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Sorry to be so cynical but having been at this for a while...follow the money. Do that and the disaster that is girls youth soccer makes sense.

In its inaugural year,NYCFC did fairly well in all age groups. The tryouts for the first year were large and it attracted players from all over. This 2018-19 season, it was very different. Tryouts were minimal. I was at a few of the tryouts for the youngest team where it was my daughter and 4 coaches. Our teamsnap account had 11 players listed until late August
I just don’t think there is enough interest to sustain a quality league. As parents we have to be honest with the current landscape of soccer. The east coast can not support both GDA and ECNL. Just the facts

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In its inaugural year,NYCFC did fairly well in all age groups. The tryouts for the first year were large and it attracted players from all over. This 2018-19 season, it was very different. Tryouts were minimal. I was at a few of the tryouts for the youngest team where it was my daughter and 4 coaches. Our teamsnap account had 11 players listed until late August
I just don’t think there is enough interest to sustain a quality league. As parents we have to be honest with the current landscape of soccer. The east coast can not support both GDA and ECNL. Just the facts

Boys side has no problems attracting hundreds of interested players because the fees and travel are subsidized.

High end product on the girls side has priced itself out of the market. There is plenty of interest in soccer but only limited interest in overpriced leagues that require way too much expensive travel and missed school. There is enough interest and wealth to support one league like that but probably not two. One needs to go. Could care less which one.

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In its inaugural year,NYCFC did fairly well in all age groups. The tryouts for the first year were large and it attracted players from all over. This 2018-19 season, it was very different. Tryouts were minimal. I was at a few of the tryouts for the youngest team where it was my daughter and 4 coaches. Our teamsnap account had 11 players listed until late August
I just don’t think there is enough interest to sustain a quality league. As parents we have to be honest with the current landscape of soccer. The east coast can not support both GDA and ECNL. Just the facts

That is 100% true, but NYCFC has done nothing to support the girls side, not this season anyway. Last year they helped spread the word, and assisted in promotion, this year *crickets*...ugh. People write about following the money, about ECNL mafia, and about the dear leader parting ways, but who really knows??

The future is uncertain, and the end is always near...let it roll.

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That is 100% true, but NYCFC has done nothing to support the girls side, not this season anyway. Last year they helped spread the word, and assisted in promotion, this year *crickets*...ugh. People write about following the money, about ECNL mafia, and about the dear leader parting ways, but who really knows??

The future is uncertain, and the end is always near...let it roll.

if you know the people concerned, marketing was never a strong point. NYCFC should either own the program or get out. They added a name and thats about it. I think DD is/was the person in charge of marketing.

marketing should not be an issue. there should be an established heirarchy and players should be encouraged to follow that path IF talented enough. The US system is all about $$ and less about making sure talent is given the best chance to succeed

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That is 100% true, but NYCFC has done nothing to support the girls side, not this season anyway. Last year they helped spread the word, and assisted in promotion, this year *crickets*...ugh. People write about following the money, about ECNL mafia, and about the dear leader parting ways, but who really knows??

The future is uncertain, and the end is always near...let it roll.

Only way to save GDA is to make it free to play, or at least heavily subsidized. Otherwise, very little reason to pay all that money, travel to play weak competition in the NE, and give up HS soccer. The "national team" carrot is nice, but USSF will be forced to take girls from ECNL again (given that many top clubs have left GDA).....and once current GDA players see that, they may decide to go back to ECNL. This whole GDA thing was poorly thought out.

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if you know the people concerned, marketing was never a strong point. NYCFC should either own the program or get out. They added a name and thats about it. I think DD is/was the person in charge of marketing.

marketing should not be an issue. there should be an established heirarchy and players should be encouraged to follow that path IF talented enough. The US system is all about $$ and less about making sure talent is given the best chance to succeed

You seem to want the system to be driven by talent but that is simply not the driver on the girls side. Look at where the money comes from that controls this system. Most of it comes from the parents bank accounts on the girls side. Understand that and you can understand the landscape.

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You seem to want the system to be driven by talent but that is simply not the driver on the girls side. Look at where the money comes from that controls this system. Most of it comes from the parents bank accounts on the girls side. Understand that and you can understand the landscape.

it should be the driver of any elite sporting endeavor. that is the problem as i see it. I understand the landscape. trying to provide all things to as many players as possible for as much $$ as possible. To do that, you have to redfine what elite is. the way womens soccer does it is to tell hundreds of average players they are elite. One of the big pluses of HS soccer for the ECNL is it allows many more players to go away and have success/receive awards that validate their eliteness. its a much harder sell when jane cannot get on the field or is ineffective vs better players.

there should be many layers in any sport. nothing is stopping any league from catering to mid level players, but no one wants to admit that is what they are doing because that may well impact the ability to charge as much as they do.

