College Experience

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1% of you will play Pro⚽️.

Less than 1% will make enoughto live off of playing Pro⚽️.

So the 40 YEARS after college MATTERS!

Get your degree & Do NOT go into massive financial debit. DON’T miss out on the college experience YOU want just for College

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1% of you will play Pro⚽️.

Less than 1% will make enoughto live off of playing Pro⚽️.

So the 40 YEARS after college MATTERS!

Get your degree & Do NOT go into massive financial debit. DON’T miss out on the college experience YOU want just for College

And do not waste so much time playing soccer that you sacrifice your grades and thereby your chance to get elite jobs or get in to elite graduate schools. Yale Law School cares about your grades and LSAT score, not whether you can take a penalty kick. Goldman cares about your ability to engage in sophisticated financial analysis, not how well you slide tackle.

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And do not waste so much time playing soccer that you sacrifice your grades and thereby your chance to get elite jobs or get in to elite graduate schools. Yale Law School cares about your grades and LSAT score, not whether you can take a penalty kick. Goldman cares about your ability to engage in sophisticated financial analysis, not how well you slide tackle.

When seeking employment or in the case of internships while in college the biggest advantage is if you’re a student-athlete. The discipline necessary to play sports and academics place you ahead of everyone else. Financial institutions like Goldman were tripping over themselves to hire summer interns who are student-athletes.

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And do not waste so much time playing soccer that you sacrifice your grades and thereby your chance to get elite jobs or get in to elite graduate schools. Yale Law School cares about your grades and LSAT score, not whether you can take a penalty kick. Goldman cares about your ability to engage in sophisticated financial analysis, not how well you slide tackle.

But the last thing the world needs is more lawyers and investment bankers.

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When seeking employment or in the case of internships while in college the biggest advantage is if you’re a student-athlete. The discipline necessary to play sports and academics place you ahead of everyone else. Financial institutions like Goldman were tripping over themselves to hire summer interns who are student-athletes.

D1 athletes are rarely able to get in an internship. Many another students are also highly organized amd disciplined. Not many aspire to work at sweatshops like Goldman

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Most players will have the same job/s as if they didn't play in college. Grades don't matter as much as you think in the real world as long as you graduated. Sure, having some kind of honors on your resume for college is good at the start but if you have it still in your 30s and 40s no one cares.

What do you call the person who graduated last in their class from medical school? ... Doctor!

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Most players will have the same job/s as if they didn't play in college. Grades don't matter as much as you think in the real world as long as you graduated. Sure, having some kind of honors on your resume for college is good at the start but if you have it still in your 30s and 40s no one cares.

What do you call the person who graduated last in their class from medical school? ... Doctor!

Grades absolutely matter if you want to go to med school or law school or pursue a phD in a STEM field. So the guy/gal who graduated last in their class in med school had strong grades in their undergrad college.

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Most players will have the same job/s as if they didn't play in college. Grades don't matter as much as you think in the real world as long as you graduated. Sure, having some kind of honors on your resume for college is good at the start but if you have it still in your 30s and 40s no one cares.

What do you call the person who graduated last in their class from medical school? ... Doctor!

Agreed…if you are applying for a barista job. I’ve hired people with 4.0’s and had people with less than 3.0’s on my staff. The 4.0’s are like a Porsche. Quick, agile,…pleasant to work with. The less than stellar grade ones, although sometimes perform really well eventually their CPU power gets maxed out. I’ve had the pleasure of working with D1, double major 4.0, STEM graduates….not soccer players. Swimmers for some reason do well.

But I know what you mean. eventually it becomes what you accomplished and you never show your GPA or even school.

My guess DB had a 2.0 or less.

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Most players will have the same job/s as if they didn't play in college. Grades don't matter as much as you think in the real world as long as you graduated. Sure, having some kind of honors on your resume for college is good at the start but if you have it still in your 30s and 40s no one cares.

What do you call the person who graduated last in their class from medical school? ... Doctor!

Consider the source of these “words of wisdom”, an anonymous TS poster. Probably the same person who will tell you that colleges will find your daughter if she is good enough to play college. Most D1 athletes secure internships in the summer break of there junior year. The vast majority of student-athletes were able to secure their first choice internships on the strength of being student-athletes.

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Grades absolutely matter if you want to go to med school or law school or pursue a phD in a STEM field. So the guy/gal who graduated last in their class in med school had strong grades in their undergrad college.

And more jobs require grad school that ever before. Some want grad school to move into a different career path. So yes grades may be important for you down the road a bit.

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Consider the source of these “words of wisdom”, an anonymous TS poster. Probably the same person who will tell you that colleges will find your daughter if she is good enough to play college. Most D1 athletes secure internships in the summer break of there junior year. The vast majority of student-athletes were able to secure their first choice internships on the strength of being student-athletes.

Are you getting paid by NCAA D1? I'd question the hiring practices of a company that puts D1 student athletes above others. I've hired great former student athletes but more non athletes. Sure part of that is a numbers game, but most D1 athletes have a less varied and interesting college experience. As a hiring manager I can assure you many D1 athletes do not have any internships or one that's more than a few weeks. D3 sports gives students more time to pursue other interests and experiences


Once you've worked for 2 years all I care about is what you did on the job. Where you went to school doesn't matter, what you did in school doesn't matter

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All things being equal, I target:

* Experience (knowing someone can do something vs. thinking someone can do something)
* Candidates with outside of school successes (athletes, volunteers, etc - shows flexibility and ability to handle a heavy workload)
* Paper only (often, not well-adjusted, can't work outside the box, and cannot juggle multiple priorities)

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All things being equal, I target:

* Experience (knowing someone can do something vs. thinking someone can do something)
* Candidates with outside of school successes (athletes, volunteers, etc - shows flexibility and ability to handle a heavy workload)
* Paper only (often, not well-adjusted, can't work outside the box, and cannot juggle multiple priorities)

So no emphasis on expertise?

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So no emphasis on expertise?

Falls into the "all things being equal" category.

So, rephrasing, three candidates with the same expertise, I would (and normally do) hire based on:

* Experience
* Outside experiences/successes
* Paper only

Nobody I know looks at it differently. I need to build a team, so need candidates who know how to work together. Bookworms don't usually fare well.

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Falls into the "all things being equal" category.

So, rephrasing, three candidates with the same expertise, I would (and normally do) hire based on:

* Experience
* Outside experiences/successes
* Paper only

Nobody I know looks at it differently. I need to build a team, so need candidates who know how to work together. Bookworms don't usually fare well.

What if the bookworm has the best experience for what the team needs? Particularly in a number of STEM fields, the bookworm is the one with the strongest expertise, so the circumstance you are describing here ("all things being equal") if a flawed premise. There is a reason why MD's and most STEM pHD's go thru 8-9 years of academic training; they need it in order to develop the expertise to be effective in their field of study and chosen professions.

If you were in need of brain surgery, would you want the surgeon who was top in their field? Or the one who was their college soccer career leading-scorer (all else being equal)...