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If you want to train in the fall, why not just play for a GDA club since that league is already established? Why do we need yet another league? There are too many leagues already.

Because GDA is pretty awful across the board and a failed experiment. US Soccer doesnt know what they are doing and my town's rec board does a better job.

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Because GDA is pretty awful across the board and a failed experiment. US Soccer doesnt know what they are doing and my town's rec board does a better job.

It cant possibly be worse then yet another new league., If they launch another new league we should all quit this stinking pile of crap.

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Because GDA is pretty awful across the board and a failed experiment. US Soccer doesnt know what they are doing and my town's rec board does a better job.

Cheerleaders? Only cheerleader here seems to be you Most of us have equal disdain for all these leagues and they all deserve it. We just pick one and play. No one is cheering any of this garbage except for ones profiting.

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And, I'll note, commentary like that really doesn't do anyone any good. Like DA, or don't like them, nobody with any ounce of seriousness could make a statement that the town rec board does a better job than USSF.

Conversations just break down in this case.

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The monniker "ECNL2" will never fly then, as no one wants to be what is labelled as the B league. A better solution that would not disrupt the current ECNL would be to just create a multi-age division for the fall that allowed clubs to field a team or 2 in that season for those players that don't want high school. Then, those players can rejoin their age-based teams in regular ECNL for the remainder of the year. The clubs have a real offering and ECNL remains the top league. Trying to do both ECNL and ECNL2 year round will still cause confusion and dilution of players.

This is what I got from the whole ECNL vs ECNL2 from a insider with KNOWLEDGE of what they are talking about and will only be either revealed and discuss in the upcoming week leading up the meeting out in Arizona I believe. Basically the ECNL2 would be what the NPL is now. The only draw back to it would be competition level and level of teams. Note they just don't want to throw something together for the sake of throwing it together. Also if I understood correctly more teams are leaving GDA and coming to ECNL which will be announced also and NYCFC is pulling out and morphing into WC. In my opinion NYCFC is WC just with another name on the jersey. We discussed the boys side also and about the MLS clubs pulling out and some other clubs thinking about it as well that are not MLS clubs.

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And, I'll note, commentary like that really doesn't do anyone any good. Like DA, or don't like them, nobody with any ounce of seriousness could make a statement that the town rec board does a better job than USSF.

Conversations just break down in this case.

They may well appear to be better. managing a town is easy. managing a country this size is not. No dog in this fight, but what the ECNL has done is nowhere near as hard as what the USSF have attempted.

Trying to educate a largely ignorant client base is really hard. Parents pay. The ECNL is all about marketing to them. Telling a parent that what you have been doing all along is not optimal is a really hard task especially given that the majority of players will never see any tangible benefit from what the GDA advocated unless they put in a ton more work.

most parents time line is pretty short and they just dont have the incentive to take any risks.

all it means is that the ECNL can cater to parents and USSF cant. Then the USSF get caught in a compromise because they need a certain level of coverage and boom- it all falls apart.

the ECNL is not a great place for a kid who really takes this seriously and has elite ability/potential. The GDA isnt either because its been compromised to death.

Bottom line, the Womens youth soccer industry is about volume and the lack of pro academies (real) means that no one has any incentive to really develop top line talent until the College coach gets them. he /she does because jobs are on the line - even then the goal there is to win, even if it means using a fraction of a players potential to do so. At UNC, the system is the star.

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They may well appear to be better. managing a town is easy. managing a country this size is not. No dog in this fight, but what the ECNL has done is nowhere near as hard as what the USSF have attempted.

Trying to educate a largely ignorant client base is really hard. Parents pay. The ECNL is all about marketing to them. Telling a parent that what you have been doing all along is not optimal is a really hard task especially given that the majority of players will never see any tangible benefit from what the GDA advocated unless they put in a ton more work.

most parents time line is pretty short and they just dont have the incentive to take any risks.

all it means is that the ECNL can cater to parents and USSF cant. Then the USSF get caught in a compromise because they need a certain level of coverage and boom- it all falls apart.

the ECNL is not a great place for a kid who really takes this seriously and has elite ability/potential. The GDA isnt either because its been compromised to death.

