Official bayside hater's thread

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Your making my point - Bayside beat Galway twice in tourney play this year, tied Nova. Nova beat FC Stars last year - not a lot of difference in most teams in NE.

No one is claiming Bayside is a PDA or Matchfit Chelsea but they can pretty much play with anyone in NE. BTW your "average" Galway is ranked 4th in MA for U14 - so that says the competition isn't nearly as good as you think on a whole in Mass or you were wrong about Galway?

This is an absurd post. One cannot take one result and use it as the basis of discussion.

If Bayside played last season's Stars U, Stars A, NEFC Express, Scorpions, they would lose 19 times out of 20. If they played Fuller Hamlets, South Shore Select, or Nova, they would lose more often than they won.

That is the level of Galway too.

Galway got their GS points at bad tournaments.

There are opinions but then there is poor analysis. That is what you have.

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This is an absurd post. One cannot take one result and use it as the basis of discussion.

If Bayside played last season's Stars U, Stars A, NEFC Express, Scorpions, they would lose 19 times out of 20. If they played Fuller Hamlets, South Shore Select, or Nova, they would lose more often than they won.

That is the level of Galway too.

Galway got their GS points at bad tournaments.

There are opinions but then there is poor analysis. That is what you have.

GS points are rated based on how team finished SC and tournaments so if Galway got thier points they earned it. Stop giving excuse. I did say Bayside is not on par with Stars of Mass, Scropions, and NEFC Express yet. And there is no reason we should be compare to the two ECNL (exclusive members) and NEFC because again they are well established girls teams . NEFC express is not an ECNL member but they are a strong teams that can play with any teams at the national level. So as much as you would like to blash Bayside no one from Bayside ever says we are as good as those teams yet which you keep referring to.

What we said was Bayside is the best option in RI for girls and boys who would like to play permier. You however keep reminding us that MA is the only place for girls. My point is there only 4 ECNL in NE. This mean only 320 or so girls lucky enough to be invited to join out of over 100,000 eligible girls. So please stop saying you have to go to MA on the girls side. Less than .3% of girls are invited or fortunate enough to make the ECNL teams.

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Where would you suggest they go in Rhode Island? My daughter has played for couple of the clubs in RI and I might add Bayside is by far the best choice I made. I played the game and know the game well enough than most parents on this posting. Case in point, this year U14, They were a town team who came to Bayside with little or technical skill. In 1 1/2 year they are now SC Champion. That is a turnaorund many club dies for. Most clubs here have players playing for them 4-5 years and have little to show for.

If not guaranteeing success at RI SC than what else are you looking for. SC allows players to move on the regional and opportunities to play against some of the top teams in Region 1. You must be referring to ECNL and DAP then tell me what RI club belong to the league? Remember that affiliation with Greater Boston Bolts. The whole pupose wiht that affiliation is to allow better Bayside players in U15 and up opportunities to move beyond Bayside so that the players will have greater exposure and elite training. Can you say that about other RI clubs.

Let's not go overboard here. That goup was SC runner up two years in a row, one of those was when they were still playing town soccer. Certainly they improved at Bayside, but their SC success had as much to do with Rays imploding as the training at Bayside.

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Please make sure you have your fact straight. The U14 enter Maple D3 in the fall of 2009 as a U13 and by the end of Spring 2011 they easily could have made Maple D1. They finished Spring Maple with a record of 5-1-1. U15 played Maple D1 with a record of 4-2. So your argument is pointless and clueless.

A slightly less biased look back in history is in order here.

Again, This team should have been relegated out of MAPLE in fall 2009, but backed in to Maple for the spring 2010 season because teams above them pulled out of Maple

They added players over than winter and got some of that all important development that everyone crows about at Bayside and played into D2 (beating a town team to get there) in the spring of 2010.

Then they were again relegated to D3 in fall 2010, but stayed up due to teams above them leaving MAPLE.

They would have made D1 maple for spring 2012 after finisheing second in D2 spring 2011.

