Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Ny gda

Collapse
X
  •  
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    [QUOTE=Unregistered;2460088]
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

    Anyone who knowingly wants their daughter to play HS soccer, is an imbecile, and even worse, an idiot.
    Most parents want it because their kids want it. As has been hashed out a million times before HS has benefits GDA doesn't have and vice versa. Now players have options. It isn't helping soccer to dilute the talent so much, but players can at least pick what works best for them. Everyone needs to stop being so judgy. For 99.5% college is the end zone, not a pro career.

    Comment


      Most of the conversations I've had about playing HS soccer is because, like myself, it's what you did growing up. We didn't have all these other options. Everyone talks about how great it was when they played, how much fun, what they learned, etc. There's no malice in that, we draw from our experiences (assuming they were positive), and want the same for our children.

      Some are able to take a step back and realize the world changes; some can't.

      Comment


        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Most of the conversations I've had about playing HS soccer is because, like myself, it's what you did growing up. We didn't have all these other options. Everyone talks about how great it was when they played, how much fun, what they learned, etc. There's no malice in that, we draw from our experiences (assuming they were positive), and want the same for our children.

        Some are able to take a step back and realize the world changes; some can't.
        Yeah that's not judgemental at all.

        Comment


          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Yeah that's not judgemental at all.
          Call it what you want. That's what everyone says "Oh, you can't play HS? That's so sad. That was when I was in my glory."

          No one brings up anything going forward, only their past experiences. Which is normal, it's what we know and what we are comfortable with.

          Comment


            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Yeah that's not judgemental at all.
            Not the OP but that wasn't a judgmental post, it was an accurate description of how different people look at progress, good and bad. Some are ok with the new changes and some cling to how things were in the past.

            I would bet most middle school age kids, who have never played for their school, would prefer to be able to stick with their club teams and play 9-10 month season. These are the kids who are their soccer friends. It is the kids who have done the MS/HS soccer thing that see the value in the social aspect. Also parents see it as important. Especially parents who know their ECNL/DA level kid will go from being one of many in club to being the #1 stud for their school. Many really want that recognition locally and HS offers that. I would not ignore the vanity element to the HS decision.

            Comment


              [QUOTE=Unregistered;2460140]
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

              And yet we all see it over and over, teams like NYSC and Fury get noticeably stronger in the Speinf when their HS players rejoin them. While teams like NYCFC did better in the fall, they are now struggling in the spring
              meaning what? wining games is more about depth than quality.

              Comment


                [QUOTE=Unregistered;2460162]
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

                Most parents want it because their kids want it. As has been hashed out a million times before HS has benefits GDA doesn't have and vice versa. Now players have options. It isn't helping soccer to dilute the talent so much, but players can at least pick what works best for them. Everyone needs to stop being so judgy. For 99.5% college is the end zone, not a pro career.
                please list the benefits that HS has that Club does not. whatever the end goal is, the better you are , the more options you have. This myth that because college is the end goal, the objective changes is nonsense

                Comment


                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Not the OP but that wasn't a judgmental post, it was an accurate description of how different people look at progress, good and bad. Some are ok with the new changes and some cling to how things were in the past.

                  I would bet most middle school age kids, who have never played for their school, would prefer to be able to stick with their club teams and play 9-10 month season. These are the kids who are their soccer friends. It is the kids who have done the MS/HS soccer thing that see the value in the social aspect. Also parents see it as important. Especially parents who know their ECNL/DA level kid will go from being one of many in club to being the #1 stud for their school. Many really want that recognition locally and HS offers that. I would not ignore the vanity element to the HS decision.
                  HS allows more kids too pretend to be stars. Allows more parents to puff out their chests.

                  Comment


                    Ny gda

                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    HS allows more kids too pretend to be stars. Allows more parents to puff out their chests.
                    Interesting article regarding US Soccer "blundering Badly" regarding HS Soccer last year.

                    https://www.socceramerica.com/public...ol-soccer.html

                    Comment


                      [QUOTE=Unregistered;2460192]
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

                      please list the benefits that HS has that Club does not. whatever the end goal is, the better you are , the more options you have. This myth that because college is the end goal, the objective changes is nonsense
                      Not the op...Both leagues offer paths to the same end for girls, college. Every player has their own reasons as well as options based on geography
                      Even if HS isn't a factor (and it isn't for some players) and say a club like an Alby was your only GDA option, but you also had a PDA like ECNL club...what do you pick? Hopefully you pick the one with better coaching. Then you can do HS or train on your own in the fall. Another player may really want HS but knows the local GDA club is superior to the other local clubs so picks GDA.

                      GDA is different in that it's not yet proven in terms of better development or better placement. That may or may not change over time. BDA came out under different circumstances many more years ago, plus has the MLS component. It's much harder to land at a top college program without BDA, but in women's you still can. There's 100 more D1 teams and and far fewer international women taking spots.

                      Comment


                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Interesting article regarding US Soccer "blundering Badly" regarding HS Soccer last year.

                        https://www.socceramerica.com/public...ol-soccer.html
                        SoccerAmerica is an outlet for the Clubs, with ECNL being a big contributor. So, take that for what it's worth.

                        Their points are the same antiquated points already made.

                        Comment


                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          HS allows more kids too pretend to be stars. Allows more parents to puff out their chests.
                          Guess what? Your kid is no star either. As soon as college is over, so is their playing career. NT dreams are just that. It’s like playing lottery thinking you will win so you don’t have save as much. So, have as much fun as possible, before it’s all over.

                          Comment


                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Guess what? Your kid is no star either. As soon as college is over, so is their playing career. NT dreams are just that. It’s like playing lottery thinking you will win so you don’t have save as much. So, have as much fun as possible, before it’s all over.
                            Why does playing HS be a requirement for having fun playing soccer?

                            Comment


                              Ny gda

                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              SoccerAmerica is an outlet for the Clubs, with ECNL being a big contributor. So, take that for what it's worth.

                              Their points are the same antiquated points already made.
                              the article makes very good points....HS can also be a very good marketing machine for you, its not a bad thing when newsday and channel 12 is there and they film and/or write up positives you did durring the game....where are the newspapers and channel 12 for club soccer kids?

                              Comment


                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                the article makes very good points....HS can also be a very good marketing machine for you, its not a bad thing when newsday and channel 12 is there and they film and/or write up positives you did durring the game....where are the newspapers and channel 12 for club soccer kids?
                                Are you expecting exposure from the 6:00 news?

                                What year is this?

                                Comment

                                Previously entered content was automatically saved. Restore or Discard.
                                Auto-Saved
                                x
                                Insert: Thumbnail Small Medium Large Fullsize Remove  
                                x
                                Working...
                                X