Ny gda

[Unregistered]

Sorries, bad grammar cannot afford to keep him around.

Glad we went back to East Meadow

[Unregistered]

Looks like Izzy is out with Fury, his name has been removed from the coaches masthead

[Unregistered]

Looks like Izzy is out with Fury, his name has been removed from the coaches masthead

Very happy to see this is true

[Unregistered]

Let's talk about how cranky all the ECNL parents are in here. Common ECNL whiny parent statements:

The substitution rules stink - whhaaaa

or

The DA wants to be just like the ECNL - whhaaa

or

The NE DA is terrible. They can't even beat teams from other states - whhaaa

or

The DA makes you do all that travel - whhaaaa

I have yet to hear an NE ECNL parent talk about the teams they have faced and won that are formidable or comparable to the superior "talent" they claim to have.

I'll wait....SUSA? EMSC? WC?

[Unregistered]

There are plenty of DA parents that feel somewhat duped by the league itself. Add on the implementation by local clubs (Fury, in particular, with no fields and poor coaching) makes it a double whammy.

[Unregistered]

There are plenty of DA parents that feel somewhat duped by the league itself. Add on the implementation by local clubs (Fury, in particular, with no fields and poor coaching) makes it a double whammy.

They were warned. Much of this was predicted.

[Unregistered]

There are plenty of DA parents that feel somewhat duped by the league itself. Add on the implementation by local clubs (Fury, in particular, with no fields and poor coaching) makes it a double whammy.

Exactly. It is not ECNL parents that are complaining about GDA. They have their own league to complain about. It is GDA parents.

[Unregistered]

Exactly. It is not ECNL parents that are complaining about GDA. They have their own league to complain about. It is GDA parents.

Wrong. It's mostly the ECNL parents, hoping to somehow make their league look better. It's not working.

[Unregistered]

Wrong. It's mostly the ECNL parents, hoping to somehow make their league look better. It's not working.

Doubt it. Both these leagues are very flawed and the parents know it

[Unregistered]

[QUOTE=Unregistered;2397939]Wrong. It's mostly the ECNL parents, hoping to somehow make their league look better. It's not working.[/QUOTE
I happy you are having a great experience! However, there are people who are not happy. Except it. We were told a lot of lies and promises that have not been kept. Our daughters coach was just removed from her team with notice from the club. It is a mess

[Unregistered]

Wrong. It's mostly the ECNL parents, hoping to somehow make their league look better. It's not working.

GDA looks bad on all its own. Many feel they were sold a defective product, yet as someone said a lot of this was predicted. USSF had different ways they could have rolled this out

- The obvious mistake was not doing GDA when they started BDA. That left the door open for ECNL. An impetus to finally start it was the NT lawsuit about unequal treatment and everyone knew it.
- Could have started with the younger players, taught them how they want players to be trained, prove themselves, and build from there. Too many players in the heart of ECNL - the HS/recruiting years - weren't willing to take a chance on something new. If they did U12-U15 then there's also no HS decision to be made. Get them in the system young and make it so good they don't want to leave.
- Could have started with 1-2 regions (CA, TX preferably) and proven themselves. If you create demand then others want to join, clubs and players alike
- They underestimated the pull of HS soccer for girls. They assumed everyone would flock over like with the boys. But when BDA started there wasn't an ECNL-like competitor offering what players were perfectly happy with.
- They blew it with the HS rule by first not allowing it, then allowing it, then pulling it again this year. Not only do they look like buffoons but allowing it last year left it ripe for abuse. It ignited a lot of controversy, and they still haven't sufficiently squashed the abuse.
- Allowed too many poor quality clubs in the system. Then once several top national clubs left they backfilled with even weaker ones. You can't claim to be all about quality and have clubs like Empire in the system
- Put too much emphasis on the NT track. The vast majority of players know they're not NT material and only care about college. There's also no pro path that girls care about like there is in BDA.
- Copied BDA. There are clear issues with BDA and they could have used this chance to do something different. Copy/paste isn't always the best way to go.
- Should have made more of an effort to reduce costs. There are no free MLS clubs to play for and the fees at most clubs are the same as or only somewhat lower than ECNL. Most soccer families can afford the small price difference if they think their other options better fit their needs. Clubs can only do so much to lower fees; USSF could have done more to subsidize
- Getting rid of the organizational head less than a year after roll out also isn't a good look

Any one point isn't necessarily fatal but in combination it potentially is. The patient can still recover. But they have to show people something the rest of this year or you're going to see more clubs and players leave. Clubs are businesses - they'll do what their customers want. Granted it's only rumors, but if more solid clubs like NYCFC or NEFC were to leave? The system can't sustain many more body blows.

