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Nobody or at least nearly nobody is getting 28 scholarships beginning in 2025. Yes, many P4 will increase above the current 14 max but not close to the 28 allowed. Some will stay the same at 14. And others will lose some scholarships. All the while, very few P4 schools even know officially what scholarship number they will be supported at by their institution at this moment for 2025.

Schools need to save money right now for the pending revenue sharing that wasn’t in anyone’s budget projections. Additional scholarships will ultimately count against the revenue sharing up to a certain number, making for less available funds to be dispersed directly to the student-athletes (mostly football).

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Free money. Harris will make sure to find a way to double and gaurantee 56 scholarships when elected.

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Nobody or at least nearly nobody is getting 28 scholarships beginning in 2025. Yes, many P4 will increase above the current 14 max but not close to the 28 allowed. Some will stay the same at 14. And others will lose some scholarships. All the while, very few P4 schools even know officially what scholarship number they will be supported at by their institution at this moment for 2025.

Schools need to save money right now for the pending revenue sharing that wasn’t in anyone’s budget projections. Additional scholarships will ultimately count against the revenue sharing up to a certain number, making for less available funds to be dispersed directly to the student-athletes (mostly football).

I read the same quote on Instagram “college soccer truth”. Why don’t you give credit to your source instead of making it your own. Coming from an anonymous person means less than someone who has a reputable following on Instagram. Have you heard of plagiarism? I believe there is uncertainty about what’s going to happen with scholarships and rosters going forward. Most of these conversations with college AD’s will happen after the season ends in December. Each league will have a broad policy for there colleges. I believe it will all depend on where the league and colleges are on the soccer pyramid. It will be interesting how it will affect the P4D1 colleges. We shall see how the 2 most powerful conferences SEC & Big Ten respond to these new rules and guide lines regarding athletic scholarships. Because of football they have the freedom to give more scholarships than anyone else. I could also see the NCAA fall apart in a few years because of these rules. With NIL and payment to student-athletes college sports is now in a free fall in which we do not know what the future holds. We are starting to see it now with the recision of verbal commitments for the 2025 class.

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I read the same quote on Instagram “college soccer truth”. Why don’t you give credit to your source instead of making it your own. Coming from an anonymous person means less than someone who has a reputable following on Instagram. Have you heard of plagiarism? I believe there is uncertainty about what’s going to happen with scholarships and rosters going forward. Most of these conversations with college AD’s will happen after the season ends in December. Each league will have a broad policy for there colleges. I believe it will all depend on where the league and colleges are on the soccer pyramid. It will be interesting how it will affect the P4D1 colleges. We shall see how the 2 most powerful conferences SEC & Big Ten respond to these new rules and guide lines regarding athletic scholarships. Because of football they have the freedom to give more scholarships than anyone else. I could also see the NCAA fall apart in a few years because of these rules. With NIL and payment to student-athletes college sports is now in a free fall in which we do not know what the future holds. We are starting to see it now with the recision of verbal commitments for the 2025 class.

Professional athletes belong to a sport clubs, not schools. Keep certain sports on university club level, make them part of curriculum and make coaches of these teams part of academic staff. Get rid of football, basketball, etc. and turn school back to what they suppose to be, academic institutions.

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I read the same quote on Instagram “college soccer truth”. Why don’t you give credit to your source instead of making it your own. Coming from an anonymous person means less than someone who has a reputable following on Instagram. Have you heard of plagiarism? I believe there is uncertainty about what’s going to happen with scholarships and rosters going forward. Most of these conversations with college AD’s will happen after the season ends in December. Each league will have a broad policy for there colleges. I believe it will all depend on where the league and colleges are on the soccer pyramid. It will be interesting how it will affect the P4D1 colleges. We shall see how the 2 most powerful conferences SEC & Big Ten respond to these new rules and guide lines regarding athletic scholarships. Because of football they have the freedom to give more scholarships than anyone else. I could also see the NCAA fall apart in a few years because of these rules. With NIL and payment to student-athletes college sports is now in a free fall in which we do not know what the future holds. We are starting to see it now with the recision of verbal commitments for the 2025 class.

Ok guess you can also read it here on the forum what’s the difference lol

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Ok guess you can also read it here on the forum what’s the difference lol

The difference? I give more validity to a statement if the source has a reputable following rather than an anonymous amateur TS poster.

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The difference? I give more validity to a statement if the source has a reputable following rather than an anonymous amateur TS poster.

Lol everyone on this forum are amateurs half of the BS on here is BS

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Professional athletes belong to a sport clubs, not schools. Keep certain sports on university club level, make them part of curriculum and make coaches of these teams part of academic staff. Get rid of football, basketball, etc. and turn school back to what they suppose to be, academic institutions.

Do you understand that college sports are a major business that are a major contributing factor to the economics of a college! These academic institutions count on that money to offer financial aid to students and fund college professor salaries. Have you ever attended a college football game in the P4 conferences. They are major fundraising events for home games. These colleges have 8 home football weekends to have fundraising events. I am a firm believer of club level sports at colleges for every student but you are being out of touch and unrealistic what college sports are about. College sports are the foundation of every major university both from a academic and social position.

