Miriam Hickey

[thebes20]

Re: Miriam Hickey

It is amazing to me how some can spend so much time on here criticizing one of the best trainers on this side of town. All for what? Because she might brush elbows with MC or because she might get a whiff of MC off of RC? Really? Is this what gets you so angry? You people seriously need other entertainment.

Start your own forum about your dislike for MC, or better yet, try doing something to better the game. Or we can talk about how crazy parents like yourselves are ruining soccer and other youth sports.

Running MH through the mill? Now I have seen it all.

I moderate this forum and while I disagree with Miriam that it is a nasty site, I do agree with her that the Michigan forum might lead one to agree with her. I am from Florida, and while there are problem posters on Fl from time to time, that forum has been going on for 6 years and some of the threads have posters that have followed their girls club teams from U15 to U18 all on one long continuous thread. The Mass. site is more popular than Mich and I think that the threads on there are extremely in interesting, especially the thread which asks the question whether to take away soccer because of bad grades. Do you or do you not? Or the Florida topic, "Are clubs charging too much money with the present economy?" This is the way I would like this forum to be used and I hope that you Miriam would take a look at the other forums before making a general statement about the site. There are problem posters on all states that are popular but none compare to Michigan. Why is that?
The Mich forum is new and I believe that the few people that make up this forum probably come from a few clubs or high school team and they like to bash anyone that is or may be better. (All forums are like that but because of the number of posters on the other threads the bad ones are in the minority).
Miriam is right in that good coaches or even great coaches are bashed and mediocre coaches are usually not mentioned. (There is a thread on here that I will not comment on).
This forum is here and can be informative, funny, entertaining and useful. Right now the Michigan forum is in some aspects a problem. Please patrol yourselves and allow this forum to grow into what we hope it may be.
BTW, Fl has a seperate site on its forum that is devoted to the high schools. We could set up a site on here that would be the same. Is there a need at this time? Go to the board index and then to the Fl high school site and see how that is set up and then tell me.

Re: Miriam Hickey

"Miriam is right in that good coaches or even great coaches are bashed and mediocre coaches are usually not mentioned."

Hopefully thebes20 has done his homework and knows from the USYSA's web site administrator's link that MC is disqualified through risk management because of his 1999 Georgia violent felony conviction and subsequent incarceraton. Not all coaches bashed on this and other forums are "good" coaches.

[thebes20]

Re: Miriam Hickey

"Miriam is right in that good coaches or even great coaches are bashed and mediocre coaches are usually not mentioned."

Hopefully thebes20 has done his homework and knows from the USYSA's web site administrator's link that MC is disqualified through risk management because of his 1999 Georgia violent felony conviction and subsequent incarceraton. Not all coaches bashed on this and other forums are "good" coaches.

Reread my comment where I said that there was one thread on here that I would not comment on. And I will not. This is something that I know about, but do not really know about because I am in Florida. I do have a problem with the topic because it goes on and on I really want this site to steer away from this and be more positive. I know there are more topics that could be discussed. The problem for me is that I would like this site in Michigan to be more positive. I know that for some this topic is important, but I do not see where any further comment will solve the problem. I think it has been discussed and that is enough. GO FLORIDA BCS BOWL CHAMPS....hopefully

Re: Miriam Hickey

I have never seen MH coach nor met her nor been on the same pitch as her, but I have been around the metro Detroit soccer scene for over a decade and have never heard a bad nor discouraging word about her, and have actually heard unsolicited praise by numerous folks who are more knowledgeable and "In" to the youth soccer arenas more than myself. Unfortunately, at the same time, I can say I have NEVER heard a good thing said about her boss. Every time RC (and obviously MC) name has been brought up, nothing good has been said. I can't even tell you how many times i have been in a conversation with southeastern Mi soccer people where RC has been put down, and has been made fun of, or stories of lies and bad coaching techniques such as those mentioned in the posts of Miriam herself (about other clubs/coaches). So much so that I find it difficult to understand why she is with the club she is with, and not a "Higher" end club such as the real Vardar or gators or Hawks. I have never, NEVER heard a good word said about Rc and I could go on and on about the things said about him that aren't so nice and I don't have any direct knowledge or experience of these transgressions so I won't go into the nasty s I have heard about Rc but the fact remains I have heard these things on different occasions and from different sources so I really doubt that all these folks are envious of his VE success or his Lamphere success or his MCCC success, one can only wonder why all these people have such similar stories of him and the sorrier side of soccer in this community. This is why I believe this site is so well traveled, where else can those wronged by one who thinks they are all powerful gripe and try to warn others ?!?

Re: Miriam Hickey

Are you aware thebes20 that, straight out of the georgia penitentiary in 1999, MC was hired by J Schulz to coach a boca juniors bu10 team? Being from FL doesn't make one immune from this sort of stuff. FYSA found out and JS had to cut him loose. Old soccer buddies trying to give an ex-con a job can be harmful to kids. Sometimes blogs and forums are the only places to get the word out on these guys who move around. Don't take my word for it, call Jim Cosgrove at USYSA.

