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Regardless of which side you favor, you have to admit that the NE region is a huge bust for the size of the population (and wealth it possesses) in terms of a quality division. Our region should have been close to the Southwest if they had severely limited the number of teams to drive talent to only a few teams.

IDK but if stars allowed our team into ECNL we then would still need to drive for blowouts all over NE. The people in charge in NE region should care more about the kids instead of themselves.

Bigger picture then patches

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Why on earth is LISC promoting college coach ID clinics to effing 11 year olds??? That club reeks of desperation!

Or using the ODP lists to send emails to recruit. That is definitely not cool.

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Or using the ODP lists to send emails to recruit. That is definitely not cool.

US Soccer has sunken to the lowest of lows. They are allowing clubs to poach players from other clubs. They are now telling kids if their parents don’t pay the clubs of their liking for training, they won’t be invited into Training Camps and they change their own HS rules to accommodate clubs who have players who won’t give up HS. It’s actually getting sickening. If the rumors coming out of Florida are true, then they are dropping 3 Florida clubs because Tophat threatened to go all in ECNL if they didn’t do something about the travel.

If they were paying the cost of GDA then I could see them running the league like that, but we are paying for everything

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Regardless of which side you favor, you have to admit that the NE region is a huge bust for the size of the population (and wealth it possesses) in terms of a quality division. Our region should have been close to the Southwest if they had severely limited the number of teams to drive talent to only a few teams.

I think this region is actually similar to the others in that it can only support one top-tier league. In some Regions, that GDA. In others, it's ECNL.

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US Soccer has sunken to the lowest of lows. They are allowing clubs to poach players from other clubs. They are now telling kids if their parents don’t pay the clubs of their liking for training, they won’t be invited into Training Camps and they change their own HS rules to accommodate clubs who have players who won’t give up HS. It’s actually getting sickening. If the rumors coming out of Florida are true, then they are dropping 3 Florida clubs because Tophat threatened to go all in ECNL if they didn’t do something about the travel.

If they were paying the cost of GDA then I could see them running the league like that, but we are paying for everything

Rumors are rumors....

Poaching players? All clubs do it. I'm constantly getting hounded from an ECNL club to move over there. I don't see the difference.

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IDK but if stars allowed our team into ECNL we then would still need to drive for blowouts all over NE. The people in charge in NE region should care more about the kids instead of themselves.

Bigger picture then patches

why? they are commercial entities and they will be driven by commercial forces. that is the flaw in this whole thing.

In a system that has a profession track at the very top, those entities are driven to get the very best players because they have a reason to. a commercial one. here, there is no single thing that aligns selection with talent.

this fallacy that the YNTs can replace a real professional track is laughable.

quick comparison. In England, if Jane is good enough to play for Chelsea, then she has a choice to make- pro or non pro. if she goes pro, its a constant battle to stay on that track and get a proper education etc. Forget whether you think its a good decision or not. thats the top level and its not in dispute. If you go non pro, then all bets are off. there is no entity in England pretending that they are at that level and charging parents to develop players at that level. In fact the kids who get to 18 and decide education (for whatever reason) are starting to come here and play.

Here no one has an incentive to really develop a player from 10-18. No one benefits. Clubs benefit from volume so they would rather pitch to as many players a possible than reduce the pool by actually making it talent driven. So we have players of all levels training in an environment set up to make all those players comfortable, with no incentive to tell anyone whose check clears they are not good enough UNLESS you already have a replacement.

to call the ECNL or GDA elite and then look at the number of players involved is a joke. no way can they be elite. Go watch a college game. first off now eliminate all the non US trained players. then look at the quality. most of it is awful. Look at the draft. look how many of the college kids cannot actually make the team that drafts them. Why? we are not preparing players to be better. we are just charging kids to be showcased for colleges.

i fully understand why the US system is what it is, but it will never develop the level of players it should within the current system.

1, the USSF coaches and system is broken in so many ways. chicago focus, lack of incentive, lack of talent, too many administrators who have no on field experience

2. no pathway for the very best until they get to College and even then it has an academic overlay

3. No real pro pathway outside the full NT

are three of the many many reasons.

Just accept is for what it is. No one agrees what the bigger picture is let alone working together to achieve it

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why? they are commercial entities and they will be driven by commercial forces. that is the flaw in this whole thing.

In a system that has a profession track at the very top, those entities are driven to get the very best players because they have a reason to. a commercial one. here, there is no single thing that aligns selection with talent.

this fallacy that the YNTs can replace a real professional track is laughable.

quick comparison. In England, if Jane is good enough to play for Chelsea, then she has a choice to make- pro or non pro. if she goes pro, its a constant battle to stay on that track and get a proper education etc. Forget whether you think its a good decision or not. thats the top level and its not in dispute. If you go non pro, then all bets are off. there is no entity in England pretending that they are at that level and charging parents to develop players at that level. In fact the kids who get to 18 and decide education (for whatever reason) are starting to come here and play.

