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    Have you seen the JAYFC accounting books?

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Yes, come spend thousands to watch your kids learn how to play kickball, I mean soccer, in the B leagues, while getting screamed at! Money well spent!
      Yes, you would want to do research on your kid's coach and what the training is like compared to what you have. ECNL and NPL and USYS Region/National leagues are not B leagues for boys and girls. The only thing different JAFYC has league wise is boys DA.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Yes, you would want to do research on your kid's coach and what the training is like compared to what you have. ECNL and NPL and USYS Region/National leagues are not B leagues for boys and girls. The only thing different JAFYC has league wise is boys DA.
        Sorry, I don't have a dog in the hunt here, but everything below DA for boys and girls are in fact the B leagues. There is no arguing against that.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Dear JFC,

          I have following for days both JFC and FESA threads. A lot of stupidity and nonsense from both sides. But also a lot of interesting ones.

          Lets go back in time.

          It is kind of surprising how the JFC threads tends to disappear whenever the finalcial issues shows up. I understand that a $400,000 dept is something you do not want your families to know, but you also have to realize that people is not stupid and, eventually, they will find out. Some coaches might hide it for a while but eventually, after some weeks not getting paid, they will start asking questions, and worse than that, telling people. Most of them will just stop coaching.
          What will you say then? Will you say is all FESA lies? That answer will not work forever.

          Lets talk about those coaches now. You know that most of the south staff is moving to FESA. You can say is just "low teams coaches" and people might believe it. But you know is not true. Your top young teams coaches are moving and they are bringing the kids with them. You are about to lose a whole age group at PV, important one, since is actually stronger than in the north. The big problem for you is that once they are at FESA, they will compare what they get at FESA with what they had... and they will talk. Once they do so, the rest of the south will move too, leaving Davis Park empty.

          I also saw these last days how you were using ED as an example (often compares with the "evil" SB). Lately He does not appear that often so I am wondering why that might be. I understand that is a bad moment to announce that the leader of the academy might get fired for his incompetence. You keep saying is all lies and deceiving from FESA but is going to happen. And is going to happen soon. What will you say then?

          We can also talk about the pro-team: Armada. You just need a call to find out the truth about this. And thats why you do not deny it anymore. Next year JFC will be JFC again, and not Armada. Now you are saying that is not a big deal, cause you do not need them and you can be as great as you were without them. But the truth is that without the support from the pro-club, your financial situation gets worse. Way worse.

          So you are turning to Clay.

          Clay County. Or about the big announcement you were going to make this week. Everybody knows that you were trying to announce that JFC and Clay are merging to create some kind bigger club. There are two problems with this. Problem one: Clay people does not want it. Problem two: LT just want it to steal all your girls and take them to DA. He Does not care at all about JFC or the rest of the players/families. Some JFC people know that and they are not sure about doing it. ED is pushing it cause he thinks is the only way to save the situation, but the board does not trust him anymore. I dont blame them. They know LT is just a rec coach, a bad one.


          Finally, take a look at FESA.

          Two years ago nobody knew and nobody at JFC even cared about that merge between Creeks and JYSC. It was a rec club they said. They will never achieve nothing.

          But they had a plan and they had a strategy. They built a solid coaching staff and and they started developing their project.

          In two years they changed the Jacksonville Youth Soccer situation. Not bad for a rec club.

          You cannot do that without the suport of the families. Nobody goes anymore to JFC, but now JFC families come to FESA. and this year was the worst.

          And now is too late for JFC.

          Take care,

          A.
          While much of this is poking fun of JFC, the reality is PV and Nocatee are in the middle of JFC and FESA, closer to FESA. In the past, PV soccer club was a consolidation, destination type club for players but players would eventually leave to the bigger clubs. PV was so small and had a hard time keeping a team in an age group without heavily recruiting. The recreation program was very small and players had to leave at the older ages for more. Way back, the PV soccer board and Creeks board approved a merger but PV's DOC at the time was not easy to work with and the deal fell through, and once the PV DOC was ousted then JFC took in PV. But the reality is even with the "partnership", PV players drive to Florida Elite for its quality programs from recreational to competitive, plus the drive is much closer.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Have you seen the JAYFC accounting books?
            Yes, I have. Believe me, the books have NEVER been more healthy!

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              'Finally, take a look at FESA.

              Two years ago nobody knew and nobody at JFC even cared about that merge between Creeks and JYSC. It was a rec club they said. They will never achieve nothing.

              But they had a plan and they had a strategy. They built a solid coaching staff and and they started developing their project.

              In two years they changed the Jacksonville Youth Soccer situation. Not bad for a rec club.

