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Yes, I'm sure most of the kids new to Revs this year probably had more training and playing opportunities over the past few years as U-littles, both through their own club and outside training (clinics, leagues, camps, personal training, etc.). Now their hands are tied.

Yes pretty much that. But USDA will tell you their curriculum is better for development. Clearly it shows in how much the men's team has improved (lol) and how many DA players are capturing top D1 spots over international players (lol)

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Yes pretty much that. But USDA will tell you their curriculum is better for development. Clearly it shows in how much the men's team has improved (lol) and how many DA players are capturing top D1 spots over international players (lol)

mind boggling

the serious players will play somewhere somehow regardless of the us training curriculum but so many lost opportunities to get it right now

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mind boggling

the serious players will play somewhere somehow regardless of the us training curriculum but so many lost opportunities to get it right now

Well USSF only cares about NT potential players. Those players do get extra training opportunities. The remaining 98% are practice players for them. USSF doesn't care about their development.

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Well USSF only cares about NT potential players. Those players do get extra training opportunities. The remaining 98% are practice players for them. USSF doesn't care about their development.

Not sure what the obsession a few people have on the number of practices. People are free to play for a different club if they want to. You could look into playing for a residential DA Academy. Teams like Sporting Kansas and Phil Union have kids from many different states.

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Well USSF only cares about NT potential players. Those players do get extra training opportunities. The remaining 98% are practice players for them. USSF doesn't care about their development.

How is this potential defined? What is their success rate in identifying these players in that those identified and focused on make the NT? Do they identify them at age 16 or so?

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Not sure what the obsession a few people have on the number of practices. People are free to play for a different club if they want to. You could look into playing for a residential DA Academy. Teams like Sporting Kansas and Phil Union have kids from many different states.

No I think people are obsessed with hypocrisy of the system. Undelivered promises, special treatment for certain players (eg HS waivers), politics, "best coaches", "best development model", only the "best" players and clubs yet it's a massive organization filled with plenty not top talent and clubs.

And that it will make US soccer better. LMAO

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Well USSF only cares about NT potential players. Those players do get extra training opportunities. The remaining 98% are practice players for them. USSF doesn't care about their development.

Spot on!

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No I think people are obsessed with hypocrisy of the system. Undelivered promises, special treatment for certain players (eg HS waivers), politics, "best coaches", "best development model", only the "best" players and clubs yet it's a massive organization filled with plenty not top talent and clubs.

And that it will make US soccer better. LMAO

that hits the nail on the head

the usmnt is not good so they seem to be trying to improve early identification with U12DAP and U13 teams

but they may be getting into the system too early if the training is below par
also the small kids may be big kids and the big kids may be small as adults
maybe they should have the parents line up before they choose favorites LOL

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I would not extrapolate what the Revs do across all DA or even MLS programs. Existing and new MLS clubs have attracted significant investment in terms of dollars, soccer-specific stadiums and coaching staff (more recently Tata (!), Viera, Ernie Stewart). Several MLS clubs invest in residential academies and FC Dallas winning U16 and U18 championships two years running would seem to indicate they're doing something more than benefiting from an abundance of local talent.

There are many bright spots for MLS and US Soccer. Just not here in New England at this point. The NE region might lack talent. Or the Revs might not identify the right players. Or maybe they can't develop them properly. Or a combination of all three. But everything starts from the top and if the Krafts don't make the Revs a priority I doubt there's a Moneyball way for the Revs to compete successfully at any level. They had a nice couple years but that pre-dates the recent influx of investment (MLS has gotten more competitive) and they had Jones (coincidence that CO Rapids are contending for Supporters' Shield?) and maybe a lucky hot streak through the playoffs. Not exactly something repeatable.

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I would not extrapolate what the Revs do across all DA or even MLS programs. Existing and new MLS clubs have attracted significant investment in terms of dollars, soccer-specific stadiums and coaching staff (more recently Tata (!), Viera, Ernie Stewart). Several MLS clubs invest in residential academies and FC Dallas winning U16 and U18 championships two years running would seem to indicate they're doing something more than benefiting from an abundance of local talent.

There are many bright spots for MLS and US Soccer. Just not here in New England at this point. The NE region might lack talent. Or the Revs might not identify the right players. Or maybe they can't develop them properly. Or a combination of all three. But everything starts from the top and if the Krafts don't make the Revs a priority I doubt there's a Moneyball way for the Revs to compete successfully at any level. They had a nice couple years but that pre-dates the recent influx of investment (MLS has gotten more competitive) and they had Jones (coincidence that CO Rapids are contending for Supporters' Shield?) and maybe a lucky hot streak through the playoffs. Not exactly something repeatable.

which have residential programs? Union, Sporting, anyone else?

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Best Academy in US

Spot on!

"We train five times a week, along with our integration with the pro team."

http://www.ussoccerda.com/FC-Dallas-...opment-Feature

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No I think people are obsessed with hypocrisy of the system. Undelivered promises, special treatment for certain players (eg HS waivers), politics, "best coaches", "best development model", only the "best" players and clubs yet it's a massive organization filled with plenty not top talent and clubs.

And that it will make US soccer better. LMAO

uhhh DA minimum standards: U-13 players play in 50% of minutes per month
another violation

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which have residential programs? Union, Sporting, anyone else?

I believe that Real Salt Lake had the first MLS residential academy, based in Arizona with U16/U18 teams. It also has a U13 team in Salt Lake that is not residential. They are planning to build a facility in Utah, around 20 minutes from their stadium (Rio Tinto), and move the Arizona teams up there. It would also be home to their USL team, Real Monarchs. It is estimated to cost about $45-50 million more than what Kraft is likely to spend on anything academy related.

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which have residential programs? Union, Sporting, anyone else?

http://www.dirtysouthsoccer.com/2016...academy-system

RSL are spending $50-75 million to build facility/academy in Utah. Atlanta, Minnesota building stadiums/facilities and even Crew talking about a new stadium. It's all kind of moot because just like Klinsmann said Pulisic wouldn't have gotten a start in MLS, I'm not sure Heaps would recognize home grown talent. He comes from the college model and that's what he knows best.

That's not to say that a residential academy is the best for everyone and for every club. Just that the stakes are higher and Krafts aren't likely to ante up. But if they're paying attention to NFL ratings now might be a good time to hedge.

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Well USSF only cares about NT potential players. Those players do get extra training opportunities. The remaining 98% are practice players for them. USSF doesn't care about their development.

Wait a minute wait a minute.

Revs only care about a certain small number of players. However, none of the players can get extra training elsewhere. Therefore, they are suppressing the development of the majority of players. Otherwise, it would seem that they would be happy for players to get training elsewhere so they wouldn't have to do all the work. Interesting model.