WANT TO. THIS IS NOT A THORNS ISSUE.

typical thorns, claiming other clubs developed kids for their own development. ALL COMMITS LISTED WERE IN THE THORNS PROGRAM FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS, MANY FOR 3-5 YEARS. AGAIN, YOU EITHER DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT OR YOU ARE PURPOSELY SPREADING MISINFORMATION.

I can for excuses of why the thorns are a joke, and I got them.

keep saying, there is always next year and watch you justify your teams crumbling. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE STILL SAYING “THERE IS ALWAYS NEXT YEAR”.


100$ 05s don’t make it through the year without not having enough to go to a tournament. SENIOR YEAR IS HARD ON ALL CLUB TEAMS WITH GRADUATION, TEST TAKING, PROMS, TRAINING SOMETIMES IN SPRING WITH YOUR COLLEGE TEAM, BUT WITH A ROSTER OF 22, PLUs TRAINING PLAYERS, THE THORNS HAVE AS GOOD A SHOT AS ANY CLUB OF HAVING FULL ROSTERS AT TIS FINAL HSAGE.

100$ 06s AKA 2024s get 3-4 commits and everyone else is mediocre. THIS IS WILDLY NOT TRUE. THERE WILL BE AT LEAST 10 D1 COMMITS PROBABLY MORE FOR THE 2024 THORNS GRADUATES (FALL 2005 Birthdays and 2006s).

you sound desperate. KETTLE BLACK Probably why thorns can’t be more than 4th place in a weak OPINION NOT ACCURATE ECNL conference. AND YOU ARE BACK TO NOT QUOTING FACTS. 06s FINISHED FOURTH. DID YOU EVEN LOOK? 05s FINISHED SECOND. /QUOTE]

I AM SURE YOU WILL RESPOND WITH MORE OPINIONS.

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Lol please don’t talk about older thorns teams that we screwed up and sold the same BS we are doing now. Just ignore that and assume we are doing a better job.

- please assume that all our teams now are good and not going to be like the rest of our older teams. But don’t look at the fact we had to recruit these kids in because fc Portland died in a league that was supposedly elite…

- 6 teams worth of parents and players chose the thorns so that’s that….. so did soccer chance. You can always find gullible people. It does make sense why they tend to leave.

- older ages are hard blah blah blah. More excuses and more reasons to laugh at you for trying to cover up.

- 10 D1 on 05? Don’t worry we’ll wait. The reality will be 3-4 that find a good school. 1-2 that walk on and quit. And meanwhile everyone goes to the same places everyone else goes.

yawn, don’t accuse someone of purposely spreading misinformation when you are the pot calling the kettle black. You sound desperate to cover your propaganda and assumptions of what you think is going to happen. How many stretches and assumptions do you write in your defense of something that hasn’t shown to be good at all the past couple of years? recruiting fc Portland’s kids to save yourself doesn’t justify the lack of development, BS propaganda, and excuses that come out of your club.

Let’s take a poll of the past 5 years and let’s seriously find out how many families actually think it was worth it?

don’t worry, I’ll wait.

keep up your desperation, we all know you are one bad recruitment year away from being a laughing stock.

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Oregon state teams don’t fair as well as you think against ECNL competition. My daughter is on Thorns and there has been some crossover games this spring. Mostly with Thorns playing their younger team against state teams.

07 UPDX lost to Thorns 08 0-1
06 UPDX lost to Thorns 06 0-3
06 Eastside lost to Thorns 07 0-3
03/04 Eastside lost to Thorns 05 2-12

I’m fairly certain each of those OYSA teams is preparing for Regionals…

That’s your bar? Really? UPDX?

0-1 game is your bar?
06 beating a UPDX team that lost to a B team in the final your bar?
06 eastside team losing to 07 team is your bar?
04 eastside did not lose to thorns 12-2.

another lie.

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Im familiar with 08 age group and the fact you are trying to gauge accomplishments from a 1-0 game is funny. 08 Thorns are going to get rolled in the coming years. NWE 08s will eventually overtake them. Mark my words. 06 thorns get destroyed by Vancouver timbers Ga team. 04 Eastside team was better than Thorns 04 team NO QUESTION. Thorns 04 team was a JOKE and likely 6th or 7th best in the state of Oregon.

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As an infamous Chinese rock band from the 80s used to sing, lyrics translated to English:

This place is like a garbage dump
The worms they crawl all over me
We swallow our consciousness
And sh1t our ideology

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lol please don’t talk about older thorns teams that we screwed up and sold the same bs we are doing now. Just ignore that and assume we are doing a better job. ? Did not say this. Mentioned factual evidence that the da affected teams are moving through. Comparing thorns to all other teams will be more equal as everyone in any league can play hs now. That is a big change, a fact and it had effects that will be no more.

