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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Who am I shilling for? I think the whole "my league is better than yours" penis measuring contest is silly. I especially think people who point to a league not being worthwhile simply because our NE team results vs Californian teams is insane. In the end all that matters is whether individual players get seen by the coaches they want to be seen by. Nothing else. If that happens through either league, great. I hope for the kids to get the outcomes they work for, whether they do it by playing for Oakwood, NYCFC or World Class, it doesnt really matter.
    No, that really isn't what matters. What matters is that NE players get top quality training and competition. They aren't.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      You must be the shill for ECNL. The league that has 22 kids on a roster. The league that your kid plays 10-15 minutes after traveling to showcases. The league that adds players at the last minute and sends them to ID events instead of a kid that have been an established team player with equal or better talent then the newcomer. The league that the soccer is also awful. Oh by the way get ready for ECNL 2 & ECNL3. Because there are so many great players still to find. It's about the money people. That's all, just separating you and your money. Enjoy the ride and stay off the internet.

      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      You must be the shill for GDA. The league that has 22 kids on a roster. The league that your kid plays 10-15 minutes after traveling to showcases. The league that adds players at the last minute and sends them to ID events instead of a kid that have been an established team player with equal or better talent then the newcomer. The league that the soccer is also awful. Oh by the way get ready for pre GDA 2 & 3. Because there are so many great players still to find. It's about the money people. That's all, just separating you and your money. Enjoy the ride and stay off the internet.
      See how interchangeable they are?

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        Yes. They are interchangeable, overdone, watered down soccer leagues for kids.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          See how interchangeable they are?

          Whooooooshhh.....right over your head.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Yes. They are interchangeable, overdone, watered down soccer leagues for kids.
            Yes, we are all pawns regardless of the league. This is big business and we are the ones paying for the coaches' cars that are fancier than our own.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              What you described is exactly GDA ..... also throw in constantly replace top teams with bottom feeders further worsening a struggling league. Gheez guys, take a break. You can't replace top teams with crap and expect the league to move forward. Lessen the number of teams and consolidate talent unless this is merely a money and power grab like everyone thinks.
              Because the ECNL doesn't have any bottom feeders? how soon we forget the inclusion of many NPL teams into the ECNL prior to (and still going) the GDA. but I guess when you want to control the narrative you add the information you think best suits your agenda.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Because the ECNL doesn't have any bottom feeders? how soon we forget the inclusion of many NPL teams into the ECNL prior to (and still going) the GDA. but I guess when you want to control the narrative you add the information you think best suits your agenda.
                lol GDA just added a whole slew of NPL clubs. So just stop trying to prove one is superior over the other. They're both bad. Pick the least bad option that works for you and stfu already.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Yes, we are all pawns regardless of the league. This is big business and we are the ones paying for the coaches' cars that are fancier than our own.
                  au contraire - it's the owners who drive the fancy cars. Coaches get paid sh ite and drive beaters.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    au contraire - it's the owners who drive the fancy cars. Coaches get paid sh ite and drive beaters.
                    Some coaches are in on it as well. Look at some of the tax returns of the non-profits. Point is, some of those involved (DOCs, some coaches) are making lots of money off of us parents.

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                      #1 in the country

                      question: At the top level, there is what's perceived as a turf war between the ECNL and Development Academy. How does that affect you from a recruiting standpoint?

                      KRIKORIAN: Well, it’s separated the talents, which kind of waters down the talent. If they could find the same page and figure out a way to work together and get all the best players in the same environment ... we all know that if you have 20 top-level players, their growth and development is going to be significantly better than if you only have 10 top-level players. The whole training environment will be better if all the players are in a top-level group. What's happened now is you have competing interests. Both of the organizations are pulling in their own direction, and it's separated the talent. There is no top league. Both of the leagues, in my mind, are reasonably split in terms of where the best players are playing.

                      For us as college coaches, if we go to a game and we're watching and trying to recruit, and there’s a top-level kid but the quality of her teammates and the opponent isn’t as great, it's much harder to identify and evaluate them in that situation. If we were able to somehow get the ECNL and the DA into the same room and have them combine their efforts and get the best 20 kids on the same team, it becomes much more apparent much quicker who the top kids are, and it becomes easier to identify.

                      They shouldn't make their decisions based on what's in the best interests of college soccer. They should make the decisions based on what's in the best interest of players and player development. We haven't hit a home run with that yet.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        #1 in the country

                        question: At the top level, there is what's perceived as a turf war between the ECNL and Development Academy. How does that affect you from a recruiting standpoint?

                        KRIKORIAN: Well, it’s separated the talents, which kind of waters down the talent. If they could find the same page and figure out a way to work together and get all the best players in the same environment ... we all know that if you have 20 top-level players, their growth and development is going to be significantly better than if you only have 10 top-level players. The whole training environment will be better if all the players are in a top-level group. What's happened now is you have competing interests. Both of the organizations are pulling in their own direction, and it's separated the talent. There is no top league. Both of the leagues, in my mind, are reasonably split in terms of where the best players are playing.

                        For us as college coaches, if we go to a game and we're watching and trying to recruit, and there’s a top-level kid but the quality of her teammates and the opponent isn’t as great, it's much harder to identify and evaluate them in that situation. If we were able to somehow get the ECNL and the DA into the same room and have them combine their efforts and get the best 20 kids on the same team, it becomes much more apparent much quicker who the top kids are, and it becomes easier to identify.

                        They shouldn't make their decisions based on what's in the best interests of college soccer. They should make the decisions based on what's in the best interest of players and player development. We haven't hit a home run with that yet.
                        Cry me a river college coaches. You want the top talent together? Hahaha. That ship sailed when you apparently decided the "top" talent is apparently of course playing in some crazy league requiring the participants to pony up to travel all over creation to play the other "top" talent doing the same. As if of course "top" talent and too travel budget go together in the same player. No where else in the world wastes the time and energy and resources of its young developing players in that way and probably a fair number of you college coaches know that.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          You must be the shill for ECNL. The league that has 22 kids on a roster. The league that your kid plays 10-15 minutes after traveling to showcases. The league that adds players at the last minute and sends them to ID events instead of a kid that have been an established team player with equal or better talent then the newcomer. The league that the soccer is also awful. Oh by the way get ready for ECNL 2 & ECNL3. Because there are so many great players still to find. It's about the money people. That's all, just separating you and your money. Enjoy the ride and stay off the internet.
                          That sounds like my kids DA team.

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                            I'm guessing Albertson and Fury are out of the GDA. Go look at their websites. Fury has not updated their tryouts since April of 2018. Paul Riley is no longer on staff at either location. Albertson is only advertising tryouts for EDP teams and makes no mention of GDA

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Some coaches are in on it as well. Look at some of the tax returns of the non-profits. Point is, some of those involved (DOCs, some coaches) are making lots of money off of us parents.
                              Yes coaches who have some ownership or DOC positions are doing fine. But your typical coach drives an old car, has tow roommates and likely has another job or does private training to make ends meet.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                I'm guessing Albertson and Fury are out of the GDA. Go look at their websites. Fury has not updated their tryouts since April of 2018. Paul Riley is no longer on staff at either location. Albertson is only advertising tryouts for EDP teams and makes no mention of GDA
                                Not sure that is the case...they are emailing about GDA Talent ID Centers with 3 dates in April and May listed. The email has both Fury and Albertson logos along with the DA logo.

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