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No money in that so forget it. This is what soccer looks like in a free market financed by youth players.

All fine and dandy, but not sure how it's relevant. Whichever country club league that was in existence for the past 10 years and responsible for the development of players today has done a **** job at it.

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All fine and dandy, but not sure how it's relevant. Whichever country club league that was in existence for the past 10 years and responsible for the development of players today has done a **** job at it.

You don't know that. They can only work with the players in the country club pool. If we were working with big fish from a big pond, we could do better then with the big fish from the small pond. France apparently takes their big fish from the big pond.

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You don't know that. They can only work with the players in the country club pool. If we were working with big fish from a big pond, we could do better then with the big fish from the small pond. France apparently takes their big fish from the big pond.

All you and I know is that the leagues responsible for developing players over the last 10 years did a **** job at it.

We can talk about hypotheticals and players who may or may not exist all we want, but that doesn't change the reality of the past.

I'm not talking about what to do going forward, I'm talking about what the least 10 years provided us...and it's pure ****.

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All you and I know is that the leagues responsible for developing players over the last 10 years did a **** job at it.

We can talk about hypotheticals and players who may or may not exist all we want, but that doesn't change the reality of the past.

I'm not talking about what to do going forward, I'm talking about what the least 10 years provided us...and it's pure ****.

You are frustrated because you want the goal of the system to be successful international competition but that is not the goal of our current system. Our system idoes not incentivise going out and finding and devloping the best soccer talent. That is not where our financial incentives lie as they do in other places.

If you look at what our system in light of what it is designed to do, you won't be so disappointed.

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You are frustrated because you want the goal of the system to be successful international competition but that is not the goal of our current system. Our system idoes not incentivise going out and finding and devloping the best soccer talent. That is not where our financial incentives lie as they do in other places.

If you look at what our system in light of what it is designed to do, you won't be so disappointed.

Not really disagreeing, but also not frustrated. Only pointing out that if we have complaints on the quality of our current NT, and why we have to continue to use aging players because what is being turned out isn't good enough, whomever is responsible for providing those players did a crap job at it.

Whether those who were responsible care or not isn't the question. I'm sure they don't, and that's fine too. But, I'm only pointing out the reasons why we are falling behind, and it's because the leading organization for developing "high-level" girls soccer players has failed.

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Not really disagreeing, but also not frustrated. Only pointing out that if we have complaints on the quality of our current NT, and why we have to continue to use aging players because what is being turned out isn't good enough, whomever is responsible for providing those players did a crap job at it.

Whether those who were responsible care or not isn't the question. I'm sure they don't, and that's fine too. But, I'm only pointing out the reasons why we are falling behind, and it's because the leading organization for developing "high-level" girls soccer players has failed.

I think their goal was running a very successful soccer business and that is what they do. If there was money to be made in finding and developing female soccer talent, someone would do it. But there isn't. Go for it if you think that could be a profitable operation. Good luck.

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I think their goal was running a very successful soccer business and that is what they do. If there was money to be made in finding and developing female soccer talent, someone would do it. But there isn't. Go for it if you think that could be a profitable operation. Good luck.

Are we assuming that putting the best players (at someones discretion) on a team will almost guaranty a championship?....what if there is no chemistry? There are a lot of X Factors with putting together a championship team...and its no easy task and there is no simple formula.

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I think their goal was running a very successful soccer business and that is what they do. If there was money to be made in finding and developing female soccer talent, someone would do it. But there isn't. Go for it if you think that could be a profitable operation. Good luck.

Not sure why this keeps coming up. I'm simply stating whomever is responsible for developing players has done a **** job at it. That's all.

If they care or not, that's on them and the participants.

If what you are saying is true, then sad that they are standing in the way of preventing someone else to do it. But, money's money and we all want our share. I get it. It also doesn't absolve them from them for the failure of the development of players and their role in it.