- please assume that all our teams now are good and not going to be like the rest of our older teams. Older teams are solid now. But don’t look at the fact we had to recruit these kids in because fc portland died in a league that was supposedly elite… there is one higher d1 fc portland kid joining the thorns oldest team this year. No major impact. Sorry, you lied again. There is one fc portland kid that made the 06 thorns team. No others made it. Keep spreading the lies.

- 6 teams worth of parents and players chose the thorns so that’s that….. So did soccer chance. You can always find gullible people. It does make sense why they tend to leave. One player left the 06s for next season. Three players were cut from the combined 04/05 team next season. No massive or even minor leaving. Nice lies, again.


- older ages are hard blah blah blah. More excuses and more reasons to laugh at you for trying to cover up. Anyone who knows soccer knows what i wrote about the oldest aged players at any club to be true. Thorns actually may fair better than most local clubs given their large roster.

- 10 d1 on 05? Don’t worry we’ll wait. The reality will be 3-4 that find a good school. 1-2 that walk on and quit. And meanwhile everyone goes to the same places everyone else goes. I said 10 d1 for 2024s which is the 2005/2006 age band. And yes i stand by this 1000%.

Yawn, don’t accuse someone of purposely spreading misinformation when you are the pot calling the kettle black. You sound desperate to cover your propaganda and assumptions of what you think is going to happen. How many stretches and assumptions do you write in your defense of something that hasn’t shown to be good at all the past couple of years? Recruiting fc portland’s kids to save yourself doesn’never said this, you did. T justify the lack of development, bs propaganda, and excuses that come out of your club. I do think quite a few talented 2007s from fc portland (their best age group) joined the thorns for next season by choice. They had a choice after fc lost ecnl status. Any fc player could go anywhere and many did. No one saved anyone. Thorns have a product just like any other club. Buyers choose.

Let’s take a poll of the past 5 years and let’s seriously find out how many families actually think it was worth it? I am not sure you are getting anywhere here. Soccer landscape changes. Thorns are now in the mix as a top choice club in our area. Deal with it.

Don’t worry, i’ll wait.

Keep up your desperation, we all know you are one bad recruitment year away from being a laughing stock. Well then every club will be a laughing stock at some point. Some years are better than others. A good club is not built on one year. It is built on multi year performance. The thorns are now a good choice for a lot of players over a lot of their teams. Let’s hope you do not have a position of leadership in any local club. You are more than happy to bash others, but do not even suggest your “best other option”.

if there is none in your opinion. Then please, be quiet. You are of no help.

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Im familiar with 08 age group and the fact you are trying to gauge accomplishments from a 1-0 game is funny. 08 Thorns are going to get rolled in the coming years. NWE 08s will eventually overtake them. Mark my words. 06 thorns get destroyed by Vancouver timbers Ga team. 04 Eastside team was better than Thorns 04 team NO QUESTION. Thorns 04 team was a JOKE and likely 6th or 7th best in the state of Oregon.

The 06 Thorns are good. No way they would lose to the Wa Timbers or anyone else at that age group other than NWE.

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The 06 Thorns arent good. they would lose to the Wa Timbers and anyone else at that age group other than NWE.

You are right

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The 06 Thorns are good. No way they would lose to the Wa Timbers or anyone else at that age group other than NWE.

Plus 07 thorns matched up pretty evenly with 06 WA Timbers when they played…

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Predictions/Rankings for the 22/23 year:

04/05 - Thorns, NWE, UPDX, WA Timbers
06 - NWE, Thorns, WA Timbers, big dropoff
07 - Thorns, UPDX, WA Timbers, NWE
08 - Thorns, NWE, UPDX, WSM
09 - NWE, Thorns, WA Timbers, UPDX
10 - Thorns, WA Timbers, NWE, too soon to tell

Thorns hold top spot for a 2nd year. My prediction is they shoot themselves in the foot and drop after this season/during this season.

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Predictions/Rankings for the 22/23 year:

04/05 - Thorns, NWE, UPDX, WA Timbers
06 - NWE, Thorns, WA Timbers, big dropoff
07 - Thorns, UPDX, WA Timbers, NWE
08 - Thorns, NWE, UPDX, WSM
09 - NWE, Thorns, WA Timbers, UPDX
10 - Thorns, WA Timbers, NWE, too soon to tell

Thorns hold top spot for a 2nd year. My prediction is they shoot themselves in the foot and drop after this season/during this season.

Played thorns 06 last week. We lost
but it was fairly close most of the game. They would get destroyed by wa timbers 06. Sorry but we’d play the thorns again, not playing timbers again anytime soon.