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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    You idiots are ridiculous going back and forth about which league is best. I have a kid on the 03 NYCFC team and a kid in ECNL. Both leagues are so diluted that they both are almost unwatchable. Better kids need to make a decision on their leagues to play together. The truth is, a lot of the better Players like to play HS, so for that reason alone, ECNL should be the destination league.
    your focus cannot be the overall quality as there are far too may variables your child cannot control. watch practice and base everything on the rate at which your child is improving and her enjoyment of that process. If she ticks those boxes, then you are in eh right place.

    Club Gameday is the most overrated yardstick out there. People on here puffing out their chest because they are on the same team as Jane, who took a shot from 40 yds that went over the reserve Gks head and they won !!

    its not as simple as who won or lost IF you really have a desire to play a meaningful role on a good team at the next level. if not, then keep these idiotic comparisons going.Its what has made several Clubs a lot of money as overall player quality goes down.

    90pct of womens College soccer looks like what people here describe as unwatchable. the soccer snobbery i read here is laughable in that context. Unless your kid os going to one of the real marquee schools then get on with getting better and accept it for what it is.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      He'll say some stupid sh!t like, "GDA is all about development. Results don't matter. The GDA played the most beautiful soccer but lost to rec kickball ECNL teams." HAHA
      ECNL parents. Talk about drinking the Kool-Aid. If it was the league to be in there would be no back an forth about which is better. What you people fail to acknowledge is in NY, ALL OF YOUR TEAMS are trash.

      The end.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Are you dyslexic?? You inverted the numbers. Wow, some people just need to sit in a corner and suck their thumb.
        That was done purposefully. Let me break it down for you, since you're a simpleton.

        - The head to head matchup results were 19-14-7 in favor of ECNL
        - That means from a GDA perspective, the GDA record was 14-19-7

        If that doesn't help, ask your tutor to re-explain.

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          Anyone notice that the kids from NEFC that are scoring all their goals are the kids who played High School this past fall. Big Scorer on the 18/19's who scored 9 against NYSC and the big scorer on the 16/17's who scored 3 both played HS Ball. I guess it really doesn't matter if you forgo all that great developing in the DA for a few weeks. HUH CRAZY

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Anyone notice that the kids from NEFC that are scoring all their goals are the kids who played High School this past fall. Big Scorer on the 18/19's who scored 9 against NYSC and the big scorer on the 16/17's who scored 3 both played HS Ball. I guess it really doesn't matter if you forgo all that great developing in the DA for a few weeks. HUH CRAZY
            Causation/correlation?

            Maybe they'd be that much better if they weren't away?

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              your focus cannot be the overall quality as there are far too may variables your child cannot control. watch practice and base everything on the rate at which your child is improving and her enjoyment of that process. If she ticks those boxes, then you are in eh right place.

              Club Gameday is the most overrated yardstick out there. People on here puffing out their chest because they are on the same team as Jane, who took a shot from 40 yds that went over the reserve Gks head and they won !!

              its not as simple as who won or lost IF you really have a desire to play a meaningful role on a good team at the next level. if not, then keep these idiotic comparisons going.Its what has made several Clubs a lot of money as overall player quality goes down.

              90pct of womens College soccer looks like what people here describe as unwatchable. the soccer snobbery i read here is laughable in that context. Unless your kid os going to one of the real marquee schools then get on with getting better and accept it for what it is.
              anyone notice how any rational post kills the conversation?

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Anyone notice that the kids from NEFC that are scoring all their goals are the kids who played High School this past fall. Big Scorer on the 18/19's who scored 9 against NYSC and the big scorer on the 16/17's who scored 3 both played HS Ball. I guess it really doesn't matter if you forgo all that great developing in the DA for a few weeks. HUH CRAZY
                This is a classic representation of everything wrong with DA in the NE

                1) let a stud play HS while all the rest have to give it (maybe she's private school but many feel the HS ban should apply to all or none).

                2) The team was 10-0 in the fall and many were also big blowouts also, so it wasn't just about her. But then they go to FL and lose three games in a row to top national teams Tophat, Real SoCal and Sockers. Come back home and start having big wins again because the local competition is so weak. Big heads here at home, then reality once they're put up against better quality teams.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Causation/correlation?

                  Maybe they'd be that much better if they weren't away?
                  the 19s were 10-0 in the fall. But once they played non NE teams they lost. The 16s were more of a mixed bag

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    This is a classic representation of everything wrong with DA in the NE

                    1) let a stud play HS while all the rest have to give it (maybe she's private school but many feel the HS ban should apply to all or none).

