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How do we feel about kids playing DA and then being on NEP team roster!

Depends whether the players or DP players or on the roster full time. GPS, FC Stars, NEFC SUSC all have players from their top teams drop down and help out lower level teams. Especially when they play teams local to them, to try and gain leverage. All teams are guilty of this.

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You don't think a HS coach will look the other way to help win? Some will, especially if practices aren't monitored and it would be tough to prove a player missed practices. Games are much easier to prove, but HS games are almost always during the week, DA on the weekends. HS coaches also don't care about DA rules because it has nothing to do with the. Is it a shi**y way to run a team? Absolutely. Terrible life lessons.

CT has a rule that you can't do ANY club activity during your HS season. Schools with violators forfeit any games the rule breaking player was in. It even cost one school a decent run in states. MA has a similar rule to NH - can't miss HS. However, clubs that look the other way are creating more problems with the vast majority of families who follow the rules. In the long run it's foolish.

I guess maybe some coaches would... but that’s pretty risky since it’s a well known rule. I would be concerned about penalties given to the whole team if they are found to be doing this. Again, not up on DA rules so I can’t really comment on that, but at the HS level, there should be no missing of any high school practices/games for Club. If SU received a blessing to allow waivers for some players (I don’t know...), I hope that the players involved know enough not to skip HS activities for club.

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I love how everybody slates the club on an anonymous message board, but doesn’t have the guts to to Get in contact with the club or the USDA itself to find out the answers. Its obviously eating away at you, so grow a pair and get in contact.

Club/DA being notified and discussing it here are not mutually exclusive.

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Father of the U15 player quoted above - NO there is not a U15 girl playing HS - to my knowledge. I was referencing the girl on the team above us. My daughter goes to a small public HS and would have made varsity this year as a freshman. She would have loved to play both, but last June we were told point blank by the DOC that DA does NOT allow girls to play both - but obviously that's not the case.

U15 dad.... look at who played week 1 and who didn't play week 2. A little digging and you'll find you've got at least one double dipping.

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Relax keyboard warrior. All I’m saying is get all sides of the story. Not sticking up for the club, just people like you just want to bash programs without hearing from the source.

Quite the opposite. It's a tired subject. If they have been notified, then they are either OK with it or they have permission. Anonymous posting won't do anything other than just to keep adding conjecture.

If anyone really wants to go all Woodward on it, I guess they can go to the papers. Good luck getting the papers to even understand it...

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I guess maybe some coaches would... but that’s pretty risky since it’s a well known rule. I would be concerned about penalties given to the whole team if they are found to be doing this. Again, not up on DA rules so I can’t really comment on that, but at the HS level, there should be no missing of any high school practices/games for Club. If SU received a blessing to allow waivers for some players (I don’t know...), I hope that the players involved know enough not to skip HS activities for club.

You're on a DA thread but don't know the rules? Let me explain them.

- Only private school kids get waivers, which much be approved by the club and USSF. Typically only the studs the club wants to keep will get them, and by necessity they will be limited in number.
- Public school gets zero waivers.
- Even if a player has a waiver, there is to be zero GDA activity (practices or games) while the player's HS team is in session, from preseason training to post season playoffs. Once your team is officially finished THEN you can return to your club team.
- Players with no waivers who play HS are in violation of GDA rules

Pretty simple.

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You're on a DA thread but don't know the rules? Let me explain them.

- Only private school kids get waivers, which much be approved by the club and USSF. Typically only the studs the club wants to keep will get them, and by necessity they will be limited in number.
- Public school gets zero waivers.
- Even if a player has a waiver, there is to be zero GDA activity (practices or games) while the player's HS team is in session, from preseason training to post season playoffs. Once your team is officially finished THEN you can return to your club team.
- Players with no waivers who play HS are in violation of GDA rules

Pretty simple.

And players who miss high school games or practices for club are in violation of NHIAA rules.

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You're on a DA thread but don't know the rules? Let me explain them.

- Only private school kids get waivers, which much be approved by the club and USSF. Typically only the studs the club wants to keep will get them, and by necessity they will be limited in number.
- Public school gets zero waivers.
- Even if a player has a waiver, there is to be zero GDA activity (practices or games) while the player's HS team is in session, from preseason training to post season playoffs. Once your team is officially finished THEN you can return to your club team.
- Players with no waivers who play HS are in violation of GDA rules

Pretty simple.

LOL! In case you haven't noticed, this DA THREAD has turned into a DA / HS THREAD... So, get over yourself crazy-guy...

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And players who miss high school games or practices for club are in violation of NHIAA rules.

Fact: No NHIAA rules are being broken. Assumption: SU is allowing.

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Fact: No NHIAA rules are being broken. Assumption: SU is allowing.

How do you know for a fact that no HS commitment is being missed for DA? Inside knowledge?

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And players who miss high school games or practices for club are in violation of NHIAA rules.

If they're in public school. Private and prep schools have their own rules. DA waivers are suppose to be for private/prep school kids only.

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What is the penalty from US Soccer for violating a rule such as this?

Is it a severe talking to, expulsion, 2 points in the standings, etc.?

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Why Are people so dense about this?

1. Of course we all know waivers are only for prep in private school. So yes, there are no wavered players at a public school. However, if there is a player missing public high school activities for DA/club activities that is in violation of NHIAA rules.

2. Conversely, if a wavered prep/private school player is attending DA activities, that is in violation of USSF/DA rules.

3. Lastly, if ANY DA player is also playing ANY high school (prep or public) at the same time time, that is also in violation of the USSF/DA rules.

As it stands now, we only have proof that #3 is happening with a public school player (HS stats in local paper & DA game reports bear this out). This should be stopped immediately or be sanctioned. If others have proof that 1 & 2 are also happening, then the club is a disgrace and should be booted from DA immediately. And don’t give me any defense of crap about how they may have been given special permission from USSF. That did not happen, and they publicly instructed all DA players of these rules before the season.

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Why Are people so dense about this?

1. Of course we all know waivers are only for prep in private school. So yes, there are no wavered players at a public school. However, if there is a player missing public high school activities for DA/club activities that is in violation of NHIAA rules.

2. Conversely, if a wavered prep/private school player is attending DA activities, that is in violation of USSF/DA rules.

3. Lastly, if ANY DA player is also playing ANY high school (prep or public) at the same time time, that is also in violation of the USSF/DA rules.

As it stands now, we only have proof that #3 is happening with a public school player (HS stats in local paper & DA game reports bear this out). This should be stopped immediately or be sanctioned. If others have proof that 1 & 2 are also happening, then the club is a disgrace and should be booted from DA immediately. And don’t give me any defense of crap about how they may have been given special permission from USSF. That did not happen, and they publicly instructed all DA players of these rules before the season.

Was it Seacoast or USSF who reviewed the rules publicly befor the season?

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Was it Seacoast or USSF who reviewed the rules publicly befor the season?

Both. USSF lays it out to the clubs, and the clubs lay it out to the families.