ECNL Regional path to playing ECNL teams.

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I agree with this post (except for the 4th player getting invited to NTC) The problem becomes college coaches have there own biases about clubs/teams/trainers and have preferences where they want to either recruit players or where they want there committed players to continue to play. PDA & PF are both on the top of the food chain by many college coaches. Yes, the platform of ECNL is a priority and then it is the situation of the club/team/coach. Colleges want continued growth and competitiveness so all these things really matter. They will continue to monitor there progress so if the player is not playing in a viable competitive league or team they will strongly suggest you leave to a better situation.

First and foremost, coaches want to see you playing. There isn't as much interest as some would lead you to believe that a coach is interested in watching someone play 50-60 minutes.

So, your first priority should be minutes, then competitive minutes. After, they know which clubs they like and which coaches they like, and will gravitate to those. From there, factors as costs and logistics take over.

Coaches aren't as enamored with a player just because they are on an ECNL roster. That's a myth.

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First and foremost, coaches want to see you playing. There isn't as much interest as some would lead you to believe that a coach is interested in watching someone play 50-60 minutes.

So, your first priority should be minutes, then competitive minutes. After, they know which clubs they like and which coaches they like, and will gravitate to those. From there, factors as costs and logistics take over.

Coaches aren't as enamored with a player just because they are on an ECNL roster. That's a myth.

That is correct, my D plays on USYS team and that’s the message we’ve heard directly from college coaches as well.

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You are being too literal. It was just an example. (If you are familiar with the training centers then you know clubs get a chance to send some of their better prospects at different ages to these training centers. Training centers actually reach out to clubs for some of their players.And of course vice versa You will have players at training centers at different calibers simply because they are the better player at that particular club . That same player may not be invited if they were at a different club. But I digress, and this is not particularly relevant to the Youth soccer landscape in NJ)

If your going to use an example then you have to be accurate especially to those who do not know what the NTC is about. My daughter has been invited so she has had the experience. Clubs that send players to the NTC have to have credibility with the instructors because these sessions are very limited in scope. If a club sends there 4th best forward and it shows at the training session then that club and coaches will lose credibility with the NTC staff and there not be another opportunity to send other players in the future.

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If your going to use an example then you have to be accurate especially to those who do not know what the NTC is about. My daughter has been invited so she has had the experience. Clubs that send players to the NTC have to have credibility with the instructors because these sessions are very limited in scope. If a club sends there 4th best forward and it shows at the training session then that club and coaches will lose credibility with the NTC staff and there not be another opportunity to send other players in the future.

You seem to be stuck on the example. I will delete and say players that have gone through the training centers....... or how about simply players of a high quality. Hopefully that will suffice for you.

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If your going to use an example then you have to be accurate especially to those who do not know what the NTC is about. My daughter has been invited so she has had the experience. Clubs that send players to the NTC have to have credibility with the instructors because these sessions are very limited in scope. If a club sends there 4th best forward and it shows at the training session then that club and coaches will lose credibility with the NTC staff and there not be another opportunity to send other players in the future.

All I know is township teams that play EDP (ie Real NJ) have sent several girls to NTC while PDA kids which are much better get left out because well you can’t send everyone. Very unfair and we have to find a way to balance out as the 4th best player at PDA might very well be the 4th best player there! But they miss out because of a broken and biased system that caters to giving everyone a trophy and equal participation.

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First and foremost, coaches want to see you playing. There isn't as much interest as some would lead you to believe that a coach is interested in watching someone play 50-60 minutes.

So, your first priority should be minutes, then competitive minutes. After, they know which clubs they like and which coaches they like, and will gravitate to those. From there, factors as costs and logistics take over.

Coaches aren't as enamored with a player just because they are on an ECNL roster. That's a myth.

First and foremost College Coaches do have a bias towards the platform ECNL. When there is a player on another platform (league) who stands out at a particular colleges camp/clinic they will certainly start following that player. They will come to a college showcase and watch her play and make an assessment on her talent. I agree they do not need to see a full game. Most stay for a half at most. If they are interested in pursuing the player and recruiting her they will look at her current situation and if they feel she is not in a competitive situation in training with her present team or do not think the league is not challenging enough they will suggest you make a change to a more competitive situation. That happens a lot especially those players who are being recruited by top college programs.

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All I know is township teams that play EDP (ie Real NJ) have sent several girls to NTC while PDA kids which are much better get left out because well you can’t send everyone. Very unfair and we have to find a way to balance out as the 4th best player at PDA might very well be the 4th best player there! But they miss out because of a broken and biased system that caters to giving everyone a trophy and equal participation.

On the contrary, this is the problem with a club like PDA. If you want to hoard all the players and huge obnoxiously huge rosters, many players are going to get worked over.