              You cannot do that without the suport of the families. Nobody goes anymore to JFC, but now JFC families come to FESA. and this year was the worst.

              And now is too late for JFC. '

              I agree with the late night guy's post except that it is too late for JFC. JFC will remain strong and it makes Jacksonville soccer stronger to have the two large competitive clubs. It is positive for the players and communities they serve. If you come out to Veteran's Park you will feel the culture from the families and the 45 some new amazing coaches that FESA has hired. The south suburbs of Jacksonville is where the biggest growth is occurring and Florida Elite (Creeks Soccer Club, Jacksonville Youth Soccer Club) is now also Palm Coast and World Golf Village Soccer Academy. Ponte Vedra-Nocatee communities are also served by Florida Elite. Florida Elite is working very closely with Saint Johns County Parks and Recreation to bring new fields to World Golf and the Bartram-Rivertown areas. Jacksonville Youth Soccer and Creeks had each been around over twenty years with rich histories and infrastructures, and the additions of other soccer clubs like Palm Coast, Oakleaf, World Golf, and others are making an exciting network for scrimmages, and recreation and competitive team tournaments. FESA will have the U.S. Club Soccer leagues for ECNL and NPL for the boys and girls teams starting in fall 2017. Together all the soccer clubs have come together as One Florida Elite, and together the future will be brighter.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Sorry, I don't have a dog in the hunt here, but everything below DA for boys and girls are in fact the B leagues. There is no arguing against that.
                This has been hashed out numerous times. It may supposed to be the boys DA is better, but ECNL will be different than DA and better for many boys and girls. ECNL allows for the players to play high school soccer too. Let's just watch the experiment unfold with girls DA and ECNL teams in North Florida. Both the DA and ECNL teams should be very strong in Northeast Florida.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  I agree with the late night guy's post except that it is too late for JFC. JFC will remain strong and it makes Jacksonville soccer stronger to have the two large competitive clubs. It is positive for the players and communities they serve. If you come out to Veteran's Park you will feel the culture from the families and the 45 some new amazing coaches that FESA has hired. The south suburbs of Jacksonville is where the biggest growth is occurring and Florida Elite (Creeks Soccer Club, Jacksonville Youth Soccer Club) is now also Palm Coast and World Golf Village Soccer Academy. Ponte Vedra-Nocatee communities are also served by Florida Elite. Florida Elite is working very closely with Saint Johns County Parks and Recreation to bring new fields to World Golf and the Bartram-Rivertown areas. Jacksonville Youth Soccer and Creeks had each been around over twenty years with rich histories and infrastructures, and the additions of other soccer clubs like Palm Coast, Oakleaf, World Golf, and others are making an exciting network for scrimmages, and recreation and competitive team tournaments. FESA will have the U.S. Club Soccer leagues for ECNL and NPL for the boys and girls teams starting in fall 2017. Together all the soccer clubs have come together as One Florida Elite, and together the future will be brighter.

                  Great propaganda for the FESA thread, I am sure your followers will feed into it. 45 new coaches?! What does that tell you? Please mention the demeaning manner that coaches will yell at the children. Boys I have seen this for kids 10-11years old. Hope the coach I saw is one that was replaced by one of the 45 amazing new coaches.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    This has been hashed out numerous times. It may supposed to be the boys DA is better, but ECNL will be different than DA and better for many boys and girls. ECNL allows for the players to play high school soccer too. Let's just watch the experiment unfold with girls DA and ECNL teams in North Florida. Both the DA and ECNL teams should be very strong in Northeast Florida.
                    Agreed. Northeast Florida now has great options to play high level youth soccer. Despite all the crap and club bashing both JFC and FESA do a good job. JFC has had lots of success in ECNL and now FESA is very rapidly rising as one of the best clubs in the state too. We should all be thankful of the opportunities whether it's DA, ECNL, NPL or whatever.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      NO!!! Armada Youth Academy has cash in the bank, and plenty of it. Just the same ole FECES troll that can't spell worth a damn trying to hurt a reputable program because somewhere along the way his kid/kids didn't make the cut. He's a sad sack of FECES!
                      Is there not legal action that can be taken for all their wrong accusations?

