OPL Fall

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"Do your time"... are we in prison?! OPL is doing the same thing OYSA did to their "elite" clubs when they didn't have control!

yes, Div 1 will be prison for a good club like WAFC. I am also sure they will make it to Premier but not so sure they will win Premier like the good coach hopes. Nonetheless, spoken with confidence and gotta like that!

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i have no problem doing the Div 1 this year. i garantee the U12, U13 and U14 boys will play premier next fall and be top teams in that Div as well

Oh yeah! Well I guarantee that at least one of those teams will not! How you like them apples?!

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In my kids case it was NOT the DOC's fault. He has done everything he can but the OPC said no and chose a team that only had 4 wins last fall in Premier to stay. We saw the emails and know it's not smoke. OPC playing favorites and kids paying the price. I have heard there were other teams that got passed over as well so it's not just this team, our club either.

This is not a new conversation. In the past I have seen the statement made by the powers that be (OPC) that the teams at the bottom of premier "didn't want" to move down, so they didn't have to. Odd it only seems like Big 8 teams get this choice...otherwise they actually enforce the rules.

It finally becomes clear just what we have set ourselves up for. More and more politics.

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This is not a new conversation. In the past I have seen the statement made by the powers that be (OPC) that the teams at the bottom of premier "didn't want" to move down, so they didn't have to. Odd it only seems like Big 8 teams get this choice...otherwise they actually enforce the rules.

It finally becomes clear just what we have set ourselves up for. More and more politics.

Lies, lies, lies. The bottom 2 from premier move down unless one of the top division 1 teams chooses to stay division 1. Period.

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Lies, lies, lies. The bottom 2 from premier move down unless one of the top division 1 teams chooses to stay division 1. Period.

Unless one of the bottom 2 teams is an OPC member... Then the rules become a little more flexible.

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Lies, lies, lies. The bottom 2 from premier move down unless one of the top division 1 teams chooses to stay division 1. Period.

Look at the U12 girls. No lies.

Westside Timbers Copa TS won league, won the directors cup, and was not allowed to join premier.

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Look at the U12 girls. No lies.

Westside Timbers Copa TS won league, won the directors cup, and was not allowed to join premier.

U11's going up to U12 is always the exception and it's been this way at least the last two years because 12 teams are allowed in premier at U11. Tough for your team but your DOC should have thought more of the team at the beginning of U11 and put them in premier for fall of U11. 12 teams were in premier at U11 and it makes sense that the top 8 from those 12 stay in premier. Bottom 4 from U11 premier are dropped to D1. At least that makes D1 more competitive for your team.

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U11's going up to U12 is always the exception and it's been this way at least the last two years because 12 teams are allowed in premier at U11. Tough for your team but your DOC should have thought more of the team at the beginning of U11 and put them in premier for fall of U11. 12 teams were in premier at U11 and it makes sense that the top 8 from those 12 stay in premier. Bottom 4 from U11 premier are dropped to D1. At least that makes D1 more competitive for your team.

It is tough, coach is the DOC of the club. He was told one thing and the other occurred. He was told if our team beat the other contending teams in the u12 premier that it would become a non-negotiable. We beat or tied all of the teams (except 1 that we didn't get to play) and still nothing. Wish there was a consistency. Guess we'll have to win D1 all over again. The teams that dropped down from premier will more than likely end up middle of D1 or lower. They have lost to half the current D1 teams last spring and this summer.

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It is tough, coach is the DOC of the club. He was told one thing and the other occurred. He was told if our team beat the other contending teams in the u12 premier that it would become a non-negotiable. We beat or tied all of the teams (except 1 that we didn't get to play) and still nothing. Wish there was a consistency. Guess we'll have to win D1 all over again. The teams that dropped down from premier will more than likely end up middle of D1 or lower. They have lost to half the current D1 teams last spring and this summer.

Off topic for this thread but you seem to know a bit about U12 D1....which teams would you pick as top 4? My daughter is new to this age group/league in Oregon and wondering which teams will be toughest. Thanks.

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Off topic for this thread but you seem to know a bit about U12 D1....which teams would you pick as top 4? My daughter is new to this age group/league in Oregon and wondering which teams will be toughest. Thanks.

Honestly the top 5 are (no order) Bridlmile, EMFC, and the 3 Westside teams. The Vancouver teams are usually their B teams and not as much of a threat. They're still good, mainly when they swing down players. Other than that, the top 4 are what I first wrote.

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U11's going up to U12 is always the exception and it's been this way at least the last two years because 12 teams are allowed in premier at U11. Tough for your team but your DOC should have thought more of the team at the beginning of U11 and put them in premier for fall of U11. 12 teams were in premier at U11 and it makes sense that the top 8 from those 12 stay in premier. Bottom 4 from U11 premier are dropped to D1. At least that makes D1 more competitive for your team.

Yet another exception. Funny, RCL doesn't have this odd U11 to U12 exception. The problem is we have now heard throughout this thread examples which equate to a lengthy list of exceptions. It's these exceptions that cause people to scrutinize and feel like the process is unfair. When my DK played in the RCL, I don't recal much of any ill will towards the rules (or those that make them) because they were clear, fair, and no exceptions.

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Oh yeah! Well I guarantee that at least one of those teams will not! How you like them apples?!

i like the challenge! and even if you are right, as a matter of fact even if only one team wins the premier div that is enough to brag about for our club. remember we are just a bunch of volunteers.... playing at the premier level at a fraction of the cost you premier parents pay

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Yet another exception. Funny, RCL doesn't have this odd U11 to U12 exception. The problem is we have now heard throughout this thread examples which equate to a lengthy list of exceptions. It's these exceptions that cause people to scrutinize and feel like the process is unfair. When my DK played in the RCL, I don't recal much of any ill will towards the rules (or those that make them) because they were clear, fair, and no exceptions.

Go read the Wa forum (not on TS) and you'll see plenty of people griping about the RCL and the unfair advantages certain clubs get (Xfire for example)

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Go read the Wa forum (not on TS) and you'll see plenty of people griping about the RCL and the unfair advantages certain clubs get (Xfire for example)

Oh really. I know the forum you are speaking. It's easy to lob a grossly generalized comment like that. Why don't you share a couple of examples for us?

I appologize if that comes across confrontational. I just think you are talking about something different than what this thread has been discussing. We all know Crossfire and Wa Premier have a lot of power and they most certainly have pull when it comes to making the rules, changeing the rules, or whatever politics that may come with it. That said, when it comes to setting the RCL Divisions, relegation, and promotion the rules are very clear. In my years in the RCL, I never had a beef with that part of the RCL and I rarely heard any complaints from others either. I cannot say that with the OPL. In fact, it is quite the opposite. Many people are frustrated, and I feel rightly so.

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i like the challenge! and even if you are right, as a matter of fact even if only one team wins the premier div that is enough to brag about for our club. remember we are just a bunch of volunteers.... playing at the premier level at a fraction of the cost you premier parents pay

I was just playing around. Good luck to your teams.