You can only beat the teams you play and they did that for the most part. But honestly the D2 Maple of spring 2011 is a shadow of what it once was.

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Let's not go overboard here. That goup was SC runner up two years in a row, one of those was when they were still playing town soccer. Certainly they improved at Bayside, but their SC success had as much to do with Rays imploding as the training at Bayside.

So the rays raised from the dead and won the SC this year. You are a moron at best. Or you are a Rays parents who can't see the reality around you. Please living in your dream that the Rays are still the best teams in RI. Have you not forgot they are soo good that they decided this year's SC was not worth the time and effort. Or you are a parents who still ******* in your closet and can't face the fact that the Rays is dead. YEs they imploded because they saw the writing on the wall that they will never be the Rays you hope to be or it ever last in you fantasy. May sure you don't wet your bed thinlking about why your belove Rays simple vanished in front of your face.

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Let's not go overboard here. That goup was SC runner up two years in a row, one of those was when they were still playing town soccer. Certainly they improved at Bayside, but their SC success had as much to do with Rays imploding as the training at Bayside.

I guess you are the offical Bayside hater because you need to get some reality check. The world have moved beyond you. The Rays imploded lol...... yes they did. Gone forever.

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This is an absurd post. One cannot take one result and use it as the basis of discussion.

If Bayside played last season's Stars U, Stars A, NEFC Express, Scorpions, they would lose 19 times out of 20. If they played Fuller Hamlets, South Shore Select, or Nova, they would lose more often than they won.

That is the level of Galway too.

Galway got their GS points at bad tournaments.

There are opinions but then there is poor analysis. That is what you have.

You also have illogical arguments. If one cannot conclude anything from one game, your entire point regarding Bayside losing to Galway is flawed since it's predicated on one result.

Guess what? Stars, NEFC, Scorps represent four teams in all of New England and makes your argument that all RIs must go to Mass for training pretty limited. I'll buy that if you live in RI and your kid can make Stars or Scorps, you should be pursuing it. Other than that, the rest of New England is at parity.

This is certainly backed by the fact Bayside has beat SS Select, Galway, Seacoast Maine, FSA, and tied Nova this year.

BTW NEFC is team in turmoil, I wouldn't even consider them in the top of the class as they will also have some departures to ECNL teams.

Got anymore deep data-backed insights - bring it on JSSA Magic Dad.

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You also have illogical arguments. If one cannot conclude anything from one game, your entire point regarding Bayside losing to Galway is flawed since it's predicated on one result.

Guess what? Stars, NEFC, Scorps represent four teams in all of New England and makes your argument that all RIs must go to Mass for training pretty limited. I'll buy that if you live in RI and your kid can make Stars or Scorps, you should be pursuing it. Other than that, the rest of New England is at parity.

This is certainly backed by the fact Bayside has beat SS Select, Galway, Seacoast Maine, FSA, and tied Nova this year.

BTW NEFC is team in turmoil, I wouldn't even consider them in the top of the class as they will also have some departures to ECNL teams.

Got anymore deep data-backed insights - bring it on JSSA Magic Dad.

Thanks for your thoughtful comments. Topdrawer Soccer is a very reputable soccer ranking as part of the SI.com family. Here is the link to the ranking for the northeast clubs Topdrawer Soccer Ranking.com http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club-...rankings/women

You can draw your own conclusions if you like but I think they have more weight then anyone of us posting on TS.

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Thanks for your thoughtful comments. Topdrawer Soccer is a very reputable soccer ranking as part of the SI.com family. Here is the link to the ranking for the northeast clubs Topdrawer Soccer Ranking.com http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club-...rankings/women

You can draw your own conclusions if you like but I think they have more weight then anyone of us posting on TS.

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http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club-...rankings/women

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http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club-...rankings/women

linky work now go click click.....

Nobody regards the topdrawersoccer club rankings. Nobody.