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        While much of this is poking fun of JFC, the reality is PV and Nocatee are in the middle of JFC and FESA, closer to FESA. In the past, PV soccer club was a consolidation, destination type club for players but players would eventually leave to the bigger clubs. PV was so small and had a hard time keeping a team in an age group without heavily recruiting. The recreation program was very small and players had to leave at the older ages for more. Way back, the PV soccer board and Creeks board approved a merger but PV's DOC at the time was not easy to work with and the deal fell through, and once the PV DOC was ousted then JFC took in PV. But the reality is even with the "partnership", PV players drive to Florida Elite for its quality programs from recreational to competitive, plus the drive is much closer.
                        Do you know how many of Armadas current boys DA, girls ECNL, and other elite players drive from right in FESA's back yard? A ton of them do. It's because FESA can't offer them what they need. One family has 3 boys all playing DA, and the oldest is in the final 22 for the U15 National Team. The funny thing is, they could practically hit a golf ball from their house to Veterans Park. Nobody needs your history lesson on PV. Especially when you only give half of the story. I'm assuming that's because you are either CB from Creeks or SM from JYSC, and only want to paint the picture your way. The reality is that at one time PV was the ONLY club in the Jax area for girls that wanted to compete at the highest level. Yes, they consolidated talent, but that's not a fault. Parents of really good players want their kids to play and be pushed by other really good players. That's why so many top players from the old Creeks and JYSC areas chose to come to JFC and are still choosing to come to Armada. You have lost even more of your top boys to DA for next year and you don't even know it yet. Also, I haven't heard of a single, not even 1, top player from the boys or girls side leaving Armada for FESA. Sure, you'll get a couple that couldn't make boys DA come over so their Mommy and Daddy can say they play on the TOP team, but you aren't getting any of the best players. Keep spinning FESA. You are winning the race to be best trolls of TS! Well done!

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Great propaganda for the FESA thread, I am sure your followers will feed into it. 45 new coaches?! What does that tell you? Please mention the demeaning manner that coaches will yell at the children. Boys I have seen this for kids 10-11years old. Hope the coach I saw is one that was replaced by one of the 45 amazing new coaches.
                          One or two might have to go if they are yelling, but the hundreds of other coaches have the right demeanor and are developing players. I see two of three coaches with some of the older recreation teams and they are phenomenal. It took Bubb to weed out the coaches who weren't right or were ready to move on because they knew the club was in new hands and Bubb would find a good replacement for the team the increased demands. The higher competitive teams require much more from a coach. The new coach Harrington covered Bubb's team this past weekend because Bubb was dealing with tryouts. You need coaches with that kind of determination and willing to work as a team, who can come right in and take over another coach's game plan with quality. The games were three hours away and Harrington spent two days dedicated to another team. ECNL will demand higher licensed coaches willing to spend much time on the road.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Do you know how many of Armadas current boys DA, girls ECNL, and other elite players drive from right in FESA's back yard? A ton of them do. It's because FESA can't offer them what they need. One family has 3 boys all playing DA, and the oldest is in the final 22 for the U15 National Team. The funny thing is, they could practically hit a golf ball from their house to Veterans Park. Nobody needs your history lesson on PV. Especially when you only give half of the story. I'm assuming that's because you are either CB from Creeks or SM from JYSC, and only want to paint the picture your way. The reality is that at one time PV was the ONLY club in the Jax area for girls that wanted to compete at the highest level. Yes, they consolidated talent, but that's not a fault. Parents of really good players want their kids to play and be pushed by other really good players. That's why so many top players from the old Creeks and JYSC areas chose to come to JFC and are still choosing to come to Armada. You have lost even more of your top boys to DA for next year and you don't even know it yet. Also, I haven't heard of a single, not even 1, top player from the boys or girls side leaving Armada for FESA. Sure, you'll get a couple that couldn't make boys DA come over so their Mommy and Daddy can say they play on the TOP team, but you aren't getting any of the best players. Keep spinning FESA. You are winning the race to be best trolls of TS! Well done!
                            Times have changed. The tide has turned with Florida Elite earning into higher leagues like EcNL and NPL for its boys and girls. Florida Elite Palm Coast is going to be a excellent partnership for the future. Foley as a new ecnl director will continue to elevate the club. So much is new and different and better at Florida Elite. There will always be a few players who travel between the the two clubs. DA is supposed to be for the top 1% and it will gain a few from FESA. It's not a f'ing contest like you make it out to be. Remember, soccer clubs are about serving all levels of players, and the reward players get is the enjoyment of playing. Florida Elite has an excellent development academy for the young ages. It may develop a few for JFC's boys DA and that would be excellent.

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                              rosters were finalized before tryouts, so why come out on Saturday at all?

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                This has been hashed out numerous times. It may supposed to be the boys DA is better, but ECNL will be different than DA and better for many boys and girls. ECNL allows for the players to play high school soccer too. Let's just watch the experiment unfold with girls DA and ECNL teams in North Florida. Both the DA and ECNL teams should be very strong in Northeast Florida.
                                Different doesn't mean better, it means not the same. Therefore, if DA is the highest level with the best players, then it can be surmised that ECNL is not. Simple really!

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