[Unregistered]

GDA looks bad on all its own. Many feel they were sold a defective product, yet as someone said a lot of this was predicted. USSF had different ways they could have rolled this out

- The obvious mistake was not doing GDA when they started BDA. That left the door open for ECNL. An impetus to finally start it was the NT lawsuit about unequal treatment and everyone knew it.
- Could have started with the younger players, taught them how they want players to be trained, prove themselves, and build from there. Too many players in the heart of ECNL - the HS/recruiting years - weren't willing to take a chance on something new. If they did U12-U15 then there's also no HS decision to be made. Get them in the system young and make it so good they don't want to leave.
- Could have started with 1-2 regions (CA, TX preferably) and proven themselves. If you create demand then others want to join, clubs and players alike
- They underestimated the pull of HS soccer for girls. They assumed everyone would flock over like with the boys. But when BDA started there wasn't an ECNL-like competitor offering what players were perfectly happy with.
- They blew it with the HS rule by first not allowing it, then allowing it, then pulling it again this year. Not only do they look like buffoons but allowing it last year left it ripe for abuse. It ignited a lot of controversy, and they still haven't sufficiently squashed the abuse.
- Allowed too many poor quality clubs in the system. Then once several top national clubs left they backfilled with even weaker ones. You can't claim to be all about quality and have clubs like Empire in the system
- Put too much emphasis on the NT track. The vast majority of players know they're not NT material and only care about college. There's also no pro path that girls care about like there is in BDA.
- Copied BDA. There are clear issues with BDA and they could have used this chance to do something different. Copy/paste isn't always the best way to go.
- Should have made more of an effort to reduce costs. There are no free MLS clubs to play for and the fees at most clubs are the same as or only somewhat lower than ECNL. Most soccer families can afford the small price difference if they think their other options better fit their needs. Clubs can only do so much to lower fees; USSF could have done more to subsidize
- Getting rid of the organizational head less than a year after roll out also isn't a good look

Any one point isn't necessarily fatal but in combination it potentially is. The patient can still recover. But they have to show people something the rest of this year or you're going to see more clubs and players leave. Clubs are businesses - they'll do what their customers want. Granted it's only rumors, but if more solid clubs like NYCFC or NEFC were to leave? The system can't sustain many more body blows.

Good points. I mean overall you don’t hear teams leaving ECNL, but you do hear it the other way around. That’s really all you need to know about what’s going on.

[Unregistered]

I don't understand, if you are DA parents who feel duped, what do you get out of trashing the league online? Are you concerned because your mediocre player doesn't get enough playing time? Ok, so long. ECNL has nice lengthy rosters for you and great sub rules so all 30 players can get their shine! Yay! She also has choices like Team A, B or C. However don't be concerned when she ends up on team C because as the ECNL club will tell you - they are all equal.

Good luck on finding your happiness - I mean, your daughter's happiness!

[Unregistered]

If NYCFC leaves the GDA, where do they go? Does the whole team disband and the players go back to other local clubs like Manhattan, WC or NYSC? Would World Class be like PDA and field two ECNL teams?

[Unregistered]

I don't understand, if you are DA parents who feel duped, what do you get out of trashing the league online? Are you concerned because your mediocre player doesn't get enough playing time? Ok, so long. ECNL has nice lengthy rosters for you and great sub rules so all 30 players can get their shine! Yay! She also has choices like Team A, B or C. However don't be concerned when she ends up on team C because as the ECNL club will tell you - they are all equal.

Good luck on finding your happiness - I mean, your daughter's happiness!

Good one! I am the famous NYCFC Dad that has been thrashed here, and on BOTN, same guy probably, he hates that my kid is better than his, actually he simply refuses to believe it, even though every time we play NYSC they lose, this toll always jumps on me as gloating. Here is my inside track to this, and I would know as well as anyone, or better.

WCFC as a club, their coaches and families, cannot stand the GDA coaches and families. Strange, but over 50% are former WCFC players, so you would think there would be some commonality, some basic empathy, nope. They hate us, and we hate them, that’s about it, as I will not detail the occurrences of between the two. If NYCFC does disband, or rebrand to WCFC2, pretty sure that neither side wants to merge the players, because none of the families respect the other, even if they do say hello, and way to each other at practices.