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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    The fact that there are more college coaches (or at least the ones worth mentioning) showing up to ECNL & GDA league games of 14/15 year olds, than there are showing up to major EDP & USYS Showcases actually tells you they do shop badges.
    They have to prioritize because they don't have unlimited budgets. But that doesn't mean they won't consider players from other leagues. They know that the top two don't capture all the talent. It's also highly dependent on level. If you want middle to upper D1 you should try and be in ECNL or DA; lower D1 and certainly many D3s it isn't as much of a requirement. ECNL R would fall into this category.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Suckers reach for the Fury DA dream, and still hanging around. Better off playing with another edp club because the Fury name is tarnished beyond repair. But keep paying Pauls mortgage.
      Some may not have other options- either can't get in a roster or can't afford more fees, because ecause that money paid is lost. I'm no lawyer but it seems a lawsuit could be viable? At least from the players who followed the rules. The ones who broke them have no case

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        They have to prioritize because they don't have unlimited budgets. But that doesn't mean they won't consider players from other leagues. They know that the top two don't capture all the talent. It's also highly dependent on level. If you want middle to upper D1 you should try and be in ECNL or DA; lower D1 and certainly many D3s it isn't as much of a requirement. ECNL R would fall into this category.

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        It's not that they won't *consider* players from other leagues, but they won't go out of their way for them either. They don't have to. Let's be honest, for the most part-at best, the best in EDP/NPL is mid-level ECNL & GDA and I'm referring to teams and individual players. No program is having their coaches forego a GDA or ECNL event to go check out some kid playing in the EDP Sunrise Cup, lol.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          It's not that they won't *consider* players from other leagues, but they won't go out of their way for them either. They don't have to. Let's be honest, for the most part-at best, the best in EDP/NPL is mid-level ECNL & GDA and I'm referring to teams and individual players. No program is having their coaches forego a GDA or ECNL event to go check out some kid playing in the EDP Sunrise Cup, lol.
          If a kid is local and schedules work it's easy enough for them to catch a league game. ID events, which are almost a necessity for every player these days, is another place to potentially shine.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            The top divisions are competitive how HS soccer is competitive, kick and run rugby! And yeah, I'm basing this on experience. My kid just left a "competitive" EDP team this season and is now on the ECRL team at another club. Wow, what a difference in training and style!
            You think that on an ECRL team? Wow, your kid must have been a bench player in EDP 3rd division.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Dude your kid is NPL. This is just NPL with a new name. It's a big step down from ECNL and DA. That's jut a fact. Most of the schools she's looking at would have looked at her in NPL and even EDP as well. Coaches shop talent, not badges. You best lower your expectations on how recruiting is going to go for her or you're sure to be disappointed.
              Heck, this new NPL is a big step down from regular NPL as well ... always has been ... those kids cant walk and chew gum at the same time. This is like an F league.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                If a kid is local and schedules work it's easy enough for them to catch a league game. ID events, which are almost a necessity for every player these days, is another place to potentially shine.
                LMAO, no coach is wasting their time going to an EDP league game to check out a player and the ID camp line is a joke. Has your kid ever gone to one?
                Step 1-Seperate the ECNL & GDA players from the rest.
                Step 2-Of the ECNL & GDA players, put top players on one "team", next level on the other "team" and have all the decision makers gather around and watch them scrimmage and run some drills.
                Step 3-Incorporate current players into the ECNL & Gda mix and see how prospects measure up.
                Step 4-Wave goodbye to all the other players that the Volunteer Asst has been babysitting and ensure that they've all confirmed their most updated contact info so they can pay another $100+ for the next ID event!!!

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  LMAO, no coach is wasting their time going to an EDP league game to check out a player and the ID camp line is a joke. Has your kid ever gone to one?
                  Step 1-Seperate the ECNL & GDA players from the rest.
                  Step 2-Of the ECNL & GDA players, put top players on one "team", next level on the other "team" and have all the decision makers gather around and watch them scrimmage and run some drills.
                  Step 3-Incorporate current players into the ECNL & Gda mix and see how prospects measure up.
                  Step 4-Wave goodbye to all the other players that the Volunteer Asst has been babysitting and ensure that they've all confirmed their most updated contact info so they can pay another $100+ for the next ID event!!!
                  You're joking right? Separate GDA and ECNL from the rest? Why, 90% of both leagues (or more) are fillers. Many kids that are great players cant afford those hot messes. Good coaches/programs are looking for talent no matter where it lies. Impressive film can get local coaches to local games to come and see a great player and certainly at a tournament like Jeff Cup, they might come to the lower brackets to watch a kid and take a break from the upper brackets. Sorry, talent trumps pedigree or patch if you can get in front of a sensible coach (which is the hardest part).