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Do you understand that college sports are a major business that are a major contributing factor to the economics of a college! These academic institutions count on that money to offer financial aid to students and fund college professor salaries. Have you ever attended a college football game in the P4 conferences. They are major fundraising events for home games. These colleges have 8 home football weekends to have fundraising events. I am a firm believer of club level sports at colleges for every student but you are being out of touch and unrealistic what college sports are about. College sports are the foundation of every major university both from a academic and social position.

Rest of the world doesn't finance their universities thru sports events, even best universities in this country don't do that. P4 conference schools are mostly state universities and they should be financed by state government, not football games.

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Do you understand that college sports are a major business that are a major contributing factor to the economics of a college! These academic institutions count on that money to offer financial aid to students and fund college professor salaries. Have you ever attended a college football game in the P4 conferences. They are major fundraising events for home games. These colleges have 8 home football weekends to have fundraising events. I am a firm believer of club level sports at colleges for every student but you are being out of touch and unrealistic what college sports are about. College sports are the foundation of every major university both from a academic and social position.

College sports are NOT the foundation for every major university. What about Ivys? Harvard has a $50 Billion endowment and their football doesn't earn squat. Your Sir have zero idea what you are talking about.

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Do you understand that college sports are a major business that are a major contributing factor to the economics of a college! These academic institutions count on that money to offer financial aid to students and fund college professor salaries. Have you ever attended a college football game in the P4 conferences. They are major fundraising events for home games....

College sports are most definitely not profit makers for colleges in general. There are a few that make money, but then most of it gets plowed back into the sports system anyway. Many other schools lose money chasing the arms race for better facilities, etc.

Regardless of whether there are a few fundraising events that work now, that is no reason to continue the giant farce that is contemporary college sports. In an ideal world, it would all be club level at college, for recreation and fitness purposes. The 'serious' athletes would be in minor league programs, some of which would be in these small towns across the country, where locals could still get all worked up and drunk for the local team's weekend match.

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College sports are most definitely not profit makers for colleges in general. There are a few that make money, but then most of it gets plowed back into the sports system anyway. Many other schools lose money chasing the arms race for better facilities, etc.

Regardless of whether there are a few fundraising events that work now, that is no reason to continue the giant farce that is contemporary college sports. In an ideal world, it would all be club level at college, for recreation and fitness purposes. The 'serious' athletes would be in minor league programs, some of which would be in these small towns across the country, where locals could still get all worked up and drunk for the local team's weekend match.

Your perspective sucks. We are not the rest of the world which seems to only focus on local soccer teams. The pursuit of different sports scholarships and a ready made fan base (students) behind them is beautiful and to many our system is the envy of the world.

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... to many our system is the envy of the world.

Nothing about our college athletics is the envy of the world. The high-level research, the elite universities, and the idyllic campus life are all envied by people around the world, but college sports are not necessary for any of that. Especially when you consider the huge cost, both to universities and society.

It is complicated because of course not all college sports are the same. College football is the big money maker and is a horrible and exploitative system. We will look back on it like we do the gladiator "sport" from ancient times. This is a good book on that topic: https://uncpress.org/book/9781469683...lege-football/

The only way college football has any credibility is to start paying the athletes, which is where we get to the reduction in bogus scholarships for soccer or field hockey or fencing. The system is not sustainable.

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College sports are NOT the foundation for every major university. What about Ivys? Harvard has a $50 Billion endowment and their football doesn't earn squat. Your Sir have zero idea what you are talking about.

You mention the IVY’s who also pride themselves on their sports have you ever been to an IVY football game? They are major fundraising events for their teams and the university. Ivy’s endowments are exceptions to most other major universities simply because they are Ivy’s. Talk to the Ivy alumni and get there thoughts about college athletics. You have no idea what you’re talking about when it comes to college sports and how much an important role it plays for colleges. Talking about clueless, go to Harvard vs. Yale football or Princeton vs. Brown soccer and you will see how much it matters as a revenue source. Take your blinders off.

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You mention the IVY’s who also pride themselves on their sports have you ever been to an IVY football game? They are major fundraising events for their teams and the university. Ivy’s endowments are exceptions to most other major universities simply because they are Ivy’s. Talk to the Ivy alumni and get there thoughts about college athletics. You have no idea what you’re talking about when it comes to college sports and how much an important role it plays for colleges. Talking about clueless, go to Harvard vs. Yale football or Princeton vs. Brown soccer and you will see how much it matters as a revenue source. Take your blinders off.

Clearly people enjoy college sports. But given all the problems with the system, the relevant question is whether they would continue to donate if college sports did not exist. It's a tough counterfactual, but I suspect they would. And the people who currently give money only to support the football program or athletics in general are irrelevant, because if you get rid of athletics then you don't need their money.

Remember, institutions always evolve. Big time college sports were a product of the 20th century and there is no reason to believe these institutions won't look very different later in the 21st century.