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If we're talking about $ spent vs what we get then yes, I didn't really cover that but the fact is we pay a lot more for pretty much everything when compared to European or SA countries. That is a function of living in a capitalist society where people do things as a profession and expect max compensation the market can sustain. Soccer as an industry is not to blame for parents being willing to over pay but the leagues and the clubs gladly reap the rewards.

partly, but not really. we are not debating anything but the system to increase your chances of developing elite players. parents are paying for an illusion if they think thats what they are getting.

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well said...basically we as parents are to blame....we are more than happy to over pay for everything. (same goes for all activities) even buying gasoline for our cars....if the cost went up $2 gallon tomorrow (we will all grumble of course) but we will still pay. same with youth soccer. cant blame the clubs for wanting to take our money, since we are willing to pay.

I dont think anyone is blaming anyone. Just pointing out that our system will not develop players like others will.

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I dont think anyone is blaming anyone. Just pointing out that our system will not develop players like others will.

Until such time we follow the system in place, we'll never know...

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I dont think anyone is blaming anyone. Just pointing out that our system will not develop players like others will.

Lets Put this another way....We are a money/profit (wins/losses) driven society...not a development driven.....there is a big difference.

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Lets Put this another way....We are a money/profit (wins/losses) driven society...not a development driven.....there is a big difference.

I get your point, but....we then can't complain about the National teams if losing if the work isn't followed to make them successful.

Nevermind...people can still complain about anything; even if they are complicit in the results.

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I know a lot of people with a lot of complaints about youth soccer. The success in failure of the NT is not high on the list of issues for families trying to manage the club soccer journey.

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I get your point, but....we then can't complain about the National teams if losing if the work isn't followed to make them successful.

Nevermind...people can still complain about anything; even if they are complicit in the results.

exactly...we will still cont. to pay no matter what.

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I really think that if US soccer wanted to put out the best possible product on the field, they would focus on a way to get the best players in, no matter finances and have a tuition free regional program, where coaches were focusing on the same thing in each region and then taking the beat from each region to funnel into the NT. With GDA and ECNL teams costing approximately $10,000 with everything included, we will never get the best product on the field. This is why the MLS clubs are leaving. They are doing their part to get the best players, but US Soccer isn’t helping

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I really think that if US soccer wanted to put out the best possible product on the field, they would focus on a way to get the best players in, no matter finances and have a tuition free regional program, where coaches were focusing on the same thing in each region and then taking the beat from each region to funnel into the NT. With GDA and ECNL teams costing approximately $10,000 with everything included, we will never get the best product on the field. This is why the MLS clubs are leaving. They are doing their part to get the best players, but US Soccer isn’t helping

cant be done and will never be done....to much ego gets in the way of this happening.
To many leagues competing against each other.

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I really think that if US soccer wanted to put out the best possible product on the field, they would focus on a way to get the best players in, no matter finances and have a tuition free regional program, where coaches were focusing on the same thing in each region and then taking the beat from each region to funnel into the NT. With GDA and ECNL teams costing approximately $10,000 with everything included, we will never get the best product on the field. This is why the MLS clubs are leaving. They are doing their part to get the best players, but US Soccer isn’t helping

No one wants to pay for that. It is expensive for the coaching, travel, facilities, etc. Unfortunately, there is not money at the top of the sport to finance all that.

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exactly...we will still cont. to pay no matter what.

and bltch about it after

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and bltch about it after

But most are complaining that it is way too costly in dollars and travel, not that it is not producing pro players. There is only one player in thousands and thousands that will intend to pursue woman's professional soccer.

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But most are complaining that it is way too costly in dollars and travel, not that it is not producing pro players. There is only one player in thousands and thousands that will intend to pursue woman's professional soccer.

Those are not the target market then and not relative to this discussion.

If you are talented, there is a path to be found and there is even a path to help with those costs.

No reason why the same path can't be used and the cream rises to the crop.

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Do you mean the target market for the gda is aspiring NT players? I don't see that personally. There a small number of NT level players and the chances that the ones with the talent and drive to ultimately triumph will coincidentally be the same ones in the right locations with the right size bank accounts and with the personal travel assistants available for service seem pretty iffy.

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Do you mean the target market for the gda is aspiring NT players? I don't see that personally. There a small number of NT level players and the chances that the ones with the talent and drive to ultimately triumph will coincidentally be the same ones in the right locations with the right size bank accounts and with the personal travel assistants available for service seem pretty iffy.

I said the pathway, but that assumes people want to follow the path vs. complain about the results when not participating after.

People complain about how it's 'watered down' - but how else to find every player unless you put some clubs in an area to find them?

People complain they don't get the best players - but they can't make clubs, and by extension parents, to buy in because they are bragging about the wins and losses only.

Money is and will always be a problem, but there are scholarships available and I can guarantee you if there was a true NT level player, any club would find a way to take them on.

All can be overcome, and the system is already here to do it. But, instead, we'll have pages upon pages from clubs/members posting about all the ills about the system. Then, they'll turn around and say we need the same system....