The Revolution Academy needs to make some changes.

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Worry less. Kids at the Revs enjoy themselves and will continue to play at high levels attending any college of their choice.

You wanna "go pro", join the krazies overseas making their kids blue collar for life.

You can repeat and repeat yourself over and over again but it still isn't going to make it true.
The US does not play at a "high" level at any time in any league in any age group.

Going overseas to train not only puts you at an advantage for college applications, but also for soccer scholarships and life experience.

The little bubble you live in obviously makes you unhappy and you keep needing to justify it. So sorry!

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You can repeat and repeat yourself over and over again but it still isn't going to make it true.
The US does not play at a "high" level at any time in any league in any age group.

Going overseas to train not only puts you at an advantage for college applications, but also for soccer scholarships and life experience.

The little bubble you live in obviously makes you unhappy and you keep needing to justify it. So sorry!

Nor are the Revs a "high level" DA club; results are very inconsistent, no championships, players leave for prep school. Based on their recruiting lists over the years I don't buy that they all are playing at their top college choices either. Most players aspire to play the best, then the reality of where they can actually land a spot sets in. A MLS club should outpace non MLS clubs in recruiting by a wide margin, but the Revs are not.

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Nor are the Revs a "high level" DA club; results are very inconsistent, no championships, players leave for prep school. Based on their recruiting lists over the years I don't buy that they all are playing at their top college choices either. Most players aspire to play the best, then the reality of where they can actually land a spot sets in. A MLS club should outpace non MLS clubs in recruiting by a wide margin, but the Revs are not.

They are actually behind local pay to play clubs.

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Going overseas to train not only puts you at an advantage for college applications, but also for soccer scholarships and life experience.

Maybe it puts you at an advantage at some middling soccer program at a run of the mill D2 school, but it will be detrimental for truly competitive academic institutions.

If you want a piece of paper with your name on it after 4 years and an unimpressive college soccer career you might be on the right track.

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They are actually behind local pay to play clubs.

This doesn't surprise me at all. I suspect this may in large part have to do with academics. Just a guess here, but it's possible many of the Revs players are relying solely on soccer scholarships to pay for college. They have to go lower down in the D1 list to get those bigger packages.

Many of the DA players who have parents wealthy enough to make it through the pay-to-play systems have pretty solid academics (some getting waivers and attending prep schools), as this was the family's focus all along, DA being just something on the resume to help them get into the college of their choice. These kids are not relying on full scholarships, some will accept attending their top college choice with no scholarship offer, or be happy with the merit aid they receive due to their excellent academic standing. You can't really compare these two groups. A more accurate comparison would be where kids who are getting full rides based on athletic scholarships from each club are going attend college. Unfortunately, this isn't publicized.

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A more accurate comparison would be where kids who are getting full rides based on athletic scholarships from each club are going attend college. Unfortunately, this isn't publicized.

There are 46 players listed under D1 and D2 in the 2018 College Commit list.

I bet none of them are getting a full ride. If there happens to be 1, I bet it doesn't last all 4 years of school.

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There are 46 players listed under D1 and D2 in the 2018 College Commit list.

I bet none of them are getting a full ride. If there happens to be 1, I bet it doesn't last all 4 years of school.

You sound so happy. I hope it does for the kids that need it.

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You sound so happy. I hope it does for the kids that need it.

I'm completely indifferent. I'm also a realist.

When you says kids that "need it" are you talking about the wealthy kids with parents that can't afford college because they spent too much on soccer, or the kids with EFC's under $5,000 that qualify for federal grants, scholarships and financial aid?

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I'm completely indifferent. I'm also a realist.

When you says kids that "need it" are you talking about the wealthy kids with parents that can't afford college because they spent too much on soccer, or the kids with EFC's under $5,000 that qualify for federal grants, scholarships and financial aid?

You sound indifferent....I don't know any wealthy kids who spend so much on soccer than their parents can't afford college. College is a lot more expensive than soccer.

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You sound indifferent....I don't know any wealthy kids who spend so much on soccer than their parents can't afford college. College is a lot more expensive than soccer.

So define need. You'd be surprised at what seemingly "wealthy" parents can and can't afford.

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D1 teams have 9.9 scholarships and average rosters of 29 players.

It's simple math. No emotion. The "full ride" in men's soccer is a unicorn.

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D1 teams have 9.9 scholarships and average rosters of 29 players.

It's simple math. No emotion. The "full ride" in men's soccer is a unicorn.

And that 9.9 is if they're fully funded.

Full athletic rides are saved for the NT players from Greece or Spain or Bolivia, even US NT players. A typical male player will never sniff anything close to a full athletic ride - only if combined with great academic money or financial aid. Even on the women's side fulls are not common but happen more often than men's. With 14 scholarships to divide on a fully funded women's team a large number of players will be in the 50% range. With men you're doing well if you get 25-30%.

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Interesting...

At the recent Generation adidas Cup, MLSsoccer.com conducted an informal five-question survey with 10 academy coaches that cut to the core of the current youth development scene in North America. You can find the questions and answers below.

One interesting piece to note is the response to question No. 5. When asked what was the most important trait a youth player can have, most of the coaches said they believe the player's character was most important, rather than high marks in technical ability, tactical IQ or physical ability.

A player's character encompasses his will to succeed, his ability to deal with adversity, and his ability to lead, among many other characteristics. A common sentiment at the tournament was that it cannot be all on the coaches to bring a player through the academy, but it is the player who has to take ownership over his own future. Without the player doing so, it's almost impossible for him to succeed, the coaches said.

1. How many hours per week should a 16-year-old play?

1. 12 (5 votes)
T-2. 15 (1 vote)
T-2. 10 (1 vote)
T-2. 8-12 (1 vote)
T-2. 12-14 (1 vote)
T-2. 12-18 (1 vote)

2. At what age should results matter?

1. 15 (3 votes)
T-2. 13 (2 votes)
T-2. 14 (2 votes)
T-2. 16 (2 votes)
5. N/A (1 vote)

3. At what age should a player be steered towards a specific position?

1. 15 (3 votes)
T-2. 13 (2 votes)
T-2. 14 (2 votes)
T-4. 10-13 (1 vote)
T-4. 16 (1 vote)
6. N/A (1 vote)

4. What is the biggest change you have seen over the past few years?

Talent pool improvement
Commitment from MLS
Increased technical ability of players
Growth of MLS academies
Separation of MLS academies from non-MLS academies
Increased resources
Players choosing soccer over other sports
Clubs developing their own identities
More international competition
5. What is the most important trait in a youth player?

1. Character (5 votes)
2. Tactical IQ (2 votes)
T-3. Tactical IQ/Ball control (1 vote)
T-3. Technical ability (1 vote)
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I can't believe how few Revs players are going on to college soccer this year. What happened?

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I can't believe how few Revs players are going on to college soccer this year. What happened?

That roster is very small - 15 players on the official DA roster. In theory some could be juniors, but looking at the roster all but one player are graduating this year (14 of 15 graduating). It's possible if any are doing D3 they haven't received acceptances yet? That's the only other excuse I can think of, that or the Revs just don't care about listing D3 commits. All of them are certainly good enough to be playing somewhere.


http://nerv.ussoccerda.com/sam/teams...p?team=3940620