The Revolution Academy needs to make some changes.

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Girls need the social aspect more than boys. That's why parents of girls love to talk about high school soccer. Some players are motivated by more than acceptance at high school.

You’re missing the point. My D will likely end up with more money in scholarship than your boy when both play college D1 and one also played HS. Nothing to do with motivation as my kid trains diligently in and out of season, fitness, strength and conditioning, and technical work.

Sorry hoss, unless your kid going pro, he can play HS and play in college. The two aren’t exclusive and anyone telliing you differently is selling you something. In fact, all the players on the US WNT played HS and they are pros. FWIW, your kid isn’t going pro.

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You’re missing the point. My D will likely end up with more money in scholarship than your boy when both play college D1 and one also played HS. Nothing to do with motivation as my kid trains diligently in and out of season, fitness, strength and conditioning, and technical work.

Sorry hoss, unless your kid going pro, he can play HS and play in college. The two aren’t exclusive and anyone telliing you differently is selling you something. In fact, all the players on the US WNT played HS and they are pros. FWIW, your kid isn’t going pro.

Different poster - I don’t disagree with some of what you said, but girls and boys are different and the argument that the USWNT player HS is irrelevant because that was what everyone did back then. I am not the one who says a player can’t play high school and then play in college. It is just a totally different scenario for boys than girls.

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High school isn't even a consideration for the better players. They have no desire to play.

Absolute nonsense. Just look at the facts. On the boys side, the VAST majority of top New England players from the class of 2020 who are headed to D1 schools played for their high schools (public or private). Only a very small handful did not. That was their choice, and maybe that worked out for them--to each his own--but the evidence indicates that nearly all of "the better players" (if you define that as D1 commits) played for their high school teams.

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Absolute nonsense. Just look at the facts. On the boys side, the VAST majority of top New England players from the class of 2020 who are headed to D1 schools played for their high schools (public or private). Only a very small handful did not. That was their choice, and maybe that worked out for them--to each his own--but the evidence indicates that nearly all of "the better players" (if you define that as D1 commits) played for their high school teams.

Look at the Bolts U19 DA. With 22 players, it is clearly a small number, but the quality is there!
The vast majority of the player in the region are none DA, and can play HS.

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Absolute nonsense. Just look at the facts. On the boys side, the VAST majority of top New England players from the class of 2020 who are headed to D1 schools played for their high schools (public or private).

Feel free to post the initials of all these high school players headed to D1 schools for soccer.

Don't include the high school players that received waivers to play DA.

I'll wait.

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Look at the Bolts U19 DA. With 22 players, it is clearly a small number, but the quality is there!
The vast majority of the player in the region are none DA, and can play HS.

Exactly. And their top college commits—one to Princeton and the other to Cornell—both played for their high schools.

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Exactly. And their top college commits—one to Princeton and the other to Cornell—both played for their high schools.

Still waiting for the list

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Still waiting for the list

It’s published on NESJ. NEFC and GPS Mass have another 15-20 D1 commits from the class of 2020 and they all played for their HS teams as well. As did the D1 commits coming out of the boarding schools.

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BS. My D plays ECNL amd HS and is tracking to play in college. She wouldn’t give up HS, it’s been just as important for her as club, just in different ways. All you parents of boys are brainwashed. DA was junk as is US Soccer. There is a reason why in the years since DA was started, the US Men’s has dropped considerably. Those that perform at the highest levels left the US to play in Europe. Girls didn’t have DA, but ECNL and are arguable still the top of pack globally.

Keep believing the hype. Your kid will look back and hate you for pushing the BS when he could have gotten to the same place and played with his friends in HS for his community.

No one would disagree that the top of the pyramid for girls is ECNL (and thus HS) but it is a completely different story for the boys side, at least historically (and thus the discussion on the REV post). Unlike the girls side, there are not coaches recruiting at HS games and very limited exposure at Boys ECNL events. While boys would welcome the opportunity to play high school, it just hasn’t been an option if you wanted to be recruited at a Top Tier Division I college (or play on the national team, MLS Academy). Also, the DA “waiver”, while prevalent in the northeast, was generally not allowed on a national basis; many of the former DA clubs joining the Boys ECNL are still restricting players from playing on their high school team if the player selects the 10-month program.

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No one would disagree that the top of the pyramid for girls is ECNL (and thus HS) but it is a completely different story for the boys side, at least historically (and thus the discussion on the REV post). Unlike the girls side, there are not coaches recruiting at HS games and very limited exposure at Boys ECNL events. While boys would welcome the opportunity to play high school, it just hasn’t been an option if you wanted to be recruited at a Top Tier Division I college (or play on the national team, MLS Academy). Also, the DA “waiver”, while prevalent in the northeast, was generally not allowed on a national basis; many of the former DA clubs joining the Boys ECNL are still restricting players from playing on their high school team if the player selects the 10-month program.

Again. Just false. Look at the numbers. Especially in New England. More boys who play HS going to “top tier” D1 than those who do not play HS. That may be a reflection of the poor quality of the Revs program, but it’s a fact. And yes, college coaches do attend HS boys matches, especially in the ISL and the other prep leagues.

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Again. Just false. Look at the numbers. Especially in New England. More boys who play HS going to “top tier” D1 than those who do not play HS. That may be a reflection of the poor quality of the Revs program, but it’s a fact. And yes, college coaches do attend HS boys matches, especially in the ISL and the other prep leagues.

Please don't confuse big money finishing schools in the ISL with high schools.

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More boys who play HS going to “top tier” D1 than those who do not play HS.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Define "top tier" D1. Drop the DA players getting waivers and your list can be counted on one hand.

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You have no idea what you're talking about. Define "top tier" D1. Drop the DA players getting waivers and your list can be counted on one hand.

No one gets scouted from public high school soccer games....

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No one gets scouted from public high school soccer games....

ISL players do but that’s because their high school costs as much as college does and coaches know they don’t need to waste scholarship money on them.

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ISL players do but that’s because their high school costs as much as college does and coaches know they don’t need to waste scholarship money on them.

Exactly....ISL players....part of the problem with US Soccer. Pay to Play club and ISL. I rest my point. If your athletic and talented play football.