OCYS Consolidated Thread

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It It? FKK is no threat FKK is no threat why all the threats what threats?, letters from lawyers, bogus charges, etc? Go over to the FKK office and read the letters No thanks. The FKK office is a rathole. ECNL was awarded to CFK. Then why didn't CFK run with it? Agreements were made with OCYS, then OCYS proceeded to renege on all of their agreements. Please elaborate - with FACTS. When 100's left to form a new club, OCYS pursued and tried to ruin them. Really? How so? Use FACTS to support your comments.

Time will pass and people will forget,...people will forget the obnoxious a-holes at FKK.

You're delusional and obsessed.

YOU really are quite EMOTIONAL…aren't you?

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What about 2016 players any verbals yet? When will they start committing?

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Agreed. D1 requires Freshman to go to "Study Hall" their first semester and can only earn their way out of it with a good GPA. A coach doesn't want to baby sit a player that can't make the grades and waste athletic scholarship money on someone who will most likely not stay in the program.

This isn't just a requirement for D1 programs. D2 and D3 programs do it, also.

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YOU really are quite EMOTIONAL…aren't you?

kids playing a simple game of soccer has turned to big business in the City Beautiful. Youth soccer has become easy Money for some. The innocents of youth soccer and the beauty of youth sports is at risk.

Greed is upon us in the City Beautiful.

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What about 2016 players any verbals yet? When will they start committing?

Sure. Go check out the link to that database posted earlier in the thread. Sophomores committing tend to be cream of the crop with national team experience, but yeah there's already a few getting committed to top programs.

Historically, "peak recruiting" commitments for women's soccer tends to be Spring of Junior year- starting about now for 2015's. A lot of coaches make their decisions after Disney Showcase and ECNL are wrapped up. That's not to say a lot won't commit as seniors, too. But now is the heaviest time.

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This isn't just a requirement for D1 programs. D2 and D3 programs do it, also.

It's not a "requirement" by the NCAA. All good schools want to protect their investment in an athlete, so they often have good academic support for Freshman and even Sophomores- required study hall, academic counselors, and free tutoring are pretty common.

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Any good tips for up and coming recruiting players/parents? Do's and Don'ts? Things to concern from experienced players/parents?

Sure. My daughter is a 2014 D1 commit. She will sign her NLI in about a month.

The biggest piece of advice I can offer is to avoid the idea that getting committed is anyone else's responsibility. It's not the club, the coach or the league you play in (although each of those things plays an important role). It's up to the player- guided by her parents- to put in the hard work, the contacts, the follow up and the on-field performance to get noticed and establish the relationship with the coaches at the schools she's interested in.

Nobody gets "discovered" at a tournament or showcase. Coaches have a specific agenda and list of athletes they want to see. That comes from communication. It takes diligent work.

Good luck!

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kids playing a simple game of soccer has turned to big business in the City Beautiful. Youth soccer has become easy Money for some. The innocents of youth soccer and the beauty of youth sports is at risk.

Greed is upon us in the City Beautiful.

You are dumb. Rec sports is for fun, innocence and beauty. Its for the fat kid, the un athletic kid, the mentally challenged kid. Its for the parents who think they know sports....

Hey dummy, this is a capitalist country. Everything is about money. We all pay almost 10times the cost of rec so our child has a chanve to compete at high levels. Last i looked OCYS, FKK, RUsk and FCA charged pretty much the same.

Pick your club, then shut up.

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That spread sheet is a recruiting sheet of players of interest.NOT a commitment spreadsheet.
Many of the players on the spreadsheet will not have the required SAT or ACT score to make the commitment spread sheet.A GPA of more than 3.0 will gather interest but that alone means nothing.
A decent top 20 D1 soccer college with a long standing college graduation record will require 1200-1350 SAT score for two subjects and over a 20 for ACT.

Schools like Stanford ,Duke,UNC. D3 Schools and IVY, GPA and SAT needs to be very high.I hope these girls who committed to these schools will have the grades

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Schools like Stanford ,Duke,UNC. D3 Schools and IVY, GPA and SAT needs to be very high.I hope these girls who committed to these schools will have the grades

any commitment for an athletic scholarship is contingent upon qualifying for and being accepted by the university on its academic criteria. I'm sure the listed girls know that, and most of them will be just fine.

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;1167641]You are dumb. Rec sports is for fun, innocence and beauty. Its for the fat kid, the un athletic kid, the mentally challenged kid. Its for the parents who think they know sports....
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Pretty classless comment. Its for the parents who think they know sports? Really? So the parents that have there child in competitive sports automatically means they know sports? I've heard it all know.

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You are dumb. Rec sports is for fun, innocence and beauty. Its for the fat kid, the un athletic kid, the mentally challenged kid. Its for the parents who think they know sports....

Hey dummy, this is a capitalist country. Everything is about money. We all pay almost 10times the cost of rec so our child has a chanve to compete at high levels. Last i looked OCYS, FKK, RUsk and FCA charged pretty much the same.

Pick your club, then shut up.

Last I looked FKK had 3 Championships at CASL this year on the boys side and 1 at the Disney Showcase. This is just boys. How did OC do at those two events? Fact is FKK knows how to compete, they know how to coach, they know how to develop players and move them no to the college level. OC knows none of the above.

If you are a player and or a parent you are paying money. You are paying for ECNL, for DA etc. It is now free! What are you getting at OC? Answer is nothing. Why pay for MLS when you really want to pay for your kid to develop? If you want to pay for MLS go buy a ticket, simple. Capitalist yes, stupid no.

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Not here to jump through hoops for you. That's reserved for the circus in Sanford where the clowns are. I know what I Know and what I experienced was lie after lie from every Director and revolving-door ECNL "coach".

OK, and I think just about everyone agreed with you that the first year was a bad experience. That is why all the coaches were fired and they brought in all new coaches from FCA. Coaches who regularly beat CFK teams. Now there is good communication, they deliver on their promises and I have yet to run across an angry ECNL parent this year. That is with the record the club is posting to this point. How can that be? How can the ECNL program continue to struggle on the field, yet the parents are satisfied with the program???

It is because the program is running fine and the kids are getting good coaching and training. AH is honest with the girls and parents and works hard. The ECNL Showcase was a big success and I have not heard one complaint from the OCYS members.

So, in summary, changes were made, development is improving, parents happy.

Maybe some of those that left took the "problems" with them.

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My daughter is on that spreadsheet. She made her verbal commitment as a Junior. Yes, as part of the verbal agreement, the athlete must apply to and be accepted by the school as any other student. But the players on the spreadsheet are, in fact "committed"

Unless The Coach or the Players Changes their mind then they are " NOT COMMITTED"

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Unless The Coach or the Players Changes their mind then they are " NOT COMMITTED"

Are you seriously THAT dim?

A commitment is simply a verbal agreement. That's why they call them "verbal commitments". A verbal commitment is the ONLY agreement allowed until a National letter of Intent is signed on a day specified by the NCAA.

It should be obvious to everyone that if one of the parties changes their mind, the verbal commitment can be changed or nullified. It can happen for a variety of reasons. did you just discover that?

Verbal commitments are made at any time in advance of NLI Day. They are made seriously and after negotiations of the terms of scholarship. It allows a player a reasonable surety of a contract signing, and a coach the reasonable surety that the player will in fact sign. This is the way the system has worked for decades in all NCAA sports.