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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    You have to be joking... right? There isn't a team in RI that is even remotely close to the ECNL entrants from Massachusetts, either in top end talent, talent depth, technical ability or tactical capability. The top teams in Mass. are made up entirely of D1 college calibre players and some have 2 or 3 NT/NP players - just like the top teams from NJ, ENY, EPA Maryland and Virginia. BTW, I looked back and in the last decade Rhode Island has had a single girls team progress out of the RR at Regionals. That was the 2003 Rays U16s, playing at home (@URI) and out of a group with WNY, CT and NH. That is 1 for 60, worst in the region.
    You need to stop living in the past. The Rays' glory days are over. I know it is hard to let go but you need to because the Rays you know are bygone. I'm pretty sure there are couple players on these teams that have RI players. Also the boys side are doing ok the last time I checked. 45 ranked team in the nation says alot about what RI is capable of producing.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      You have to be joking... right? There isn't a team in RI that is even remotely close to the ECNL entrants from Massachusetts, either in top end talent, talent depth, technical ability or tactical capability. The top teams in Mass. are made up entirely of D1 college calibre players and some have 2 or 3 NT/NP players - just like the top teams from NJ, ENY, EPA Maryland and Virginia. BTW, I looked back and in the last decade Rhode Island has had a single girls team progress out of the RR at Regionals. That was the 2003 Rays U16s, playing at home (@URI) and out of a group with WNY, CT and NH. That is 1 for 60, worst in the region.
      I have to agree with this post that there are no teams in RI that come close to any of the ECNL entrants (or DAP) for that matter in MA. It has more to do with demographics than anything else; and RI is unfortunately part of the MA demographic area. Top players from MA will never come to RI, it's vice versa and that will never change. You might get one great team out of RI every ten years or so, but great around here is mediocre at best in the Region. My original point was that if all the top players in RI played on one team we'd have a pretty good competition, but then again, if all the top talent in the other states were on the same teams they'd cream us. I guess if you're one of those rare "super" players you have no choice but to go to MA. That doesn't mean we should all stop trying to compete at the highest level possible. Look at the Jamaican Bobsled Team, they had fun didn't they?? :)

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        #33
        Originally posted by Just My Personal Opinion View Post
        I have to agree with this post that there are no teams in RI that come close to any of the ECNL entrants (or DAP) for that matter in MA. It has more to do with demographics than anything else; and RI is unfortunately part of the MA demographic area. Top players from MA will never come to RI, it's vice versa and that will never change. You might get one great team out of RI every ten years or so, but great around here is mediocre at best in the Region. My original point was that if all the top players in RI played on one team we'd have a pretty good competition, but then again, if all the top talent in the other states were on the same teams they'd cream us. I guess if you're one of those rare "super" players you have no choice but to go to MA. That doesn't mean we should all stop trying to compete at the highest level possible. Look at the Jamaican Bobsled Team, they had fun didn't they?? :)
        ECNL and DAP are a totally different animal. DAP is more of a farm program for MLS clubs these days. That is the direction they are heading. ECNL will soon be the same as DAP. So if you campare US Youth sanctioned league to a pro development league, it is an unfair comparising. The natural progression is you have couple of club players seek more competition so they move on to premier, premier players ID by DAP programs so they move on, DAP ID by national team so they move on. So comparing DAP to premier is like comparing apples and oranges. So your logic is off base. Just remember RI has no DAP. In fact there are only four DAP in NE.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          ECNL and DAP are a totally different animal. DAP is more of a farm program for MLS clubs these days. That is the direction they are heading. ECNL will soon be the same as DAP. So if you campare US Youth sanctioned league to a pro development league, it is an unfair comparising. The natural progression is you have couple of club players seek more competition so they move on to premier, premier players ID by DAP programs so they move on, DAP ID by national team so they move on. So comparing DAP to premier is like comparing apples and oranges. So your logic is off base. Just remember RI has no DAP. In fact there are only four DAP in NE.
          Ok , so lets take DAP out of the equation, RI still has a hard time competing.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            ECNL and DAP are a totally different animal. DAP is more of a farm program for MLS clubs these days. That is the direction they are heading. ECNL will soon be the same as DAP. So if you campare US Youth sanctioned league to a pro development league, it is an unfair comparising. The natural progression is you have couple of club players seek more competition so they move on to premier, premier players ID by DAP programs so they move on, DAP ID by national team so they move on. So comparing DAP to premier is like comparing apples and oranges. So your logic is off base. Just remember RI has no DAP. In fact there are only four DAP in NE.
            BTW RI does have DAP and ECNL .... They just happen to be in MA. RI , like I said is part of that market.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Just My Personal Opinion View Post
              BTW RI does have DAP and ECNL .... They just happen to be in MA. RI , like I said is part of that market.
              If that is your argument VT, NH, ME is part of MA. But NH has a DAP program. CT has a DAP and they are either part of NY or MA depending how you define market.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                If that is your argument VT, NH, ME is part of MA. But NH has a DAP program. CT has a DAP and they are either part of NY or MA depending how you define market.
                Many of the best players from southern NH (including some on national teams) play for Massachusetts clubs. It is very common. Although Seacoast is an excellent club, and has had some limited success on the regional level, it is probably more likely that a top NH player will migrate to Massachusetts. In contrast, there have been occasional players from the Springfield MA area to play for CFC in Conn., although not common because Western U, Pioneers and Stars have been other solid options. Vermont and Maine are less likely because of the travel distance, although there are occasional examples of top players from those states migrating to the top Massachusetts clubs - even an example of a NP player from Maine with the Scorpions on the MA south shore. That is a long commute! But you also have far fewer players from Maine, Vermont (or RI) that are capable of competing at the top level of club, whether they are willing to commute or not. That is just a matter of population and demographics. For example, in any given year there will be about 20 girls from RI playing in D1, most of whom will be with in-state teams URI and Bryant. That is about the same as Maine. Massachusetts will have between 150-175 girls playing in D1 each year and NJ 225+. If you are a girl from RI, and want college exposure, you either need to make headway into the Regional Pool, or go play for a Massachusetts team that will play in some good showcases. Its that simple.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Many of the best players from southern NH (including some on national teams) play for Massachusetts clubs. It is very common. Although Seacoast is an excellent club, and has had some limited success on the regional level, it is probably more likely that a top NH player will migrate to Massachusetts. In contrast, there have been occasional players from the Springfield MA area to play for CFC in Conn., although not common because Western U, Pioneers and Stars have been other solid options. Vermont and Maine are less likely because of the travel distance, although there are occasional examples of top players from those states migrating to the top Massachusetts clubs - even an example of a NP player from Maine with the Scorpions on the MA south shore. That is a long commute! But you also have far fewer players from Maine, Vermont (or RI) that are capable of competing at the top level of club, whether they are willing to commute or not. That is just a matter of population and demographics. For example, in any given year there will be about 20 girls from RI playing in D1, most of whom will be with in-state teams URI and Bryant. That is about the same as Maine. Massachusetts will have between 150-175 girls playing in D1 each year and NJ 225+. If you are a girl from RI, and want college exposure, you either need to make headway into the Regional Pool, or go play for a Massachusetts team that will play in some good showcases. Its that simple.
                  I couldn't agree more! Excellent post