In your example, that player that has an NTC in their sites and is down the totem pole on their own club, they should be swallowing their pride (or their parents should swallow their pride) and that player should be switching, pronto.

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First and foremost College Coaches do have a bias towards the platform ECNL. When there is a player on another platform (league) who stands out at a particular colleges camp/clinic they will certainly start following that player. They will come to a college showcase and watch her play and make an assessment on her talent. I agree they do not need to see a full game. Most stay for a half at most. If they are interested in pursuing the player and recruiting her they will look at her current situation and if they feel she is not in a competitive situation in training with her present team or do not think the league is not challenging enough they will suggest you make a change to a more competitive situation. That happens a lot especially those players who are being recruited by top college programs.

Again, that is a myth.

My kid had a few informal conversations (which they would surely deny) when she was in NPL. Same when they moved to GDA, and the colleges are still in contact and have adamantly told her there is no reason to uproot herself from her current situation. They like what they see, they like the competitive nature of the club and the league she is in.

100% said "No reason to stop doing what you are doing".

You people really need to stop spreading the lies and trying to prey on idiotic parents' insecurities.

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All I know is township teams that play EDP (ie Real NJ) have sent several girls to NTC while PDA kids which are much better get left out because well you can’t send everyone. Very unfair and we have to find a way to balance out as the 4th best player at PDA might very well be the 4th best player there! But they miss out because of a broken and biased system that caters to giving everyone a trophy and equal participation.

Yes this certainly happens a lot. Because its just not about the quality of the player but it is also about representation from different clubs. Which is why, by the way its not hard to believe, that a girl who gets invited to a couple of training centers from another club may not be good enough to make the PDA ECNL team because they already have several players playing in that position.

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Again, that is a myth.

My kid had a few informal conversations (which they would surely deny) when she was in NPL. Same when they moved to GDA, and the colleges are still in contact and have adamantly told her there is no reason to uproot herself from her current situation. They like what they see, they like the competitive nature of the club and the league she is in.

100% said "No reason to stop doing what you are doing".

You people really need to stop spreading the lies and trying to prey on idiotic parents' insecurities.

That is no myth, that is a fact!! It all depends on the college and the coach. As you just said, “ they like what they see, they like the competitive nature of the club and the league she is in”. In your situation that particular college was okay with her situation. You are showing your own biases by saying it’s a myth. Parents should know ALL THE FACTS and every situation is different. As I originally said college coaches have there own preferences and biases and want players in situations that will make them better players and they have told players (suggested) movement to better platforms for the growth of there games.

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Coaches aren't as enamored with a player just because they are on an ECNL roster. That's a myth.

Has anybody actually ever said this myth?

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That is no myth, that is a fact!! It all depends on the college and the coach. As you just said, “ they like what they see, they like the competitive nature of the club and the league she is in”. In your situation that particular college was okay with her situation. You are showing your own biases by saying it’s a myth. Parents should know ALL THE FACTS and every situation is different. As I originally said college coaches have there own preferences and biases and want players in situations that will make them better players and they have told players (suggested) movement to better platforms for the growth of there games.

Right, every situation is different. So, the position that everyone should be trying to get into an ECNL club is, in fact, a MYTH.

And, I said "coaches" as in plural. Everyone one of them believes different that what is being presented on here.

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That is no myth, that is a fact!! It all depends on the college and the coach. As you just said, “ they like what they see, they like the competitive nature of the club and the league she is in”. In your situation that particular college was okay with her situation. You are showing your own biases by saying it’s a myth. Parents should know ALL THE FACTS and every situation is different. As I originally said college coaches have there own preferences and biases and want players in situations that will make them better players and they have told players (suggested) movement to better platforms for the growth of there games.

its a myth, and im not the OP, im a PDA parent. we have a bunch of kids on our 24 person team that unfortunately come and play 10 minutes per game at a showcase and 0 minutes at a game. just about all the starters have made some indirect contact with colleges, but the non-starters ARE NOT getting any feedback, even though we have 100 coaches per game at the showcase. so, being on a pda team had gotten them zero advantage so far. unless you're a starter there is ZERO advantage. your points are a total myth.

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Has anybody actually ever said this myth?

Yes, constantly. Every day I come on here and it's represented that any serious player should be getting onto an ECNL roster.

Constantly.

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That is no myth, that is a fact!! It all depends on the college and the coach. As you just said, “ they like what they see, they like the competitive nature of the club and the league she is in”. In your situation that particular college was okay with her situation. You are showing your own biases by saying it’s a myth. Parents should know ALL THE FACTS and every situation is different. As I originally said college coaches have there own preferences and biases and want players in situations that will make them better players and they have told players (suggested) movement to better platforms for the growth of there games.

And, for the love of God, figure out the difference between "their" and "there". Spend less time reaching for the CAPS lock and more time getting your grammar figured out.....

Christ.