2019 Boys Soccer Verbal Commitments

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Interestingly and contrary to those who think DA is EVERYTHING (ie. to play in D1), it’s spilt evenly between DA and non-DA players

Three DA players:
AST (Revs)
GL (Seacoast)
AW (Revs)

Three non-DA players:
QS Western United
GR GPS
OS Marin FC

Actually these numbers speak in favor of DA. There are only four DA clubs in New England - Revs, Bolts, Seacoast and Oakwood - that’s a very tiny pool of players considering that Seacoast and Oakwood are mostly non-MA based players - rough guess a total of 40 graduating MA based players. Then look at all the non DA clubs. In MA alone we have at least 10 with a few having at least two “elite” level teams per club - conservative guess 150 graduating MA based players. So a pool of ~40 DA players vs ~150 non-DA. So having 3 DA freshman starters vs 3 non-DA show DA players are more likely to play D1 than non-DA.

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Correction: QS has started 4 of first 6 games.

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2019 D1 Boys Starting a Lot Rev 2

Let’s see how the freshman are doing. Criteria is starting 50% or more of their games.

Player/team/G/GP/GS/G/A

Amos Shapiro Thompson/BC/6/5/5/2/0
Galen Lewis/Harvard/4/2/2/0/0
Quinn Serafino/UMass/6/6/4/1/0
Griffin Roach/BU/6/6/5/0/0
Andrew White/Lehigh/5/4/4/0/0
Owen Schwartz/Brown/4/2/2/0/0

One of the smallest D1 classes recently which is good IMO, but 6of 35 starting or 16%. Take note.

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2019 D1 Boys Starting a Lot Rev3

Let’s see how the freshman are doing. Criteria is starting 50% or more of their games.

Player/team/G/GP/GS/G/A

Amos Shapiro Thompson/BC/6/5/5/2/0
Galen Lewis/Harvard/4/2/2/0/0
Quinn Serafino/UMass/6/6/4/1/0
Griffin Roach/BU/6/6/5/0/0
Andrew White/Lehigh/5/4/4/0/0
Owen Schwartz/Brown/4/4/4/0/0

One of the smallest D1 classes recently which is good IMO, but 6of 35 starting or 16%. Take note.

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OP: Thank you. These are my favorite posts every year. It really helps put the soccer aspect of the college selection process in perspective. It's ok to go after your dream of playing in college and pick a school where you're given a chance to be on a team but you better make sure you'll be happy at that school if soccer doesn't work out the way you hope it will.

Will you be updating current sophomores, juniors and seniors as well? It's always interesting to see how things play out.

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OP: Thank you. These are my favorite posts every year. It really helps put the soccer aspect of the college selection process in perspective. It's ok to go after your dream of playing in college and pick a school where you're given a chance to be on a team but you better make sure you'll be happy at that school if soccer doesn't work out the way you hope it will.

Will you be updating current sophomores, juniors and seniors as well? It's always interesting to see how things play out.

Working on those now. Will be out soon.

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Let’s see how the freshman are doing. Criteria is starting 50% or more of their games.

Player/team/G/GP/GS/G/A

Amos Shapiro Thompson/BC/6/5/5/2/0
Galen Lewis/Harvard/4/2/2/0/0
Quinn Serafino/UMass/6/6/6/1/0
Griffin Roach/BU/6/6/5/0/0
Andrew White/Lehigh/5/4/4/0/0
Owen Schwartz/Brown/4/2/2/0/0

One of the smallest D1 classes recently which is good IMO, but 6of 35 starting or 16%. Take note.
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Went back and looked at the previous 3 years. It ranged from 10 to 20%. Not bad for freshman from Massachusetts in my opinion considering that these kids face competition from former US national team recruits, other more soccer intense regions of the country (NY/NJ, NC, CA) AND overseas recruits!!!