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                    #39
                    You need to check the rosters of the D1 schools in RI.

                    Bryant girls -- 21 girls, only 3 from RI..6 from NJ, 4 from MA

                    Providence Girls -- Only 2 from RI

                    URI Women - Only 5 out of 21

                    Brown - Heck, only 4% of the kids from Brown are from RI so I suspect the number of RI kids on either of the soccer teams are 0..maybe 1 on a good year.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by COL View Post
                      You need to check the rosters of the D1 schools in RI.

                      Bryant girls -- 21 girls, only 3 from RI..6 from NJ, 4 from MA

                      Providence Girls -- Only 2 from RI

                      URI Women - Only 5 out of 21

                      Brown - Heck, only 4% of the kids from Brown are from RI so I suspect the number of RI kids on either of the soccer teams are 0..maybe 1 on a good year.
                      The poster was "Just My Personal Opinion" In this case, it was all opinion and absolutely no facts.:)

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                        #41
                        Hey Guys! Give it a rest... Don't your wives have a list of things to do, like paint a room or cut the grass.... Get off the computer and go do something, stop thinking about this... it doe'nt matter

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Congratulations on beating all the town teams in state cup. Get ready the real teams at regionals. You won't even get 8 total wins from your teams in hershey
                          going to hershey with my family this year, and really looking forward to it. it'll be a great experience for all the girls, and we're all pulling for them to do well--not only our team, but all the bayside teams and the rays u13's as well! it'd be nice to have a decent showing to show the region that little rhody can field some competitive teams. also hoping for a couple of wins for our team to shut you up, you joke. you'd think you'd be a little supportive of a bunch of kids excited for the regionals and playing their hearts out and keep your petty and idiotic comments to yourself.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by dpm333 View Post
                            going to hershey with my family this year, and really looking forward to it. it'll be a great experience for all the girls, and we're all pulling for them to do well--not only our team, but all the bayside teams and the rays u13's as well! it'd be nice to have a decent showing to show the region that little rhody can field some competitive teams. also hoping for a couple of wins for our team to shut you up, you joke. you'd think you'd be a little supportive of a bunch of kids excited for the regionals and playing their hearts out and keep your petty and idiotic comments to yourself.
                            U13 rays are the only girls team with a chance to have a good showing

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by dpm333 View Post
                              going to hershey with my family this year, and really looking forward to it. it'll be a great experience for all the girls, and we're all pulling for them to do well--not only our team, but all the bayside teams and the rays u13's as well! it'd be nice to have a decent showing to show the region that little rhody can field some competitive teams. also hoping for a couple of wins for our team to shut you up, you joke. you'd think you'd be a little supportive of a bunch of kids excited for the regionals and playing their hearts out and keep your petty and idiotic comments to yourself.
                              sounds like fun.... just where i would want to spend my holiday weekend..... hoping for a couple of wins? How about hoping for a couple of goals

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                sounds like fun.... just where i would want to spend my holiday weekend..... hoping for a couple of wins? How about hoping for a couple of goals
                                does sound like fun, and unlike you, i'll be in hershey as the proud parent of a state champ...not locked in my mom's basement with a bottle of maddog watching nick at nite--enjoy the holiday

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