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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Not sure who you are asking, but I will chime in. if GDA fails in the NE then we all fail as a country, in that we will never be competitive internationally. Some don’t give a rat’s ass about that, if so, then you are not real soccer fans, as most American’s. Soccer is in my blood, and playing against other countries is really important, if you don’t get that then you should go back to softball.
    Why support a failure of a program? GDA was never about development or what is best for being competitive internationally. They didn't address the issues with other options and instead made travel and cost continue to be a large part of the equation. If USSF had done it right then maybe some of us would be sad. Otherwise, we all just feel like we've been guinea pigs.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      College can be the end goal and we can be successful. 99.99% of girls are not thinking NT. What would be great is if the trends toward technical and tactical soccer internationally can include certain the DA and ECNL here so that we improve the quality of what we see on field and have that make its way to college. Top teams need to stop relying on glorified kick ball, which is why most ncaa women’s soccer teams play.
      which top teams rely on glorified kick ball ?

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Why support a failure of a program? GDA was never about development or what is best for being competitive internationally. They didn't address the issues with other options and instead made travel and cost continue to be a large part of the equation. If USSF had done it right then maybe some of us would be sad. Otherwise, we all just feel like we've been guinea pigs.
        Bad take. its not about what the GDA was or is. Its about how each Club implements its training no matter what league they are in. The ONLY reason Kaz went GDA was to get more access to players for development because there was and still is demand for that OUTSIDE of HS. Yes, some players do not want to do HS soccer. The way he trains players will not change no matter the sign on the shingle.

        My daughter never cared what league she played games in and it made no difference to her College or YNT prospects. More training time with a good coach was the difference maker.

        people going back and forth on the league are missing the point.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Bad take. its not about what the GDA was or is. Its about how each Club implements its training no matter what league they are in. The ONLY reason Kaz went GDA was to get more access to players for development because there was and still is demand for that OUTSIDE of HS. Yes, some players do not want to do HS soccer. The way he trains players will not change no matter the sign on the shingle.

          My daughter never cared what league she played games in and it made no difference to her College or YNT prospects. More training time with a good coach was the difference maker.

          people going back and forth on the league are missing the point.
          The gda is trying very hard to make the league the point just as the ecnl does.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Why support a failure of a program? GDA was never about development or what is best for being competitive internationally. They didn't address the issues with other options and instead made travel and cost continue to be a large part of the equation. If USSF had done it right then maybe some of us would be sad. Otherwise, we all just feel like we've been guinea pigs.
            whatever the USSF did, they are NOT coaching the players on a daily basis. people seem to dismiss the most important piece in all of this - WHO IS COACHING? Are they an in game person? A talent developer? A recruiter?

            this take about the USSF getting it right falls apart if the coaching is poor.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              The gda is trying very hard to make the league the point just as the ecnl does.
              and how exactly can they do that to educated parents ? Or maybe thats the issue.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                whatever the USSF did, they are NOT coaching the players on a daily basis. people seem to dismiss the most important piece in all of this - WHO IS COACHING? Are they an in game person? A talent developer? A recruiter?

                this take about the USSF getting it right falls apart if the coaching is poor.
                Most if the coaching is not great quality with few exceptions. What great coach aspires to teach spoiled kids and deal with their overbearing parents?

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  and how exactly can they do that to educated parents ? Or maybe thats the issue.
                  Partly. League overkill exposed the whole industry for the money maker it is. Everyone is pretty jaded by the time the a player needs to choose a deluxe option. I thin the marketing is seen as marketing and is largely ignored.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Bad take. its not about what the GDA was or is. Its about how each Club implements its training no matter what league they are in. The ONLY reason Kaz went GDA was to get more access to players for development because there was and still is demand for that OUTSIDE of HS. Yes, some players do not want to do HS soccer. The way he trains players will not change no matter the sign on the shingle.

                    My daughter never cared what league she played games in and it made no difference to her College or YNT prospects. More training time with a good coach was the difference maker.

                    people going back and forth on the league are missing the point.
                    There's nothing wrong with good coaching, but I'm not giving USSF a pass for implementing a poor program. You NYCFC people are the exception, not the rule. USSF made the situation worse, not better for most of us in the NY Metro area. Instead of having better programs to choose amongst, we instead had to pay more money to the club and more money in travel. It isn't about ECNL vs. GDA either. ECNL is far from perfect. But USSF had a chance to do something better. That they did not do -- instead they just copied it.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      There's nothing wrong with good coaching, but I'm not giving USSF a pass for implementing a poor program. You NYCFC people are the exception, not the rule. USSF made the situation worse, not better for most of us in the NY Metro area. Instead of having better programs to choose amongst, we instead had to pay more money to the club and more money in travel. It isn't about ECNL vs. GDA either. ECNL is far from perfect. But USSF had a chance to do something better. That they did not do -- instead they just copied it.
                      Yes and why? Because it is more about crushing that organization then offering something good. No fan of ECNL but the gda is no better at all around here for the most part. The reality of the gda aound here was disappointing because people really wanted there to be better options

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        There's nothing wrong with good coaching, but I'm not giving USSF a pass for implementing a poor program. You NYCFC people are the exception, not the rule. USSF made the situation worse, not better for most of us in the NY Metro area. Instead of having better programs to choose amongst, we instead had to pay more money to the club and more money in travel. It isn't about ECNL vs. GDA either. ECNL is far from perfect. But USSF had a chance to do something better. That they did not do -- instead they just copied it.
                        Thanks, we are happy being the exception...

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Yes and why? Because it is more about crushing that organization then offering something good. No fan of ECNL but the gda is no better at all around here for the most part. The reality of the gda aound here was disappointing because people really wanted there to be better options
                          So true. Instead of being more manageable and inclusive , it made the soccer less manageable. Longer showcases and further away. More missed school. Very high fees instead of more affordable. Thanks a lot.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            So true. Instead of being more manageable and inclusive , it made the soccer less manageable. Longer showcases and further away. More missed school. Very high fees instead of more affordable. Thanks a lot.
                            Same exact **** with ECNL and NL, stop moaping

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                              Spoken a true member of the bloated youth soccer industry. This is ts. It exists for moping. Get back to running some very average and overpriced soccer organization for kids.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                So true. Instead of being more manageable and inclusive , it made the soccer less manageable. Longer showcases and further away. More missed school. Very high fees instead of more affordable. Thanks a lot.
                                So tired of hearing the same BS argument. As someone who has a daughter who has been in the ECNL and GDA I can tell you the cost is almost identical. (With the exception of Fury and Alby Fury which are both so much more).

                                The travel is almost identical, they both go to Florida for a showcase. In fact since the ECNL play more games, the travel expenses are probably more. The travel distance is also similar. I found that my daughter had more time for social activities since she didn't have to play two games every weekend.

                                Neither league is perfect, it depends on the club whether or not the training and atmosphere is productive.

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