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They actually do separate the players at the beginning of the session based on league, at least the ones my daughter has attended. There were some players who got added to the bunch throughout the day, but they did organize it by where the kids played at first.

Some do and kids move freely up and down .... It's not where you start it's where you finish. Any coach that separates based on their patch sleeve and ignores one group entirely is in for a shirt career. Unless you are at a power school you are going to miss a lot of identified " blue chips". The best coaches will find the gems that slipped through the cracks and got lumped in with the coal. Conversely, not everything that shines is gold and evaluating players on their own merits rather than giving them a free pass because if the team they played on is lazy and foolish.

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Some do and kids move freely up and down .... It's not where you start it's where you finish. Any coach that separates based on their patch sleeve and ignores one group entirely is in for a shirt career. Unless you are at a power school you are going to miss a lot of identified " blue chips". The best coaches will find the gems that slipped through the cracks and got lumped in with the coal. Conversely, not everything that shines is gold and evaluating players on their own merits rather than giving them a free pass because if the team they played on is lazy and foolish.

Please name the power-schools you are referring to....

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Some do and kids move freely up and down .... It's not where you start it's where you finish. Any coach that separates based on their patch sleeve and ignores one group entirely is in for a shirt career. Unless you are at a power school you are going to miss a lot of identified " blue chips". The best coaches will find the gems that slipped through the cracks and got lumped in with the coal. Conversely, not everything that shines is gold and evaluating players on their own merits rather than giving them a free pass because if the team they played on is lazy and foolish.

Do you read what you write?

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Some do and kids move freely up and down .... It's not where you start it's where you finish. Any coach that separates based on their patch sleeve and ignores one group entirely is in for a shirt career. Unless you are at a power school you are going to miss a lot of identified " blue chips". The best coaches will find the gems that slipped through the cracks and got lumped in with the coal. Conversely, not everything that shines is gold and evaluating players on their own merits rather than giving them a free pass because if the team they played on is lazy and foolish.

Nearly all have their short list going in to the day - either they've seen players at showcases or video/club coach calls make them interested in the player. Some will move players around often, others focus primarily on their short list and may bring up a few gems from the other group. Also depends on the size of the event - some are absurdly large and separation is necessary. Others are smaller and more manageable. But no doubt they initially want to see how their short list does.

Once you walk on the field it's up to you to sell yourself, all day long. Never let up.

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They actually do separate the players at the beginning of the session based on league, at least the ones my daughter has attended. There were some players who got added to the bunch throughout the day, but they did organize it by where the kids played at first.

Most likely they did not - they're doing that based on previous interest. If they only went to certain showcases then yes most of the list will be patch based defacto.

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1 player from NYSC, and 0 from Fury, actuals Fury isn't even listed....

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/u-s-...ents-for-2020/

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1 player from NYSC, and 0 from Fury, actuals Fury isn't even listed....

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/u-s-...ents-for-2020/

There are many others missing but don't hold your breath for Fury.

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There aren't many top programs and not many players from around here who will go to them. I think what the poster referred to was the grind of HS soccer. College soccer is a grind, even more so at top programs. Even with academic support, keeping up with your work, long hours training and traveling, very little time off even when it's supposed to be "off season"...it's a grind.

You do realize there are limits om the number of hours that a student can spend on their sport per week. This includes training, weight room, games and meetings. So the grind is the same no matter what program.

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Nearly all have their short list going in to the day - either they've seen players at showcases or video/club coach calls make them interested in the player. Some will move players around often, others focus primarily on their short list and may bring up a few gems from the other group. Also depends on the size of the event - some are absurdly large and separation is necessary. Others are smaller and more manageable. But no doubt they initially want to see how their short list does.

Once you walk on the field it's up to you to sell yourself, all day long. Never let up.

Only too 20 schools actually get most of the players in their shirt lists ..... The higher up your annual ranking the more you get ..... Everyone below them is constantly changing their short lists as kids commit to other schools .... Which means they are lowering their sites out of necessity .... The point was if you aren't a top team, you do not land the big fish as they often choose other schools. The coaches in these buckets that are clever and seek out the hidden gems that are recruited by lower or more local schools are the coaches that will shine. These gems are everywhere but you have to look and be open minded.

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Only too 20 schools actually get most of the players in their shirt lists ..... The higher up your annual ranking the more you get ..... Everyone below them is constantly changing their short lists as kids commit to other schools .... Which means they are lowering their sites out of necessity .... The point was if you aren't a top team, you do not land the big fish as they often choose other schools. The coaches in these buckets that are clever and seek out the hidden gems that are recruited by lower or more local schools are the coaches that will shine. These gems are everywhere but you have to look and be open minded.

Hiccup 🍷 have another

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Hiccup 🍷 have another

Ikr. Every great player has thousands to blown on soccer in ages or ecnl league. A college coach that thinks there night be strong players out there from lower income families must be real moron.

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Ikr. Every great player has thousands to blown on soccer in ages or ecnl league. A college coach that thinks there night be strong players out there from lower income families must be real moron.

Let's be honest, the "lower income" family argument is old and tired. Are there some players out there that are not playing GDA & ECNL that are strong players? Of course! But rarely are they going to be head and shoulders above ECNL & GDA players, therefore not worth the extra effort of "scouting". And I'm sorry, the disparity in the level of consistent competition among the leagues does play a role...and please spare me the errant stat of the one time a supposed top EDP team beat a last place ECNL team in a showcase, I'm talking week after week-full court press style games.

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No doubt these top leagues has completely corrupted and monetized youth soccer. But the lower income studs or the lax studs that still are also soccer studs but have not the time to play club soccer, are still very strong and of interest to coaches. At least around me where the gda and ecnl options exist but are weak, college coaches will scout high school games

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Let's be honest, the "lower income" family argument is old and tired. Are there some players out there that are not playing GDA & ECNL that are strong players? Of course! But rarely are they going to be head and shoulders above ECNL & GDA players, therefore not worth the extra effort of "scouting". And I'm sorry, the disparity in the level of consistent competition among the leagues does play a role...and please spare me the errant stat of the one time a supposed top EDP team beat a last place ECNL team in a showcase, I'm talking week after week-full court press style games.

Let's look at it another way Mr glass half full. Rather than saying all ecnl and gda players are of the highest caliber let's say that more than 80% of them are merely support players. That is to say that on an average tram 3 or 4 are very good players. The other 16-20 kids are less than special and easily surpassed by lots of players from other leagues. I know you think all of ecnl and gda are unicorns but they are not.

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No doubt these top leagues has completely corrupted and monetized youth soccer. But the lower income studs or the lax studs that still are also soccer studs but have not the time to play club soccer, are still very strong and of interest to coaches. At least around me where the gda and ecnl options exist but are weak, college coaches will scout high school games

The way soccer is played here, there is a place for every kid with no fear and exceptional speed. Technical ability is just gravy.