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Went back and looked at the previous 3 years. It ranged from 10 to 20%. Not bad for freshman from Massachusetts in my opinion considering that these kids face competition from former US national team recruits, other more soccer intense regions of the country (NY/NJ, NC, CA) AND overseas recruits!!!

yeah true huge kudos to them, but a 8.5 in 10 CHANCE OF NOT STARTING is not reassuring at all to me. It brings home the important fact that players should make sure that the college will work well for them academically and socially and that starting (or even playing much) is very very unlikely :-(

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yeah true huge kudos to them, but a 8.5 in 10 CHANCE OF NOT STARTING is not reassuring at all to me. It brings home the important fact that players should make sure that the college will work well for them academically and socially and that starting (or even playing much) is very very unlikely :-(

...This applies for D1 Soccer. Not sure about D3

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yeah true huge kudos to them, but a 8.5 in 10 CHANCE OF NOT STARTING is not reassuring at all to me. It brings home the important fact that players should make sure that the college will work well for them academically and socially and that starting (or even playing much) is very very unlikely :-(

Why? Seems almost exactly right. 6-8 new recruits joining an existing team of older, more established players. It figures that only about 1 or 2 would crack the starting lineup as freshman. What do you think goes on every year--that all 6-8 are starting right away? These statistics are exactly what these kids signed up for and everybody knows it. If you thought otherwise, then you are a fool.

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Why? Seems almost exactly right. 6-8 new recruits joining an existing team of older, more established players. It figures that only about 1 or 2 would crack the starting lineup as freshman. What do you think goes on every year--that all 6-8 are starting right away? These statistics are exactly what these kids signed up for and everybody knows it. If you thought otherwise, then you are a fool.

Well it’s news to me and these odds are very discouraging to me. I don’t want him wasting time going to practices and not seeing a minute of game time especially with travel involved. Makes me wonder whether the high cost and time of DA (Bolts) or GPS/NEFC in high school is really worth it.

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yeah true huge kudos to them, but a 8.5 in 10 CHANCE OF NOT STARTING is not reassuring at all to me. It brings home the important fact that players should make sure that the college will work well for them academically and socially and that starting (or even playing much) is very very unlikely :-(

Generally not many frosh will get much PT. It's just how it works. A stud or two on the squad will be consistent starters, some will be first subs, the rest will get token minutes. Its' the token-minute kids that have the most to worry about. If you're getting decent time and working hard you should make it to the next year. Sophomore year will really show you if you're going to make it. The odds of playing all 4 years isn't great but there's many reasons for it - injury, burnout, drop out. Most who drop out probably didn't target the right program for them, they stretched too much. Target right and the odds of playing all 4 years greatly improve.

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Well it’s news to me and these odds are very discouraging to me. I don’t want him wasting time going to practices and not seeing a minute of game time especially with travel involved. Makes me wonder whether the high cost and time of DA (Bolts) or GPS/NEFC in high school is really worth it.

See what I posted above. Also, what level is your son aiming for? To play higher level D1 DA is almost essential. It isn't as much for mid to lower level D1 or D2 and D3. D1 far more grueling and yes your spot is always on the line.

You two should have a frank talk about what his goals are and if they are realistic. If he just wants to play in college without all the intense pressure then D3 may be a better option for him, in which case he doesn't have to do DA. He will still have to continue with higher level club, but can also play in HS if he wants.

This is why I've said these threads should be mandatory reading for older middle school families. Know the odds, do your research.

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Generally not many frosh will get much PT. It's just how it works. A stud or two on the squad will be consistent starters, some will be first subs, the rest will get token minutes. Its' the token-minute kids that have the most to worry about. If you're getting decent time and working hard you should make it to the next year. Sophomore year will really show you if you're going to make it. The odds of playing all 4 years isn't great but there's many reasons for it - injury, burnout, drop out. Most who drop out probably didn't target the right program for them, they stretched too much. Target right and the odds of playing all 4 years greatly improve.

Based on the Stats the OP is publishing 1.5 out of 10 start, 2 out of ten get decent playing time all thru the four years.

This means roughly 4 out of 6 recruits targeted the wrong program?! Or did most of them eally just wanted to get into the school and playing was just gravy? It also doesn’t speak well for the coach’s ability to recruit- the success rate for them is abysmal.

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See what I posted above. Also, what level is your son aiming for? To play higher level D1 DA is almost essential. It isn't as much for mid to lower level D1 or D2 and D3. D1 far more grueling and yes your spot is always on the line.

You two should have a frank talk about what his goals are and if they are realistic. If he just wants to play in college without all the intense pressure then D3 may be a better option for him, in which case he doesn't have to do DA. He will still have to continue with higher level club, but can also play in HS if he wants.

This is why I've said these threads should be mandatory reading for older middle school families. Know the odds, do your research.

Well he’s a starter on the bolts DA u17 (at least so far anyway). He’s very good academically. With these odds I’m thinking maybe switch to a cheaper club and play high school and aim D3.