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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    What do people think that the Revs actually do to develop players? Think about it- do you think your kid will improve at the Revs? Or just get noticed by scouts? In three years, will he be a better player?
    My kid has become a better player in just a few months at the Revs. In three years he will be a much better player if he continues on this path. If that changes he will want to go elsewhere.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      What do people think that the Revs actually do to develop players? Think about it- do you think your kid will improve at the Revs? Or just get noticed by scouts? In three years, will he be a better player?
      Tell us where the the super club is that knows the secret!!

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I wrote the complimentary post about KV. Again, zero connection to Revs or KV. Son played against him for years at Bayside and I attend academy games when possible. Most gifted player in the area but Revs have put shackles on him since they got him. Shame and a waste.
        I'm not quite clear how the Revs "have put shackles on him" in that they have allowed him to play up quite a bit and have started him many, many times. They don't prevent him from getting the ball and unleashing his skills. I agree that he is a smart, highly skilled player. He has had a couple of cracks at getting past the YNT pool stage, but hasn't managed to catch on (yet). Size, speed, and strength may be working against him at the highest levels.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          My kid has become a better player in just a few months at the Revs. In three years he will be a much better player if he continues on this path. If that changes he will want to go elsewhere.
          Really? Seriously? How is that possible?

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Really? Seriously? How is that possible?
            Maybe their kid is just better than yours...i know its an odd concept, but it may be true.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Really? Seriously? How is that possible?
              The improvement curve is not linear- it's a inverted parabola. Depends on where your kid was to start. If he was at the vertex when he started Revs, he has only one way to go.

              If he starts on the positive root, he can certainly improve.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                The improvement curve is not linear- it's a inverted parabola. Depends on where your kid was to start. If he was at the vertex when he started Revs, he has only one way to go.

                If he starts on the positive root, he can certainly improve.
                Lithium?

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  I'm not quite clear how the Revs "have put shackles on him" in that they have allowed him to play up quite a bit and have started him many, many times. They don't prevent him from getting the ball and unleashing his skills. I agree that he is a smart, highly skilled player. He has had a couple of cracks at getting past the YNT pool stage, but hasn't managed to catch on (yet). Size, speed, and strength may be working against him at the highest levels.
                  Yes, much has changed and yet nothing change as to how the Revs and USNT evaluate and develop players. Strength and speed are still value over creativity and intelligent. With the Revs, it has little to do with the players but rather poor style of play. Doesn't help when you bypass the midfield or their touches is less than 50% passing in transitions. I been to couple of their games and amazed as to how they play. If you don't believe me go watch last year's game U16 vs SKC. Out played and out class. Revs will say their are only looking at individual development vs team play. Which begs the question as to the priority of the DA program. Are they developing players for the first team or are they a development program for colleges?

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Yes, much has changed and yet nothing change as to how the Revs and USNT evaluate and develop players. Strength and speed are still value over creativity and intelligent. With the Revs, it has little to do with the players but rather poor style of play. Doesn't help when you bypass the midfield or their touches is less than 50% passing in transitions. I been to couple of their games and amazed as to how they play. If you don't believe me go watch last year's game U16 vs SKC. Out played and out class. Revs will say their are only looking at individual development vs team play. Which begs the question as to the priority of the DA program. Are they developing players for the first team or are they a development program for colleges?
                    Even if their primary goal is to develop individual players, these players still need to understand how to work effectively within the team or they will be useless. I guess it would be nice to know what the real differences are between a club focused on individual development vs. team development. My simple understanding of the main difference is that players in an individual development model are given considerable opportunity to learn to play at multiple positions, and are thus an attribute to any team they end up on, whereas as clubs focusing on team development only put players in their strongest positions in order for the team to play their best each and every game.

                    From what I have seen of the DA games at the U15/16 & U17/18 levels over the past three or four years, players seem to be stuck in one position only, with maybe a switch from the left side of the field to the right, from game to game. I don't see a lot of teams clearly focused on individual development, but I could be wrong. Or maybe that's just what teams claim to be doing as an excuse for a losing record?

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Even if their primary goal is to develop individual players, these players still need to understand how to work effectively within the team or they will be useless. I guess it would be nice to know what the real differences are between a club focused on individual development vs. team development. My simple understanding of the main difference is that players in an individual development model are given considerable opportunity to learn to play at multiple positions, and are thus an attribute to any team they end up on, whereas as clubs focusing on team development only put players in their strongest positions in order for the team to play their best each and every game.

                      From what I have seen of the DA games at the U15/16 & U17/18 levels over the past three or four years, players seem to be stuck in one position only, with maybe a switch from the left side of the field to the right, from game to game. I don't see a lot of teams clearly focused on individual development, but I could be wrong. Or maybe that's just what teams claim to be doing as an excuse for a losing record?
                      Sorry, forgot one other important aspect of a development model, which is allowing kids to play up for accelerated development. In the respect, the Revs are doing very well.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Even if their primary goal is to develop individual players, these players still need to understand how to work effectively within the team or they will be useless. I guess it would be nice to know what the real differences are between a club focused on individual development vs. team development. My simple understanding of the main difference is that players in an individual development model are given considerable opportunity to learn to play at multiple positions, and are thus an attribute to any team they end up on, whereas as clubs focusing on team development only put players in their strongest positions in order for the team to play their best each and every game.

                        From what I have seen of the DA games at the U15/16 & U17/18 levels over the past three or four years, players seem to be stuck in one position only, with maybe a switch from the left side of the field to the right, from game to game. I don't see a lot of teams clearly focused on individual development, but I could be wrong. Or maybe that's just what teams claim to be doing as an excuse for a losing record?
                        By U14 and up players are starting to become specialize in their positions of strength. Development typically occurs in U13 and under. Some players may be able to adjust later due to their physical and skill attributions.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          By U14 and up players are starting to become specialize in their positions of strength. Development typically occurs in U13 and under. Some players may be able to adjust later due to their physical and skill attributions.
                          Problems with the Revs coaching staff are many lack the qualifications to coach at that level so they have little to contribute to the players development.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Sorry, forgot one other important aspect of a development model, which is allowing kids to play up for accelerated development. In the respect, the Revs are doing very well.
                            Sure if your kid is playing up. But from the posts, all the teams play the same style, which is a primary issue with the Revs. So playing up is just playing with bigger, faster, or stronger players but still playing the same inefficient game at the same old position.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Problems with the Revs coaching staff are many lack the qualifications to coach at that level so they have little to contribute to the players development.
                              Everybody knows that the Revs are interesting in developing a small handful of players at the younger ages, who can do whatever they want on the field and will continue to play entire games, start, etc. This is how development works. You let players make mistakes and then allow them time to correct themselves or to see what else they can do with their time on the field.

                              If your kid is on the field for only 25 minutes, how will the coaches ever know what he can do in the multiple types of situations that arise during each game. Well, he doesn't care. Simply as that.

                              If your kid is not playing at least 3/4 of a game, most games, then you should leave (unless you are already 17 yrs and need a final push to get into a decent college/team.)

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                By U14 and up players are starting to become specialize in their positions of strength. Development typically occurs in U13 and under. Some players may be able to adjust later due to their physical and skill attributions.
                                That's the problem. Even at U14 kids, especially boy's many of which are just entering puberty, should still be playing multiple positions. Especially ones as talented as those on the Revs. Sure, a large target forward might only really fit as a center back or holding midfielder, but he should still get the opportunity to learn different roles on the field.

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