                    2) The team was 10-0 in the fall and many were also big blowouts also, so it wasn't just about her. But then they go to FL and lose three games in a row to top national teams Tophat, Real SoCal and Sockers. Come back home and start having big wins again because the local competition is so weak. Big heads here at home, then reality once they're put up against better quality teams.
                    My D's teammate played GDA and was privately schooled. She didn't take the waiver and became her high school team's manager so she could play GDA all season. Not everyone takes the waiver. I thought you had to.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Anyone notice that the kids from NEFC that are scoring all their goals are the kids who played High School this past fall. Big Scorer on the 18/19's who scored 9 against NYSC and the big scorer on the 16/17's who scored 3 both played HS Ball. I guess it really doesn't matter if you forgo all that great developing in the DA for a few weeks. HUH CRAZY
                      smh at your total lack of understanding. if you goal is uncompetitive soccer matches, then sure. have at it. if you think those kids are going to do that vs good teams...dream on.

                      Im fine with whatever level any kid wants to play at, but the funny part is how most parents try to pretend that its a really high level. I believe the way the game is played here, you can get by at almost every level playing HS and other sports. It is only an issue at the highest levels and even there, you can overcome some of that with elite athleticism.

                      The youth soccer machine for women thrives on the "emperor with no clothes mentality". No one wants to tell the truth.

                      there is very little soccer played in this country by girls that requires the sacrifices the GDA or ECNL want you to make and even if you d0 make them , there is no way to monetize that unless you are smart enough to get into a really good school or exceptional enough to make a full NT.

                      People seem happy to be in an environment that is a pure luxury. The economics dont work so parents are pouring more and more $$ into it for no real benefit. everywhere else, talent drives the agenda. when i tell my european friends how much club soccer costs here and then show them game tape, they laugh.

                      The more talented you are the less you should pay and below a certain level, the costs and sacrifices should be minimal. here, mediocre players pay a fortune to make all sortsof sacrifices for zero real return.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        This is a classic representation of everything wrong with DA in the NE

                        1) let a stud play HS while all the rest have to give it (maybe she's private school but many feel the HS ban should apply to all or none).

                        2) The team was 10-0 in the fall and many were also big blowouts also, so it wasn't just about her. But then they go to FL and lose three games in a row to top national teams Tophat, Real SoCal and Sockers. Come back home and start having big wins again because the local competition is so weak. Big heads here at home, then reality once they're put up against better quality teams.
                        except the team profile has no correlation to the individual player per se. NYCFC DA 19 last year had a similar profile ( not relevant nationally), but went from kids who do not play in College, thru some in D3, to All Confernce D3 to D1 role players to all ACC players. They all played on the same team.

                        The goal relative to outcomes for individuals is purely personal. Correlating it to team results is just asinine

                        your Tophat, Real SoCal and Sockers teams will have similar College profiles.Some of those kids will be on teams that are getting killed by kids who were on far worse Club teams.

                        So what is your point ?

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          except the team profile has no correlation to the individual player per se. NYCFC DA 19 last year had a similar profile ( not relevant nationally), but went from kids who do not play in College, thru some in D3, to All Confernce D3 to D1 role players to all ACC players. They all played on the same team.

                          The goal relative to outcomes for individuals is purely personal. Correlating it to team results is just asinine

                          your Tophat, Real SoCal and Sockers teams will have similar College profiles.Some of those kids will be on teams that are getting killed by kids who were on far worse Club teams.

                          So what is your point ?
                          Weren't they the team that bailed and didn't go to nationals because they knew they would get lit up? How is that okay with USSF? That is the problem. The league isn't really about getting better.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Weren't they the team that bailed and didn't go to nationals because they knew they would get lit up? How is that okay with USSF? That is the problem. The league isn't really about getting better.
                            OMG don’t say that! We’ve spent 18 months believing it’s all about developing

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Weren't they the team that bailed and didn't go to nationals because they knew they would get lit up? How is that okay with USSF? That is the problem. The league isn't really about getting better.
                              What difference that made to where the players ended up ? Who cares if they would or would not have gotten lit up? none of those kids playing in College do. Some are lighting up many of those kids who were on better teams at Club level. How is that even possible?

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                except the team profile has no correlation to the individual player per se. NYCFC DA 19 last year had a similar profile ( not relevant nationally), but went from kids who do not play in College, thru some in D3, to All Confernce D3 to D1 role players to all ACC players. They all played on the same team.

                                The goal relative to outcomes for individuals is purely personal. Correlating it to team results is just asinine

                                your Tophat, Real SoCal and Sockers teams will have similar College profiles.Some of those kids will be on teams that are getting killed by kids who were on far worse Club teams.

                                So what is your point ?
                                What is your point?

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