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    I am new to soccer but my kid loves it so we started watching Champions League, MNT, WNT, etc. I have to say I thought the WNT would technically be really good since they have been so successful. After watching I thought they really sucked. Only Rapinoe seemed any good. If this is representative of women's soccer than wow, there really is a problem.

    It isn't hard for me to imagine that there must be better players out there than on the WNT. They all can't be that bad. So I am hoping the poster that says the selection process is flawed is correct and eventually it gets fixed. If that isn't the case what the heck is going on with the girls coaches, methods and process?

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      i dont agree. you need to differentiate between tactics and fundamentals. Players can adapt to formations if they have solid fundamentals and decent athleticism
      It's harder for players to adapt to formations that they only play part-time as adults.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        One of the issues with our national team is that our players all grew up playing in different formations and with different standards as to what they were expected to do. This is part of what the DA is supposed to fix but they are failing at doing so.

        For example, try finding a German youth academy that doesn't play a 4-2-3-1 these days. Regardless of the players they have, with rare exception they commit to that formation because that is the preferred formation of the national team. You can take just about any promising youth and stick him on the national team and he will play his position properly and they will instinctively know where their teammates should be on the field despite having never played with them before.
        I kind of disagree with this. The best players IMHO are the ones that have played a wider variety of systems and positions, so that they have a strong understanding of how to play great soccer regardless of the system and the situation. Its rare to see any pro team or national team play the same formation/system 100% of the time. They need to be adaptable. And many of these players on these national teams play in different systems and styles from what they play in their pro teams (eg. Argentina NT vs. Barcelona).

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          I am new to soccer but my kid loves it so we started watching Champions League, MNT, WNT, etc. I have to say I thought the WNT would technically be really good since they have been so successful. After watching I thought they really sucked. Only Rapinoe seemed any good. If this is representative of women's soccer than wow, there really is a problem.

          It isn't hard for me to imagine that there must be better players out there than on the WNT. They all can't be that bad. So I am hoping the poster that says the selection process is flawed is correct and eventually it gets fixed. If that isn't the case what the heck is going on with the girls coaches, methods and process?
          Because the clubs who have developed all the players concentrate on two things:

          1) Wins
          2) College placements


          USSoccer is trying to implement a program which will raise the overall play, but it's met with scorn and resistance at every level. So, yes, we are stuck in the same position we've always been in...trying to win by athleticism because those nurturing the kids are doing a shltty job at it.

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            Ny gda

            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            I am new to soccer but my kid loves it so we started watching Champions League, MNT, WNT, etc. I have to say I thought the WNT would technically be really good since they have been so successful. After watching I thought they really sucked. Only Rapinoe seemed any good. If this is representative of women's soccer than wow, there really is a problem.

            It isn't hard for me to imagine that there must be better players out there than on the WNT. They all can't be that bad. So I am hoping the poster that says the selection process is flawed is correct and eventually it gets fixed. If that isn't the case what the heck is going on with the girls coaches, methods and process?

            if you are new than please .......shut the hell up.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              It's harder for players to adapt to formations that they only play part-time as adults.
              yes. However my only point is that technique and fundamentals come first. In the USA we rush to competitive games and from what i have seen over the last 15 years or so, we dont get that fundamental base in place.

              this is a bigger influence on how we play that the tactics themselves. In fact you could argue that coaches choose tactics that compensate for this, thus limiting the potential of players who may well be ahead technically

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Boys DA has been around for a decade.
                mens and womens soccer are 2 different games.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Because the clubs who have developed all the players concentrate on two things:

                  1) Wins
                  2) College placements


                  USSoccer is trying to implement a program which will raise the overall play, but it's met with scorn and resistance at every level. So, yes, we are stuck in the same position we've always been in...trying to win by athleticism because those nurturing the kids are doing a shltty job at it.
                  it wont as constructed because it relies on Clubs. the only way to change it ( and the way we would change the game here) would be to have those who would benefit from better players - the professional clubs - run it.

                  The problem with that approach is the economics do not currently work.

                  Look at the NWSL draft. a tiny percentage of players drafted actually make their team

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    it wont as constructed because it relies on Clubs. the only way to change it ( and the way we would change the game here) would be to have those who would benefit from better players - the professional clubs - run it.

                    The problem with that approach is the economics do not currently work.

                    Look at the NWSL draft. a tiny percentage of players drafted actually make their team
                    Right, you just answered your own questions. The economics don't work. However, I can also vouch 100% that they do not rely strictly from the coaches. They will ask the coaches for some feedback, either by "who you got?" or "This players looks good, do you agree?". But, they do ask for feedback and follow it.

                    I do find it relatively funny how everyone hates the process, they don't follow it, yet the complain about results put in by another process altogether....

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      mens and womens soccer are 2 different games.
                      Point being BDA has been around for years and while things have improved, the rest of the world has improved at a faster pace. We no longer qualify for international events that we used to qualify for. We need to clean up the women's side and keep ahead of the world, but I have little faith USSF and GDA will get us there.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Right, you just answered your own questions. The economics don't work. However, I can also vouch 100% that they do not rely strictly from the coaches. They will ask the coaches for some feedback, either by "who you got?" or "This players looks good, do you agree?". But, they do ask for feedback and follow it.

                        I do find it relatively funny how everyone hates the process, they don't follow it, yet the complain about results put in by another process altogether....
                        They rely on the club coaches to teach. Thats all that matters. The GDA is NOT a YNT developmental league in spite of what they tell you. It is just another league that started out with some differences BUT has morphed to the ECNL. Why? because parents foot the bill and the ECNL has had a head start in terms of molding itself to the parents wallets.

                        Neither league cares about the so called elite player. They cannot afford to.

                        If the USSF was interested in the best players, they would create a program that sat on top of the ECNL and had dramatically fewer numbers.

                        Part of the illusion is convincing as many parents as possible that Mia is elite.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Point being BDA has been around for years and while things have improved, the rest of the world has improved at a faster pace. We no longer qualify for international events that we used to qualify for. We need to clean up the women's side and keep ahead of the world, but I have little faith USSF and GDA will get us there.
                          Why not give it a shot? We let the other side fvck it up for a decade, now we'll go after the solution provider before they even get started?

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            They rely on the club coaches to teach. Thats all that matters. The GDA is NOT a YNT developmental league in spite of what they tell you. It is just another league that started out with some differences BUT has morphed to the ECNL. Why? because parents foot the bill and the ECNL has had a head start in terms of molding itself to the parents wallets.

                            Neither league cares about the so called elite player. They cannot afford to.

                            If the USSF was interested in the best players, they would create a program that sat on top of the ECNL and had dramatically fewer numbers.

                            Part of the illusion is convincing as many parents as possible that Mia is elite.
                            Why ECNL? They had their chance and look where we are.

                            No thanks. Time for someone else to have a crack at it.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Why ECNL? They had their chance and look where we are.

                              No thanks. Time for someone else to have a crack at it.
                              They are both the same. They cater to the same player. GDA si not going to be any better Im afraid.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                They are both the same. They cater to the same player. GDA si not going to be any better Im afraid.
                                There are differences, quite different actually.

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