The Revolution Academy needs to make some changes.

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ProProject is where it’s at!

Exactly!!!

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Read post #13067.

Most off the current college soccer players are not from DA.

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The only thing I would add is that DA helps more players get recruited to Division 1 schools than any other league here in Massachusetts.

Really it's the prep schools that do in MA. Elsewhere in the country DA will greatly improve your chances of playing D1.

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Most off the current college soccer players are not from DA.

And since there aren’t DOZENS of DA players graduating in Massachusetts each year that would be exactly what my post communicated if you had better reading comprehension and took the time to process it. You’d rather keep picking a fight though. You’re losing by the way.

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And since there aren’t DOZENS of DA players graduating in Massachusetts each year that would be exactly what my post communicated if you had better reading comprehension and took the time to process it. You’d rather keep picking a fight though. You’re losing by the way.

Actually I said it first.

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For the poster who asked what happens when your kid joins Revs:

They basically own your kid. Kid can’t play for another club unless they are released by the Revs.

Which is why it’s hilarious to see people head over to Revs when kids are young all excited...then quickly realize maybe not a good choice and start talking about trying to go to other better MLS programs. No way Revs will release you and no way another club would get into that mess.

So then they turn to ProPeoject....

Two examples of players that have gone MLS recently: MR from Bolts to Atlanta United via one or two years at Syracuse. Signed a contract for $300k/year or something. That seems like a pretty good start to a pro career.

JR recently signed with Revs after a detour to the Bolts because the Revs DA cut him for trying out for a German team. Which is sort of understandable - if he had signed overseas I think the Revs would have gotten nothing in compensation for training him for free. He had a pretty good year or two at Indiana and now is with the Revs, presumably as a homegrown player, though probably not at MR's contract level. MLS publishes salaries so that data is out there, I'm just not motivated enough to go look for it now.

Maybe JR isn't as good as MR and that explains the difference in contracts. However, JR couldn't sign with any MLS club - the Revs held his rights. MR had the benefit of being a free agent and could sign anywhere in MLS (or overseas). So if you're a really good player with pro aspirations, and are confident you can get to that "level" at a non-MLS club (DA or otherwise), and/or that the Revs don't offer that much development for you, there's not much reason to choose MLS DA. Or at least not Revs DA.

On the other hand, if you're willing to skip college entirely, Revs DA might make sense as there are a few homegrown players with the Revs now. College doesn't seem like it's going to be a source for MLS players (the Union didn't draft any college kids). If the Revs had a USL team, those homegrown players could continue their development at a pro level. I think the Revs just loaned a couple of them out - but hard to tell if that was to make them go away or as a next step.

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Actually I said it first.

Pay better attention, you’ll type less.

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Two examples of players that have gone MLS recently: MR from Bolts to Atlanta United via one or two years at Syracuse. Signed a contract for $300k/year or something. That seems like a pretty good start to a pro career.

JR recently signed with Revs after a detour to the Bolts because the Revs DA cut him for trying out for a German team. Which is sort of understandable - if he had signed overseas I think the Revs would have gotten nothing in compensation for training him for free. He had a pretty good year or two at Indiana and now is with the Revs, presumably as a homegrown player, though probably not at MR's contract level. MLS publishes salaries so that data is out there, I'm just not motivated enough to go look for it now.

Maybe JR isn't as good as MR and that explains the difference in contracts. However, JR couldn't sign with any MLS club - the Revs held his rights. MR had the benefit of being a free agent and could sign anywhere in MLS (or overseas). So if you're a really good player with pro aspirations, and are confident you can get to that "level" at a non-MLS club (DA or otherwise), and/or that the Revs don't offer that much development for you, there's not much reason to choose MLS DA. Or at least not Revs DA.

On the other hand, if you're willing to skip college entirely, Revs DA might make sense as there are a few homegrown players with the Revs now. College doesn't seem like it's going to be a source for MLS players (the Union didn't draft any college kids). If the Revs had a USL team, those homegrown players could continue their development at a pro level. I think the Revs just loaned a couple of them out - but hard to tell if that was to make them go away or as a next step.

If you are serious about becoming a pro player, college soccer is not helpful, and probably harmful.

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Two examples of players that have gone MLS recently: MR from Bolts to Atlanta United via one or two years at Syracuse. Signed a contract for $300k/year or something. That seems like a pretty good start to a pro career.

JR recently signed with Revs after a detour to the Bolts because the Revs DA cut him for trying out for a German team. Which is sort of understandable - if he had signed overseas I think the Revs would have gotten nothing in compensation for training him for free. He had a pretty good year or two at Indiana and now is with the Revs, presumably as a homegrown player, though probably not at MR's contract level. MLS publishes salaries so that data is out there, I'm just not motivated enough to go look for it now.

Maybe JR isn't as good as MR and that explains the difference in contracts. However, JR couldn't sign with any MLS club - the Revs held his rights. MR had the benefit of being a free agent and could sign anywhere in MLS (or overseas). So if you're a really good player with pro aspirations, and are confident you can get to that "level" at a non-MLS club (DA or otherwise), and/or that the Revs don't offer that much development for you, there's not much reason to choose MLS DA. Or at least not Revs DA.

On the other hand, if you're willing to skip college entirely, Revs DA might make sense as there are a few homegrown players with the Revs now. College doesn't seem like it's going to be a source for MLS players (the Union didn't draft any college kids). If the Revs had a USL team, those homegrown players could continue their development at a pro level. I think the Revs just loaned a couple of them out - but hard to tell if that was to make them go away or as a next step.

Simply put, no one should willingly confine themselves to the Revs.

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Simply put, no one should willingly confine themselves to the Revs.

Yup. Didn't at least one kid escape to Seattle? If you really want the pros and realistically have a shot, do what you can to get on another team, US or abroad.

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ProProject is where it’s at!

They “invited” my son to join. We laughed and laughed about it.

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Yup. Didn't at least one kid escape to Seattle? If you really want the pros and realistically have a shot, do what you can to get on another team, US or abroad.

Two Seacoast kids escaped the Revs.

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They “invited” my son to join. We laughed and laughed about it.

There is nothing to join. If you are good enough you just sign up for individual sessions.

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There is nothing to join. If you are good enough you just sign up for individual sessions.

They were selling packages. Training. College recruiting. Video. Blah, blah, blah.

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Simply put, no one should willingly confine themselves to the Revs.

I was trying to be fair and balanced. It will be interesting to see if any of the HG Revs sign anywhere else or if they're so specifically developed they only have value for the Revs. (Only being a little snarky.)

When MLS was just getting going and trying to survive, the Krafts could get away with them being the Buffalo Bills equivalent as far as on-field performance goes. But now there are too many owners spending YUGE dollars and the Revs just can't compete. Theoretically, if they had a great academy along the lines of Ajax, Southampton, Dallas ;), they could compete.

And Friedel acts like a douche. Can't see the players running through walls for him. They won't even put in a shift, as he's complained about. On the bright side, maybe he'll say eff it and let the homegrowns play and we'll see what they've got. Would be great to see them succeed despite everything.