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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Wait a minute wait a minute.

    Revs only care about a certain small number of players. However, none of the players can get extra training elsewhere. Therefore, they are suppressing the development of the majority of players. Otherwise, it would seem that they would be happy for players to get training elsewhere so they wouldn't have to do all the work. Interesting model.
    My kid played so much more in the past. I don't miss all the practices and teams but he does.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Wait a minute wait a minute.

      Revs only care about a certain small number of players. However, none of the players can get extra training elsewhere. Therefore, they are suppressing the development of the majority of players. Otherwise, it would seem that they would be happy for players to get training elsewhere so they wouldn't have to do all the work. Interesting model.
      Nobody said the Revs' model made any sense. From top to bottom, it's an interesting contrast with the Patriots. If the Krafts' attention focused on the Revs, they'd (hopefully, probably) realize the differences in how the organizations have performed.

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        From http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/the91...s/#more-42451:

        There is an exceedingly specific way to build in MLS. The league is young and restrictive enough in an acquisition sense to narrow the pathway to wins to only a couple tracks. But the pathway to consistent wins, year over year, is even narrower. You have to build, and you have to keep your cap space clean, and you have to use the TAM rule, and you absolutely have to have depth. And with a salary cap south of $4 million (it is a hard thing to reconcile, every time you see it), cap-friendly depth comes from within. From the draft. From re-purposed veterans. From your own academy.

        This last pillar is maybe the most important in the league’s next iteration because it is the most malleable of the three. It’s the only way to actually build a roster that adheres to your own principles, and there are only a few teams in MLS that even have discernible principles. I’d argue you can’t, in any real way, without a working academy pipeline to the first team bench.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Nobody said the Revs' model made any sense. From top to bottom, it's an interesting contrast with the Patriots. If the Krafts' attention focused on the Revs, they'd (hopefully, probably) realize the differences in how the organizations have performed.
          Get lucky with a low-round pick you passed on 5 times? Press the boundaries of what's legal and see if it's caught? Get people off the scrapheap and convince them to do right, and you'll win? Play in a crappy division where you're guaranteed 6 wins a year, minimum?

          What model are we referring to?

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            The Revs coaching staff are not the best and the brightest of the bunch. If you want true development hire someone for the top euro or SA academies and give them total control of player development. Sorry to say nobody respects the current leadership and staff. You get what you paid for.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              The Revs coaching staff are not the best and the brightest of the bunch. If you want true development hire someone for the top euro or SA academies and give them total control of player development. Sorry to say nobody respects the current leadership and staff. You get what you paid for.
              Squeak!

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                My kid played so much more in the past. I don't miss all the practices and teams but he does.
                Some kids play the same position at every practice and every game. Some play multiple positions at practices and games. Obviously, playing different positions is always better for the player, but what is the translation in academy? (Any academy)

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Get lucky with a low-round pick you passed on 5 times? Press the boundaries of what's legal and see if it's caught? Get people off the scrapheap and convince them to do right, and you'll win? Play in a crappy division where you're guaranteed 6 wins a year, minimum?

                  What model are we referring to?
                  Just WIN, baby! You gotta start drinking the TB12 coolaid. Or whatever his huckster buddy is selling.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Wait a minute wait a minute.

                    Revs only care about a certain small number of players. However, none of the players can get extra training elsewhere. Therefore, they are suppressing the development of the majority of players. Otherwise, it would seem that they would be happy for players to get training elsewhere so they wouldn't have to do all the work. Interesting model.
                    I don't think this is accurate that none of the players can get extra training elsewhere... Are you sure about that?

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I don't think this is accurate that none of the players can get extra training elsewhere... Are you sure about that?
                      I think that is the rule, no?

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                        Stop whining.

                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The Revs coaching staff are not the best and the brightest of the bunch. If you want true development hire someone for the top euro or SA academies and give them total control of player development. Sorry to say nobody respects the current leadership and staff. You get what you paid for.
                        You do get what you pay for. Sub-par is the external training snuck in by over-anxious helicopter parents who see their own dismal reflection off their shiny beer guts. The kids love the training and many of them are thriving as they should. How could you possibly know how dismal or bright the coaches are in this closed environment? You must be someone they mistakenly let in for some reason with a kid not advancing. Stop whining.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          The Revs coaching staff are not the best and the brightest of the bunch. If you want true development hire someone for the top euro or SA academies and give them total control of player development. Sorry to say nobody respects the current leadership and staff. You get what you paid for.
                          How can you possibly know this

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            I think that is the rule, no?
                            From DA Website

                            Academy players and teams cannot play in any outside competitions without written permission from the Development Academy staff. This includes any other leagues, high school season, tournaments, State Cup competitions, ODP or All-Star events. There are two potential exceptions to this rule, provided they are approved by Development Academy staff:
                            1. Domestic and international tournaments: Domestic & international tournaments may be permitted if they meet Academy's technical standards of one game per day and elite competition. Examples of permitted events include the Dallas Cup, Surf Cup, Disney Showcase, and other International events
                            2. Possibility for friendly games: Academy clubs can schedule friendly games to provide players with a heightened development experience. The games must not be part of an organized competition (i.e. tournament, league or camp) as defined in the non-participation regulations, and all competitions must adhere to all Academy standards and guidelines

                            and from a different page


                            No Outside Activity/Competitions

                            To maintain a focus on club training environments, Academy players and teams do not play in any outside competitions without written permission from the U.S. Soccer Development Academy staff. This includes any other leagues, tournaments, State Cup competitions, ODP or All-Star events. Development Academy players for all teams must choose to participate in the Academy full-time and forgo playing for their high school teams.

                            Full-time Academy players can only participate on their designated Academy team, with only two exceptions: U.S. Soccer Training Centers and Youth National Team duty.

                            The Development Academy upholds this rule because we believe elite players require world class environments. The Development Academy's 10-month Program allows for a greater opportunity to institute style of play and implement a system according to U.S. Soccer's Development Philosophy. It also gives teams increased opportunities for younger kids in their club to "play up" against older players in both training and matches, thereby accelerating their development.

                            Clubs will also tell your not to or else. Good luck explaining an injury sustained playing elsewhere. I guess lots of kids "fall down the stairs"?

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              How can you possibly know this
                              We've all seen them at RDS. Same guys and same drills. Now we get to see them on game day. It's clear as day.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                We've all seen them at RDS. Same guys and same drills. Now we get to see them on game day. It's clear as day.
                                Squeak, squeak, squeak!!!

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