Both leagues are full of mediocre players. the leagues exist to make money off them. neither league helps the very best players much. there are very few of them to begin with and many get ground down by playing too much under pressure to deliver results for the benefit of the club they play for.

i read a comment here talking about the leadership of certain players. My take away was, are you kidding? I bet the parent making that comment heard a one sided account to form the opinion and lastly, why would you expect any kid to lead? the very best players in these environments are expected to do things to benefit everyone else, but not themselves.

the landscape i get, my point is it does not have to be that way.

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Only way to save GDA is to make it free to play, or at least heavily subsidized. Otherwise, very little reason to pay all that money, travel to play weak competition in the NE, and give up HS soccer. The "national team" carrot is nice, but USSF will be forced to take girls from ECNL again (given that many top clubs have left GDA).....and once current GDA players see that, they may decide to go back to ECNL. This whole GDA thing was poorly thought out.

Hypothetically, lets make it free for any kid who we believe has the ability/potential to be a starter on a D1 top 50 team as a freshman.

How many players in the NE are worth making it free for across all age groups? 50? MAX.

you have to define what success is. If the GDA is about improving high potential players then they need to accept that most clubs will struggle to have 18 of those across ALL age groups. the ECNL already have the mid level player mkt sewn up so either do something different or dont bother.

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Hypothetically, lets make it free for any kid who we believe has the ability/potential to be a starter on a D1 top 50 team as a freshman.

How many players in the NE are worth making it free for across all age groups? 50? MAX.

you have to define what success is. If the GDA is about improving high potential players then they need to accept that most clubs will struggle to have 18 of those across ALL age groups. the ECNL already have the mid level player mkt sewn up so either do something different or dont bother.

Why do you keep saying that is what the GDA is about? You need to separate the marketing BS from reality. GDA is set up to compete against the ECNL. This is business. The ECNL makes the same BS marketing claims as does every business trying to sell you a product.

Understand what is being sold here and stop wishing yo could buy a product that does not exist. There is no money to be made is selling what you keep describing so no one will do it.

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Why do you keep saying that is what the GDA is about? You need to separate the marketing BS from reality. GDA is set up to compete against the ECNL. This is business. The ECNL makes the same BS marketing claims as does every business trying to sell you a product.

Understand what is being sold here and stop wishing yo could buy a product that does not exist. There is no money to be made is selling what you keep describing so no one will do it.

There is plenty of money made training elite athletes. completing vs the ECNL is pointless.

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Why do you keep saying that is what the GDA is about? You need to separate the marketing BS from reality. GDA is set up to compete against the ECNL. This is business. The ECNL makes the same BS marketing claims as does every business trying to sell you a product.

Understand what is being sold here and stop wishing yo could buy a product that does not exist. There is no money to be made is selling what you keep describing so no one will do it.

and i said IF.......

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if you know the people concerned, marketing was never a strong point. NYCFC should either own the program or get out. They added a name and thats about it. I think DD is/was the person in charge of marketing.

marketing should not be an issue. there should be an established heirarchy and players should be encouraged to follow that path IF talented enough. The US system is all about $$ and less about making sure talent is given the best chance to succeed

I don't think you can entirely blame NYCFC for lower interest this year. There's less interest in GDA overall, especially in the NE. The league is not meeting expectations and there's still some uncertainty, along with stiff ECNL competition. That said they should have worked harder at trying to bring in some of the top players from other clubs. If players want GDA then they should want the best club they can play for. around here there aren't many worth playing for.

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Only way to save GDA is to make it free to play, or at least heavily subsidized. Otherwise, very little reason to pay all that money, travel to play weak competition in the NE, and give up HS soccer. The "national team" carrot is nice, but USSF will be forced to take girls from ECNL again (given that many top clubs have left GDA).....and once current GDA players see that, they may decide to go back to ECNL. This whole GDA thing was poorly thought out.

It won't ever happen. There's no money in women's soccer to support it. Even USSF only gave some token $ to scholarships. Many MLS clubs would love to not be in the business of boy's youth soccer but have no choice. What they do have is RDS and camps to help cover a good portion of their expenses, as well as the possibility of developing home grown players. It's a totally different animal vs women's soccer. Clubs certainly won't take a real hit to the bottom line. Why should they if parents are willing to pay?

Net conclusion is two so-called top leagues is one league too many.

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I don't think you can entirely blame NYCFC for lower interest this year. There's less interest in GDA overall, especially in the NE. The league is not meeting expectations and there's still some uncertainty, along with stiff ECNL competition. That said they should have worked harder at trying to bring in some of the top players from other clubs. If players want GDA then they should want the best club they can play for. around here there aren't many worth playing for.

Bull****, NYCFC lied to our faces last year, that Douche VP told us that they were fully behind the GDA, liars. I hope they never find a stadium, I hope they collapse, which isn’t as remote as you might think. Go NYRB!!!

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Bull****, NYCFC lied to our faces last year, that Douche VP told us that they were fully behind the GDA, liars. I hope they never find a stadium, I hope they collapse, which isn’t as remote as you might think. Go NYRB!!!

What exactly did NYCFC promise and not deliver regarding the GDA program? Please specify.