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    You're joking right? Separate GDA and ECNL from the rest? Why, 90% of both leagues (or more) are fillers. Many kids that are great players cant afford those hot messes. Good coaches/programs are looking for talent no matter where it lies. Impressive film can get local coaches to local games to come and see a great player and certainly at a tournament like Jeff Cup, they might come to the lower brackets to watch a kid and take a break from the upper brackets. Sorry, talent trumps pedigree or patch if you can get in front of a sensible coach (which is the hardest part).
                    Stop taking everything literally. It’s a generalization. And generally they make a good point.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      LMAO, no coach is wasting their time going to an EDP league game to check out a player and the ID camp line is a joke. Has your kid ever gone to one?
                      Step 1-Seperate the ECNL & GDA players from the rest.
                      Step 2-Of the ECNL & GDA players, put top players on one "team", next level on the other "team" and have all the decision makers gather around and watch them scrimmage and run some drills.
                      Step 3-Incorporate current players into the ECNL & Gda mix and see how prospects measure up.
                      Step 4-Wave goodbye to all the other players that the Volunteer Asst has been babysitting and ensure that they've all confirmed their most updated contact info so they can pay another $100+ for the next ID event!!!
                      A CT NPL club, YU, has 3 players at UCONN and an 03 committed to Villanova. There's many other examples out there. It happens. Yes "generally" you'll have more interest from D1 if you're ECNL or GDA but it's not always the rule. There's also a whole schematic of college levels out there as well.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        A CT NPL club, YU, has 3 players at UCONN and an 03 committed to Villanova. There's many other examples out there. It happens. Yes "generally" you'll have more interest from D1 if you're ECNL or GDA but it's not always the rule. There's also a whole schematic of college levels out there as well.
                        And a few FSA ECNL gets into the schools that their DOC is coach at ... and then dont play. And they really dont get too many other D1s so lets just not say all ECNL or all DA vs ALL everyone else. It's just not true. If skill does not not trump a sleeve patch, then you do not want your kid playing for that idiot coach.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          And a few FSA ECNL gets into the schools that their DOC is coach at ... and then dont play. And they really dont get too many other D1s so lets just not say all ECNL or all DA vs ALL everyone else. It's just not true. If skill does not not trump a sleeve patch, then you do not want your kid playing for that idiot coach.
                          Very true. There's plenty of ECNL and DA players who really should be NPL level. But with so many clubs out there teams need to fill rosters. A patch on a sleeve is no guarantee of anything. That is why you have to get in front of the coaches, and yes that includes ID events. Coaches rarely make offers based on 20 minutes at a showcase. They want to see more. Most times they split off their top candidates from the rest. If you're in that top group (or get moved into later) it's a good sign but you still have to perform. If you're not, you're there to pad their budget.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            A CT NPL club, YU, has 3 players at UCONN and an 03 committed to Villanova. There's many other examples out there. It happens. Yes "generally" you'll have more interest from D1 if you're ECNL or GDA but it's not always the rule. There's also a whole schematic of college levels out there as well.
                            I wouldn't be bragging about the YU commits...no secret that Mags is regretting the hype around a certain player and finds her a better fit on the bench. The program is a mess right now and hoping for an about face...take a look at all their futures committed from 03 & 04-all DA & ECNL.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Very true. There's plenty of ECNL and DA players who really should be NPL level. But with so many clubs out there teams need to fill rosters. A patch on a sleeve is no guarantee of anything. That is why you have to get in front of the coaches, and yes that includes ID events. Coaches rarely make offers based on 20 minutes at a showcase. They want to see more. Most times they split off their top candidates from the rest. If you're in that top group (or get moved into later) it's a good sign but you still have to perform. If you're not, you're there to pad their budget.
                              And there's the difference...my kid has had 3 strong D1 programs come to see her multiple league games (4-5) for full game and showed up to every.single.game during PDA and playoffs (some full, some half) and have communicated their interest in her with her coach after every game. So it's a lot more than 20 minutes...
                              So yeah, she'll do her due diligence and go to one of their ID events, but really she's already 10 steps ahead of the game.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                And a few FSA ECNL gets into the schools that their DOC is coach at ... and then dont play. And they really dont get too many other D1s so lets just not say all ECNL or all DA vs ALL everyone else. It's just not true. If skill does not not trump a sleeve patch, then you do not want your kid playing for that idiot coach.
                                They actually do separate the players at the beginning of the session based on league, at least the ones my daughter has attended. There were some players who got added to the bunch throughout the day, but they did organize it by where the kids played at first.

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