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So the rays raised from the dead and won the SC this year. You are a moron at best. Or you are a Rays parents who can't see the reality around you. Please living in your dream that the Rays are still the best teams in RI. Have you not forgot they are soo good that they decided this year's SC was not worth the time and effort. Or you are a parents who still ******* in your closet and can't face the fact that the Rays is dead. YEs they imploded because they saw the writing on the wall that they will never be the Rays you hope to be or it ever last in you fantasy. May sure you don't wet your bed thinlking about why your belove Rays simple vanished in front of your face.

You did not read the post.

RAys imploded in 2010/2011--- We agree?

They had been SC champion in that age group previous two years---We agree?

So their demise facilitated the rise of BS to SC champion? Not true....?

Or to look at it another way:

BS lost in SC finals to Rays 3-0 in Spring 2010?... We agree?

BS whipped Rays in Fall of 2010, 7-0 or something like that...We agree?
So not unreasonable to say that Rays implosion and BS rise somewhat related?

For the record not in any way related to Rays...But the cool Aid both sides drink is a bit much

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You did not read the post.

RAys imploded in 2010/2011--- We agree?

They had been SC champion in that age group previous two years---We agree?

So their demise facilitated the rise of BS to SC champion? Not true....?

Or to look at it another way:

BS lost in SC finals to Rays 3-0 in Spring 2010?... We agree?

BS whipped Rays in Fall of 2010, 7-0 or something like that...We agree?
So not unreasonable to say that Rays implosion and BS rise somewhat related?

For the record not in any way related to Rays...But the cool Aid both sides drink is a bit much

There is one thing that can explain the demise of the Rays--their former presidnet, JK.

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You did not read the post.

RAys imploded in 2010/2011--- We agree?

They had been SC champion in that age group previous two years---We agree?

So their demise facilitated the rise of BS to SC champion? Not true....?

Or to look at it another way:

BS lost in SC finals to Rays 3-0 in Spring 2010?... We agree?

BS whipped Rays in Fall of 2010, 7-0 or something like that...We agree?
So not unreasonable to say that Rays implosion and BS rise somewhat related?

For the record not in any way related to Rays...But the cool Aid both sides drink is a bit much

Here's the real truth - Bayside added 3 strong players in year 2 (2010-11) including one that hadn't played premier before, one from Rays, and one playing up from Bayside 13s - one stiker, two center-mids.

If the Rays had stayed intact in (2010-11) season, minus the one mid-fielder going to Bayside, - Bayside would have still beat them as the Rays had their hands full in State Cup the year before.

The fact that the Rays imploded is immaterial as only one player ended up on Bayside and like I said, Bayside still would have beat the Rays as many of the girls that had been on that Rays team for years had peaked athletically around U12s. That team's weakness was its bench and that was evident when it went to big tournaments - go back and check Got Soccer - team never won a big tournament.

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Here's the real truth - Bayside added 3 strong players in year 2 (2010-11) including one that hadn't played premier before, one from Rays, and one playing up from Bayside 13s - one stiker, two center-mids.

If the Rays had stayed intact in (2010-11) season, minus the one mid-fielder going to Bayside, - Bayside would have still beat them as the Rays had their hands full in State Cup the year before.

The fact that the Rays imploded is immaterial as only one player ended up on Bayside and like I said, Bayside still would have beat the Rays as many of the girls that had been on that Rays team for years had peaked athletically around U12s. That team's weakness was its bench and that was evident when it went to big tournaments - go back and check Got Soccer - team never won a big tournament.

I dont doubt, as you say, all things being equal, BS likely would have beaten Rays in SC 2011 regardless.

No doubt BS was a better team. They were equal if not better in 2010 too, they did not play as well as they could have in final.

But I doubt that those Rays girls are washed up (as individual players) at u14.

It is a numbers game and BS has the numbers for now. 5 years ago did anyone think that the Rays wouldnt exist in 2012? Not many...I think there may be a cautionary tale there for JMA and his merry men too.

Rays failed because the club did not change with the times and offer more to the consumers of their product...the players.