Girls DA

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Okay so based on your logic, "picking a club with a coach and DOC you trust" not one kid should've been playing at LISC. The "club" materialized out of thin air when East Meadow wanted to have a hand in GDA but wasn't willing to give up ECNL so they "bestowed" their GDA badge to some buddies that were involved in Rough Riders.

There was never a formal DOC anointed, just a bunch of people called technical advisors, who are or were involved in mediocre to flat out awful girls programs and a Hofstra coach who had little to do with the program, but collected a salary for giving the club access to Hofstra fields.

Then they basically handed the program over to the biggest POS involved in LI youth soccer-Maria Logan. Barely licensed, she's a horrible trainer with no track record of even a modicum of success or college placement who spent most of her time poaching players from Kurt Kelley trying to convince them that SHE was the only one looking out for them and could help them in ways Kurt couldn't. The only one that piece of crap is looking out for is herself!!!

so after one year, those who made that mistake have learned a lesson. why is that a problem?

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Yes, GDA's goal is to foster talent for the NT pool. They don't care about college paths, except as it relates to prepping those unicorns for being ready for NT duties. They don't care about most players really...they know they need them to have clubs and leagues and $$$ to fund the pipeline. At the end of the day, they only are looking to improve their NT pool. That is it.

And as for LISC, there was a constant revolving door. They only improved because in some cases they got new talent to show up (and sometimes breaking DA rules by allowing them to play in multiple leagues beyond the 6 games max as DP...they also let players play in HS and GDA simultaneously).

And talk to parents in Fury GDA. Do they feel it's any different than being at Alby? No. Same issues, same politics, same coaches.

you say GDA. what /who is GDA? you say it does not care, you know this how? The USSF benefit from a stronger player pool .Everybody does. it does not have to be win/loss. The agendas on these forums are astounding, they really are.

Change is driven by clubs and coaches, not leagues. i would not expect Alby to be any different becasue you hang a new sign at the gate. why would it? Its the main reason why and ECNL founding Club will always tend to see thing the ECNL way.

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you say GDA. what /who is GDA? you say it does not care, you know this how? The USSF benefit from a stronger player pool .Everybody does. it does not have to be win/loss. The agendas on these forums are astounding, they really are.

Change is driven by clubs and coaches, not leagues. i would not expect Alby to be any different becasue you hang a new sign at the gate. why would it? Its the main reason why and ECNL founding Club will always tend to see thing the ECNL way.

If USSF wants things better, then get away from the traditional clubs. Hire their own staff, collect the revenues from parents, and run the operations through that. Then maybe the bickering would stop. Instead they leave it in the hands of businesses who have little incentive to deliver.

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If USSF wants things better, then get away from the traditional clubs. Hire their own staff, collect the revenues from parents, and run the operations through that. Then maybe the bickering would stop. Instead they leave it in the hands of businesses who have little incentive to deliver.

Clubs are businesses. They can't profit off of player trades/sales like the rest of the world does so they have to make their $ offering a service.

I totally agree that taking the highest level out of the hands of clubs would be better - get rid of club politics, parent favoritism etc - but that would also require a USSF that knew what it's doing. Clearly they do not. Also it would require $ put in by USSF, but they've decided its easier and cheaper to have the clubs do all the heavy lifting.

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Clubs are businesses. They can't profit off of player trades/sales like the rest of the world does so they have to make their $ offering a service.

I totally agree that taking the highest level out of the hands of clubs would be better - get rid of club politics, parent favoritism etc - but that would also require a USSF that knew what it's doing. Clearly they do not. Also it would require $ put in by USSF, but they've decided its easier and cheaper to have the clubs do all the heavy lifting.

Why would it require $ by USSF if they fund it through parent fees?

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Clubs are businesses. They can't profit off of player trades/sales like the rest of the world does so they have to make their $ offering a service.

I totally agree that taking the highest level out of the hands of clubs would be better - get rid of club politics, parent favoritism etc - but that would also require a USSF that knew what it's doing. Clearly they do not. Also it would require $ put in by USSF, but they've decided its easier and cheaper to have the clubs do all the heavy lifting.

Ludicrous suggestion. where are the USSF supposed to get fields from ? are they to hire a whole new set of coaches? why would Clubs lease to the USSF ? Why would a coach work for the USSF? what about USSF politics?

the problem is its easy to talk, much harder to actually design a workable system that the vested interests actually will support.

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Why would it require $ by USSF if they fund it through parent fees?

Pay to play is one of the biggest issues in soccer today. Top players shouldn't be excluded because they can't afford it. Why should other families fund the training of other players? If USSF wants to improve US soccer they should put their money where their mouth is

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Ludicrous suggestion. where are the USSF supposed to get fields from ? are they to hire a whole new set of coaches? why would Clubs lease to the USSF ? Why would a coach work for the USSF? what about USSF politics?

the problem is its easy to talk, much harder to actually design a workable system that the vested interests actually will support.

Seriously? You can rent fields anywhere. You can hire coaches. It's all about willpower and good management. USSF has neither.

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Seriously? You can rent fields anywhere. You can hire coaches. It's all about willpower and good management. USSF has neither.

Exactly...it's not a hard business model. You charge $ per player to cover your costs. You hire a coach, rent field space, set up a curriculum (like Red Bulls). Centralize uniforms, insurance, etc. I'm sure lots of coaches would want to be a "USSF GDA" coach if they were paid fairly.

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Exactly...it's not a hard business model. You charge $ per player to cover your costs. You hire a coach, rent field space, set up a curriculum (like Red Bulls). Centralize uniforms, insurance, etc. I'm sure lots of coaches would want to be a "USSF GDA" coach if they were paid fairly.

This sounds like odp and odp is costly.

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This sounds like odp and odp is costly.

Neither has to be. Again, it's all about willpower and management. Now that USSF is run by an ex investment banker don't look for this type of model to ever be implemented. It's all about the benjamins

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This sounds like odp and odp is costly.

Is ODP costly because someone is making a profit? If they aren't making any money from the clubs playing in the league currently, why can't it be run as break-even?

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Is ODP costly because someone is making a profit? If they aren't making any money from the clubs playing in the league currently, why can't it be run as break-even?

ODP is used by the State US youth Soccer affiliates (i.e Eastern New York Youth Soccer Association) to help fund their operations. The associations are break even (non-profit) but ODP is typically the number 2 funding source behind player fees.

Also keep in mind what most people refer to as ODP is a US Youth Soccer and State Affliate Youth Soccer program. It is only marginally affiliated with US Soccer Federation as ODP programs (ODP, ID2, PDP) are recognized as ODP programs by US Soccer federation.

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It seems LISC WILL field teams for next season in addition to EDP teams. Anyone have any info? Their website is lame

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It seems LISC WILL field teams for next season in addition to EDP teams. Anyone have any info? Their website is lame

Rumor they'll only do U14 and U15. Not sure why they even bother, other than they have a shot at getting decent middle school kids. No one want's to give up HS for that cluster ****