Bottom line, the Womens youth soccer industry is about volume and the lack of pro academies (real) means that no one has any incentive to really develop top line talent until the College coach gets them. he /she does because jobs are on the line - even then the goal there is to win, even if it means using a fraction of a players potential to do so. At UNC, the system is the star.

I thought GDA was fine in some regions. This seems to be a NE issue.

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What is this ECNL2 that everyone keeps mentioning? Is that similar to the current NE Girls NPL but rebranded?

My guess (which is probably as good as anybody here's guess) is that ECNL2 is the same concept as NE Girls NPL extended to all regions. It's a league for ECNL clubs to put their "B" teams and leverage the same management/scheduling system.

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My guess (which is probably as good as anybody here's guess) is that ECNL2 is the same concept as NE Girls NPL extended to all regions. It's a league for ECNL clubs to put their "B" teams and leverage the same management/scheduling system.

and the same oppressive travel schedule. sounds great.

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So instead of the governing body ruling, ECNL rules by committee of the current teams?

If a new team wanted to apply for ECNL, they have to ask the current teams if they can join? Why would any current team ever say yes to a new registrant and how did SUSA manage to get in?

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So instead of the governing body ruling, ECNL rules by committee of the current teams?

If a new team wanted to apply for ECNL, they have to ask the current teams if they can join? Why would any current team ever say yes to a new registrant and how did SUSA manage to get in?

I'm sure there are some nitty-gritty details that I don't have, but I can tell you that our club is a DA club, but that is mostly through lack of other options. They tried for years to get into ECNL but were not allowed. It's actually the hidden reason why some dropped out and went deeper into ECNL. Always follow the money.

There are like 5-6 (?) clubs that make up the board and leadership. They have zero incentive to bring in DA teams. Could you imagine if they expanded, and weren't their own clubs weren't considered "the best"?


Yeeeesh.

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I thought GDA was fine in some regions. This seems to be a NE issue.

GDA is not a regional league. If any region is failing then its failing

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GDA is not a regional league. If any region is failing then its failing

Disagree. Some regions are strong and are not failing.

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I'm sure there are some nitty-gritty details that I don't have, but I can tell you that our club is a DA club, but that is mostly through lack of other options. They tried for years to get into ECNL but were not allowed. It's actually the hidden reason why some dropped out and went deeper into ECNL. Always follow the money.

There are like 5-6 (?) clubs that make up the board and leadership. They have zero incentive to bring in DA teams. Could you imagine if they expanded, and weren't their own clubs weren't considered "the best"?


Yeeeesh.

NYSC tried to apply a few years ago but between WCFC and CFC that was never gonna happen. Why would they let a new team in when they had the badge and could steal the top players looking for exposure? As you said its always the $$$.

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I'm sure there are some nitty-gritty details that I don't have, but I can tell you that our club is a DA club, but that is mostly through lack of other options. They tried for years to get into ECNL but were not allowed. It's actually the hidden reason why some dropped out and went deeper into ECNL. Always follow the money.

There are like 5-6 (?) clubs that make up the board and leadership. They have zero incentive to bring in DA teams. Could you imagine if they expanded, and weren't their own clubs weren't considered "the best"?


Yeeeesh.

the clubs you mention are not the best now by many metrics that measure development. they carefully steer the metrics to stuff that is mostly a function of volume. Its all about managing the parents expectations. keep telling them that College placements, HS awards, All xyz honors of other peoples kids are relevant to you. If you have more teams, if you poach your rivals better players , getting them to drive by good training environments to go to yours, you win the PR war. No one ever goes back and looks at how things worked out

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NYSC tried to apply a few years ago but between WCFC and CFC that was never gonna happen. Why would they let a new team in when they had the badge and could steal the top players looking for exposure? As you said its always the $$$.

That is the business model. If it is not exclusive then what are they selling? GDA launch exposed all this nonsense but that is still the business model. IF GDA just allows HS and manages the travel better, - they will be able to compete just fine.