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Not sure why this keeps coming up. I'm simply stating whomever is responsible for developing players has done a **** job at it. That's all.

If they care or not, that's on them and the participants.

If what you are saying is true, then sad that they are standing in the way of preventing someone else to do it. But, money's money and we all want our share. I get it. It also doesn't absolve them from them for the failure of the development of players and their role in it.

Why is it a failure if development is not the priority? If $$$$ is the priority than its obviously not a failure....Perhaps one would like to move to Germany where the Government runs the National Soccer Program?....it is what it is....We are a capitalist country and I'm grateful for this.

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Why is it a failure if development is not the priority? If $$$$ is the priority than its obviously not a failure....Perhaps one would like to move to Germany where the Government runs the National Soccer Program?....it is what it is....We are a capitalist country and I'm grateful for this.

I don't disagree with it. And, I think you are caught up in the weeds.

Whomever provides players for the NT pool over the last 10 years has done a **** job at it.

Sounds like you are saying if you are looking to be developed you should look elsewhere?

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Not sure why this keeps coming up. I'm simply stating whomever is responsible for developing players has done a **** job at it. That's all.

If they care or not, that's on them and the participants.

If what you are saying is true, then sad that they are standing in the way of preventing someone else to do it. But, money's money and we all want our share. I get it. It also doesn't absolve them from them for the failure of the development of players and their role in it.

You are 100% correct. As the governing body, US Soccer has done a horrible job in discovering and grooming players. No one else to blame. Their system is soured by biased picks and favoritism over talent. They are the only one to blame. They scout all leagues they oversee. Over the past 10 years they have allowed clubs to choose who the top talent is to go to ID Clinics. I can tell you that players have been passed over for years because their families aren't paying coaches on the side to get their kid seen.

Thank you for bringing this up. US Soccer has done a disservice to our players and they wonder why no new talent is coming up

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Not sure why this keeps coming up. I'm simply stating whomever is responsible for developing players has done a **** job at it. That's all.

If they care or not, that's on them and the participants.

If what you are saying is true, then sad that they are standing in the way of preventing someone else to do it. But, money's money and we all want our share. I get it. It also doesn't absolve them from them for the failure of the development of players and their role in it.

I dont get this "responsible for developing players" Soccer teachers are in effect private tutors. Lots of kids have lessons in all kind of things. Is the SAT tutor crap if the kid does not score 1600? Many kids are never going to score 1600 ever no matter how much tutoring they get. But the tutor will help them improve if they want to stay in business.

It sounds like your criteria for judging if a teacher is good is if their students win a world cup. But a tutor works with the customer that hires them and the goal is to help that student reach their potential.

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I dont get this "responsible for developing players" Soccer teachers are in effect private tutors. Lots of kids have lessons in all kind of things. Is the SAT tutor crap if the kid does not score 1600? Many kids are never going to score 1600 ever no matter how much tutoring they get. But the tutor will help them improve if they want to stay in business.

It sounds like your criteria for judging if a teacher is good is if their students win a world cup. But a tutor works with the customer that hires them and the goal is to help that student reach their potential.

Actually you do have a good example. If we want to be the leader of the scientific world, and our science teachers are educating our students in such a way where we cannot dissect a frog or list the elements in water, we would blame our teachers...no?

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I don't disagree with it. And, I think you are caught up in the weeds.

Whomever provides players for the NT pool over the last 10 years has done a **** job at it.

Sounds like you are saying if you are looking to be developed you should look elsewhere?

Sounds like you think any player "looking to be developed just needs to find the right teacher and they have no upper limit. This is not the case. A good teacher is critical but no teacher can turn lead into gold.

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Actually you do have a good example. If we want to be the leader of the scientific world, and our science teachers are educating our students in such a way where we cannot dissect a frog or list the elements in water, we would blame our teachers...no?

Look at the STEM students. The top ones will be sought out, found and developed because that all leads to big profits for the company that finds them and develops them.