Scrimmaging during training?

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Look up Orientation, Implementation and Learning phase (OLI for short.

This is what all US Soccer courses are run on and what most clubs will (if they haven’t already started) or should be implementing if looking to follow USSF plans.

It can sometimes look like a scrimmage but it is “game realistic’ but often is two teams playing “a game” but the learning is the moment they are looking to teach.

If you think your team is scrimmaging too much, ask the coach or club what their philosophy is for practices and what you can expect as a paying customer they should be able to let you know exactly what they are being taught

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Look up Orientation, Implementation and Learning phase (OLI for short.

This is what all US Soccer courses are run on and what most clubs will (if they haven’t already started) or should be implementing if looking to follow USSF plans.

It can sometimes look like a scrimmage but it is “game realistic’ but often is two teams playing “a game” but the learning is the moment they are looking to teach.

If you think your team is scrimmaging too much, ask the coach or club what their philosophy is for practices and what you can expect as a paying customer they should be able to let you know exactly what they are being taught

Good luck some clubs won’t answer or respond to emails

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If that's true, how do they ever keep players? Unless they are the top top

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If that's true, how do they ever keep players? Unless they are the top top

Copa has players coming and going mostly girls

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Come to PDA. Seems like there is some accountability.

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OLI I just looked it up and I’m new to this but it almost looks like it’s a session where they either build out starting with the GK and go to 2 counter goals or they start at the half way line and look to score, they can then pick a moment (passing to the outside back on build out or scoring from crosses for e.g) Everything has two teams and numbers matchup to show the real positions in a game? Is this the idea?

I kind of like it. I always just thought when I saw things like this they were scrimmaging but I guess if the coach is good, they’re trying to show the players the “live, in the moment” game.

i think our club does this and my kid always says they were working on “build out” today.

My only worry is they have some players in their team that actually don’t know how to kick the ball or dribble so if it is live how is the coach teaching this as like everything (baseball,basketball) you need repetition to master this. Pitchers don’t get good at throwing playing a game and maybe throwing, basketball players don’t get good at free throws waiting for them to happen in a game…

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OLI I just looked it up and I’m new to this but it almost looks like it’s a session where they either build out starting with the GK and go to 2 counter goals or they start at the half way line and look to score, they can then pick a moment (passing to the outside back on build out or scoring from crosses for e.g) Everything has two teams and numbers matchup to show the real positions in a game? Is this the idea?

I kind of like it. I always just thought when I saw things like this they were scrimmaging but I guess if the coach is good, they’re trying to show the players the “live, in the moment” game.

i think our club does this and my kid always says they were working on “build out” today.

My only worry is they have some players in their team that actually don’t know how to kick the ball or dribble so if it is live how is the coach teaching this as like everything (baseball,basketball) you need repetition to master this. Pitchers don’t get good at throwing playing a game and maybe throwing, basketball players don’t get good at free throws waiting for them to happen in a game…

Repitition Repitition Repitition…. That is the key to build up your skills. Not Sceimmage scrimmage scrimmage. Scrimmages are good to teach tactics. (AS LONG AS THE COACH ACTUALLY USES SCRIMMAGES TO CORRECT PLAYERS AND WORK ON TACTICS THEY WANT to SEE IN THE GAME).

at MFa. They scrimmage as Free play half the time with no instruction or correction.

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Repitition Repitition Repitition…. That is the key to build up your skills. Not Sceimmage scrimmage scrimmage. Scrimmages are good to teach tactics. (AS LONG AS THE COACH ACTUALLY USES SCRIMMAGES TO CORRECT PLAYERS AND WORK ON TACTICS THEY WANT to SEE IN THE GAME).

at MFa. They scrimmage as Free play half the time with no instruction or correction.

Plenty of players can juggle and run through cones with repetition but have no decision making. There has to be a balance of each activity and simulating the game adds decision making or players then develop no vision this pass with no purpose, dribble with no purpose etc…..can’t be an extreme of one or the other. Everything needs a purpose.

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Plenty of players can juggle and run through cones with repetition but have no decision making. There has to be a balance of each activity and simulating the game adds decision making or players then develop no vision this pass with no purpose, dribble with no purpose etc…..can’t be an extreme of one or the other. Everything needs a purpose.

This. It's all about balance. And as some others have stated, perhaps what looks like "just scrimmaging" are actually very purposeful drills. And "just scrimmaging" itself has its role too (to make decisions, try to implement things you have learned, have fun for goodness sake). If there are players that can't kick a ball, then I assume you are talking pretty low level or young ages. The younger/lower level a team is, the more time should be dedicated to technical skills. If the individual technical levels of the kids on the same team are that disparate, then probably time to look for a new team.

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30 for warmup/technical/tactical. 25 for scrimmage. 5 for cool down. It depends on level, day of the week, focus points. I prefer more playing than running around cones but it all varies.

Agree that aimless scrimmages without a focal point can be counterintuitive unless the level and intensity is technical. Street soccer can be above anything that a training session can offer because of the intensity. Training must be harder than games.

every team training setting scrimmages between 20-30 minutes at the end of practice. All these people coming on here know a scrimmage wraps up techniques taught during game and apply it against opponents .