Here no one has an incentive to really develop a player from 10-18. No one benefits. Clubs benefit from volume so they would rather pitch to as many players a possible than reduce the pool by actually making it talent driven. So we have players of all levels training in an environment set up to make all those players comfortable, with no incentive to tell anyone whose check clears they are not good enough UNLESS you already have a replacement.

to call the ECNL or GDA elite and then look at the number of players involved is a joke. no way can they be elite. Go watch a college game. first off now eliminate all the non US trained players. then look at the quality. most of it is awful. Look at the draft. look how many of the college kids cannot actually make the team that drafts them. Why? we are not preparing players to be better. we are just charging kids to be showcased for colleges.

i fully understand why the US system is what it is, but it will never develop the level of players it should within the current system.

1, the USSF coaches and system is broken in so many ways. chicago focus, lack of incentive, lack of talent, too many administrators who have no on field experience

2. no pathway for the very best until they get to College and even then it has an academic overlay

3. No real pro pathway outside the full NT

are three of the many many reasons.

Just accept is for what it is. No one agrees what the bigger picture is let alone working together to achieve it

DUDE I just wanted to wish the NYCFC girls good luck

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DUDE I just wanted to wish the NYCFC girls good luck

Some people just can't help themselves....

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Some people just can't help themselves....

why should clubs care about anything but making money ?

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IDK but if stars allowed our team into ECNL we then would still need to drive for blowouts all over NE. The people in charge in NE region should care more about the kids instead of themselves.

Bigger picture then patches

Exactly. The region does not have enough talent on either the DA or ECNL side. At least with the DA teams the bench isn't 30 players deep.

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I think this region is actually similar to the others in that it can only support one top-tier league. In some Regions, that GDA. In others, it's ECNL.

I disagree completely. This region could've definitely supported both GDA and ECNL if GDA did what they said they were going to do in the beginning. IE-mixed age teams, no HS, full committment from the "elite" players and those close to it, highly licensed coaches, etc.
Instead they handed out badges like candy on Halloween and took any player willing to join.

On LI, if there was only 1 GDA club with mixed age teams and the roster spots were coveted and competitive and then the next level of kids who were *close* in theory filled the 2 ECNL teams, we'd be pretty strong.

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I disagree completely. This region could've definitely supported both GDA and ECNL if GDA did what they said they were going to do in the beginning. IE-mixed age teams, no HS, full committment from the "elite" players and those close to it, highly licensed coaches, etc.
Instead they handed out badges like candy on Halloween and took any player willing to join.

On LI, if there was only 1 GDA club with mixed age teams and the roster spots were coveted and competitive and then the next level of kids who were *close* in theory filled the 2 ECNL teams, we'd be pretty strong.

They tried; ECNL marketing did a better job of it, so they had to lower the standard a bit.

But, no, the standards are not as bad as you make it out to be and it will get better. The Empires and LISC's won't be around long.

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They tried; ECNL marketing did a better job of it, so they had to lower the standard a bit.

But, no, the standards are not as bad as you make it out to be and it will get better. The Empires and LISC's won't be around long.

https://buffalonews.com/2019/04/19/u...-united-girls/

Not long at all...atleast for Empire

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https://buffalonews.com/2019/04/19/u...-united-girls/

Not long at all...atleast for Empire

Another club that never should have been in the system to begin with - not only because it wasn't very strong but the travel to and from that area was ridiculous. Sure you want to capture as much talent as you can, but not at the expense of allowing in so many poor quality clubs and players who aren't up to snuff for a "top" league. USSF wants everyone under one umbrella. But in reality if they'd made GDA half the size to start (they could always expand later) and continue to shop ECNL players outside of metro areas where there wasn't a strong GDA presence none of this would have happened. But they want's it all.

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Another club that never should have been in the system to begin with - not only because it wasn't very strong but the travel to and from that area was ridiculous. Sure you want to capture as much talent as you can, but not at the expense of allowing in so many poor quality clubs and players who aren't up to snuff for a "top" league. USSF wants everyone under one umbrella. But in reality if they'd made GDA half the size to start (they could always expand later) and continue to shop ECNL players outside of metro areas where there wasn't a strong GDA presence none of this would have happened. But they want's it all.

Not necessarily disagreeing...but...we have heard how we aren't getting all the players in the country. So, the way for them to do it is to try to put teams where you can get x% of the population within a "reasonable" drive. When that happens, you have some warts.

Now, they'll drop Empire and the chance there is a very good player there, they are stuck.

Tough position to be in, I think.

I won't miss that drive, to be sure.