[thebes20]

Re: Miriam Hickey

Are you aware thebes20 that, straight out of the georgia penitentiary in 1999, MC was hired by J Schulz to coach a boca juniors bu10 team? Being from FL doesn't make one immune from this sort of stuff. FYSA found out and JS had to cut him loose. Old soccer buddies trying to give an ex-con a job can be harmful to kids. Sometimes blogs and forums are the only places to get the word out on these guys who move around. Don't take my word for it, call *grape* Cosgrove at USYSA.

My son practiced with J schulz for years back in the 90's. (He practiced with Jose Altidore who I think is the next phenom in USA soccer) I never heard of this coach in context with Schulz although he may have been there. My son was older than the Schulz teams and played his club with another club team. I have heard of this coach for years though. It was on the Florida forum on this site years ago and also on the Georgia forum board, (not talking-soccer), long before the Michigan became popular. All this info has been out there for years. That is why I said I am over it and want to move on. You can read the thread if you want, I am sick of deleting and reading all of this. I can understand why you are upset but it has all been said time and again and I am sure that this is not the best forum to keep beating this drum. Just to restate, this has all been posted on the Florida soccer board, the Georgia soccer board and others for years and it is still a topic. If you want to keep this thing alive go to another venue where you may get some resolve.

Re: Miriam Hickey

With regards to the above re: RC

The fact that RC is talked about everywhere in the local soccer scene shows you tht RC has had his hands on soccer in this area for many, many years. I am the opposite. Have heard nothing bad about RC until I found this site. I decided that I would allow my own experiences be the judge of RC. I suggest that most of you do the same.

With regards to MH going to a 'Higher" end club: The Gator's and Hawks are Higher end? why? because they charge more? because they 'Win' more? I'm sure MH is looking for just that. I mean, why didn't anyone tell her there were 'Higher' end clubs out there? Silly Miriam! That fact that MH is with VE should tell you ALOT about her objective. Youth 'DEVELOPMENT' (yes, crazy word eh?) without trying to gouge parents pocketbooks. Could she go anywhere and be DOC for any club around here and get paid handsomely for it? Definitely. You could do much worse. Some call it "CRAZY"! I would imagine they are the ones getting 'gouged' for much less training.

Have a great Soccer Day!

Re: Miriam Hickey

I don't think she should go to a higher end club, I think she should run and operate her own club for girls. It would be positive coaching, positive thinking and it would be good to have an eclusive club for girls only.

I know I have never said anything bad on here about her, but I think the point is missing of the association thing.

Look at it this way, Look at the high school crowd.

Take a kid that is a good student, say an A- student. Great kid, everyone likes the kid.

But, the kid doesn't dig other A students, maybe because they are nerdy and not as socially connected to everyone as this kid.

So, the kid more or less finds the thrasher / metal music type friends more appealing because of their being intriguing, however, the A student does hang out at the creek or the woods to smoke, party or what ever.

After a while, seeing the A student "hanging" with the Gear Heads will eventually personafy this and we identify this A student with that group. Still, you have an A student, great kid, great personality, but many will withdraw because if that students friend base.

TO View from Afar

To: View from Afar

Have you ever asked folks in the soccer community about the brothers? Just because you haven’t heard doesn’t mean there aren’t folks out there with opinions. I understand this is only hear say, but the information is from people that have had experiences with them and have judged them for themselves. Also, these judgments are from different sources and from different time periods. I think people can and do make decisions based on what others have to say. Decisions such as a movie to go see, a contractor to hire, or even a soccer club. Many people actually investigate these things before making a decision. That is all I am saying. Obviously if only one or two people had bad experiences, and if there were other positive responses – but in this case there was not, there were many negative comments, by many people, over many years (different time periods).

On topic, I certainly do not believe (only based on what I have heard,) she would want to be with another club for more money, for more wins, or for more prestige. Everything I have heard are along the lines of her own words above, a very caring, positive, and effective coach. My point was why associate yourself to a club which may tarnish a reputation simply by those running things. That was the only reason I wondered why she wasn’t at a different club.

Re: Miriam Hickey

That was very well said.

I guess that is what I was trying to say about her, however, I tend to be a bit blue-collared in my thought process.

Re: Miriam Hickey

I have been around the youth soccer scene for some time as well. As I said before, I have heard several positive things in regards to RC. The only negative things that I have seen have been on this board, AND if you eliminate MC with these, there are hardly any!

That's right, Take ALL of the negatives said about RC that does not include MC (because as far as i'm concerned, the only thing that ties these two together on here is the fact that they are brothers, (can't change that).

All Done? So here's what we got. RC allegedly asked some of his LHS girls to join his VE club.

That's it... Yup, Boom, final. Everything else is just a personal attack against MC wth RC thrown in.

Sooooo, back on topic. MH's reputation, in my opinion, is not tarnished any because of her professional relationship with RC. She doesn't have one with MC, so as the moderator said above, let's put it to rest.

Re: Miriam Hickey

I have read that the high school coach asked the same girls he tried to poach to train with his brother, isn't that more serious?

Re: Miriam Hickey

Thought we were talking about RC? There is a forum for MC. Again, the negatives about RC that have nothing to do with MC are few and far between.

Show me one that doesn't involve MC.

Re: Miriam Hickey

Don't know the rivalry, but what a dead horse to beat, this story, story about u11's, they're like 13 now aren't they? Geeze

Re: Miriam Hickey

Congratulations coach Miriam.

This award could not have been given to a more deserving and caring coach.