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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Well said DB. Why didn't you win a championship all those years ago when you had that team loaded with D-1 talent?
    CFC Championship last week!

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      So your level of success is a top 10 college? You know those ranking change frequently. Look a little deeper.
      No its not. It my measure of one program producing more top level players that anyone else. I defined success. Its any kid playing managing to leverage soccer into a good education.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        CFC Championship last week!
        1 out of the 6 teams that went...

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Not focused on winning games. They are winning championships. Big difference. Seems like your only barometer of success is whether you think your kid is improving. NewsFlash...if she plays at MF she isn't. If she looks like she is improving its because the best players leave.

          And not sure you can argue that a team's success isn't attributed to a shared development across all the kids. Maybe some aren't as selfish as you and want to see all kids improve. Maybe you are just worried if your kid starts or plays the most minutes.
          I most certainly can. Its all about the individual. Winning at Club level has very little to do with the best players. Its not selfish to focus on my kid. Its reality. I have no insight into what the other kids goals are but i sure as heck know they are different. Getting in to Duke to play soccer is a very different proposition to getting into Rutgers. You have kids with varying goals on the same team. Its the parents job to make sure their kid gets what she wants out of Club. I know many many kids from sinning teams who looking back would have done it very differently. Winning games =/= improvement.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Not the OP. My assumption is that the poster meant MF will recruit top players from other teams to the ECNL squad, and dump the fun loving, cupcake munchers to the ECNLR squad. At least that's the movie we've all seen for the last 5 years. This way MF will get their social marketing quota of "we got 6 players recruited to the D1 schools" but in reality only 2 of those players were with the team for more than 3 years.
            I get that, but its up to parents to look beyond the BS. You do realize that there are very few kids who stay at one Club these days. You also realize that a player can benefit from moving. Just ignore the marketing. Focus on your kid

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Not focused on winning games. They are winning championships. Big difference. Seems like your only barometer of success is whether you think your kid is improving. NewsFlash...if she plays at MF she isn't. If she looks like she is improving its because the best players leave.

              And not sure you can argue that a team's success isn't attributed to a shared development across all the kids. Maybe some aren't as selfish as you and want to see all kids improve. Maybe you are just worried if your kid starts or plays the most minutes.
              by the way, i know what improvement looks like. I dont need other players to see it. Playing fewer high quality minutes is fine by me. As long as she makes the most of her time and its not negligible, then all good.

              Newsflash, 2 of my three kids already play in College. We never measured the clubs they played at by wins. They won a few, lost a few.

              Im comfortable with my choices and dont need to bash MF or anyone else. I have seen some very good players come out of MF.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Well said DB. Why didn't you win a championship all those years ago when you had that team loaded with D-1 talent?
                Who cares. some of those kids went to Stanford, UVA, UNC , NC State etc. Most played good minutes on those teams. Who cares if they won Club championships or not? And Im not DB. Im just objective and have no axe to grind.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  No its not. It my measure of one program producing more top level players that anyone else. I defined success. Its any kid playing managing to leverage soccer into a good education.
                  So based on your top 10 requirement of success, according to Top Drawer PDA has 8 committed to going to these schools. MF has 0.

                  8-0

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Who cares. some of those kids went to Stanford, UVA, UNC , NC State etc. Most played good minutes on those teams. Who cares if they won Club championships or not? And Im not DB. Im just objective and have no axe to grind.
                    No axe to grind but MF must be paying you by the word. You all lose credibility when comparing MF to PDA. Come back down to reality.

                    The club championship does matter. its a reflection of the poor coaching at MF.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      So based on your top 10 requirement of success, according to Top Drawer PDA has 8 committed to going to these schools. MF has 0.

                      8-0
                      Unfortunately, I dont look at committed. I look at what happens when they get there. I look at history, I dont predict the future. lets see how many get there and produce. Collecting talent is what the destination Clubs do. They dont necessarily improve it. Thats the point.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        No axe to grind but MF must be paying you by the word. You all lose credibility when comparing MF to PDA. Come back down to reality.

                        The club championship does matter. its a reflection of the poor coaching at MF.
                        you are an expert in selective reading. I compared PDA to most of the Clubs in the North East. I stand by what I have said. The destination clubs are always going to wim more games and have more depth based on that alone. it does not follow that they are better Clubs for all players. It certainly does not follow that the best players all come from there. They dont.

                        Stop trying to change my point. If you want follow the herd to PDA because they win games. Good Luck. It becomes self fulfilling. That does not mean its best for you or your child. It may be. Some kids will benefit more from being in a different environment with different coaches. be that MF, WCFC, or any one of a number of Clubs. its a personal choice that far too many think is based on who wins or how it worked out for someone else with different criteria.

                        I dont care about in game coaching. Obviously you do. Winning titles means very little to a College coach in the evaluation process.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          No axe to grind but MF must be paying you by the word. You all lose credibility when comparing MF to PDA. Come back down to reality.

                          The club championship does matter. its a reflection of the poor coaching at MF.
                          so every team that does not win is poorly coached? or is it just MF?

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Unfortunately, I dont look at committed. I look at what happens when they get there. I look at history, I dont predict the future. lets see how many get there and produce. Collecting talent is what the destination Clubs do. They dont necessarily improve it. Thats the point.
                            You should look at committed if you are going to say they both send kids to top 10 schools. So dumb.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              you are an expert in selective reading. I compared PDA to most of the Clubs in the North East. I stand by what I have said. The destination clubs are always going to wim more games and have more depth based on that alone. it does not follow that they are better Clubs for all players. It certainly does not follow that the best players all come from there. They dont.

                              Stop trying to change my point. If you want follow the herd to PDA because they win games. Good Luck. It becomes self fulfilling. That does not mean its best for you or your child. It may be. Some kids will benefit more from being in a different environment with different coaches. be that MF, WCFC, or any one of a number of Clubs. its a personal choice that far too many think is based on who wins or how it worked out for someone else with different criteria.

                              I dont care about in game coaching. Obviously you do. Winning titles means very little to a College coach in the evaluation process.
                              College coaches care about in game coaching. I would be careful about comparing MF to WCFC also. That comparison isn't too good for MF either.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                you are an expert in selective reading. I compared PDA to most of the Clubs in the North East. I stand by what I have said. The destination clubs are always going to wim more games and have more depth based on that alone. it does not follow that they are better Clubs for all players. It certainly does not follow that the best players all come from there. They dont.

                                Stop trying to change my point. If you want follow the herd to PDA because they win games. Good Luck. It becomes self fulfilling. That does not mean its best for you or your child. It may be. Some kids will benefit more from being in a different environment with different coaches. be that MF, WCFC, or any one of a number of Clubs. its a personal choice that far too many think is based on who wins or how it worked out for someone else with different criteria.

                                I dont care about in game coaching. Obviously you do. Winning titles means very little to a College coach in the evaluation process.
                                I would argue it does matter in a player’s development that they learn to perform in high pressure situations and playing for a championships/titles count. It’s but one aspect of a players skillset but important nonetheless. What do you think that a college coach wants? They want players that can contribute and win.

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