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Why so much NYCFC hate Revs supporters? Oh I get it - you thought you'd have it easier with Red Bulls gone. Yet with all the talent in the area and supposed professional resources the Revs can't break out of the middle of the pack.

Hey Jeff, they're ripping you up on BOTN and so you come here to promote your kid? He's not National Team material.

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20% mandated playing is time misleading

20% mandated playing time.
Starters are rotated for development reasons.
Positions are rotated at the younger ages as well.
Players asked to play up (so don't nec. start on their team)

Don't think the Revs take "bench" players.

Actually the "20%" is starting time not total play time, so a player can start and be taken out and get 20% start time and get no real playing time. More over for kids that might otherwise play full games with another club even playing 20% of a game will not be good for development. No matter the club, the claims "we focus on development not winning" is BS if there is a kid they see as better than yours they will work on "developing" him more than yours, they want the win. If your kids isn't getting play time, he is not developing, move him to a team that will. He will have more fun and grow as a player. Stop drinking what they are serving and do want is best for your kid.

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Actually the "20%" is starting time not total play time, so a player can start and be taken out and get 20% start time and get no real playing time. More over for kids that might otherwise play full games with another club even playing 20% of a game will not be good for development. No matter the club, the claims "we focus on development not winning" is BS if there is a kid they see as better than yours they will work on "developing" him more than yours, they want the win. If your kids isn't getting play time, he is not developing, move him to a team that will. He will have more fun and grow as a player. Stop drinking what they are serving and do want is best for your kid.

Agreed ...

Revs do focus on "developing" over winning. But they are only concerned (as is their mandate) with "Developing" top level players with the chance to play at the National team level (and / or MLS-level). They absolutely are not there to spend equal time with each kid, or give equal playing time to each kid. They are trying to identify and then develop the handful of kids who they can promote to the National Team and / or the Revs first team.

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Agreed ...

Revs do focus on "developing" over winning. But they are only concerned (as is their mandate) with "Developing" top level players with the chance to play at the National team level (and / or MLS-level). They absolutely are not there to spend equal time with each kid, or give equal playing time to each kid. They are trying to identify and then develop the handful of kids who they can promote to the National Team and / or the Revs first team.

Give it a rest already. We've seen your teams play.

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Actually the "20%" is starting time not total play time, so a player can start and be taken out and get 20% start time and get no real playing time. More over for kids that might otherwise play full games with another club even playing 20% of a game will not be good for development. No matter the club, the claims "we focus on development not winning" is BS if there is a kid they see as better than yours they will work on "developing" him more than yours, they want the win. If your kids isn't getting play time, he is not developing, move him to a team that will. He will have more fun and grow as a player. Stop drinking what they are serving and do want is best for your kid.

The Revs and others are know for doing this (start and then pull), and sometimes just not even following the start rule altogether. Like it or not DA clubs still care about winning, despite "development" being in the name. Coaches have big egos and are highly competitive. Also the non MLS clubs especially need strong records to keep and attract talent that otherwise might want to go to an MLS club if they can.

It's always hard to assess where your kid might fit in on a roster. But if you have any inkling he/she won't be a starter or maybe #1-15 then carefully consider all your options. Obvioulsy then once play starts and there's no PT it might be better to exit quickly. The "Best" club might not be the best club for your player

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Agreed ...

Revs do focus on "developing" over winning. But they are only concerned (as is their mandate) with "Developing" top level players with the chance to play at the National team level (and / or MLS-level). They absolutely are not there to spend equal time with each kid, or give equal playing time to each kid. They are trying to identify and then develop the handful of kids who they can promote to the National Team and / or the Revs first team.

That can be said of DA and USSF in general. They only care about the top 2% and the rest are practice players for the top 2%. Parents of girls have seen that and that's why GDA is not going to be the knock out success UFFS thinks it will be.

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That can be said of DA and USSF in general. They only care about the top 2% and the rest are practice players for the top 2%. Parents of girls have seen that and that's why GDA is not going to be the knock out success UFFS thinks it will be.

Do you think it isn't like that around the world at places like Ajax? Players like Sneijder were absolutely given more individual attention than the average player on the roster. All development academies should be polishing their diamonds.

And no, I am not saying that the Revolution Academy is even close to the quality of Ajax on any level.

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Give it a rest already. We've seen your teams play.

Exactly .. It's not about the teams. It's about trying to find those 1 or 2 kids per year who they think can make it ... Whether it's simply lucking out that someone that good grew up in NE, or moved to the area, or that they actually were the exact right developer of a diamond in the rough, they don't care ... Just trying to find the top 2% (as another poster called it) and spend their time and effort on them.

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Exactly .. It's not about the teams. It's about trying to find those 1 or 2 kids per year who they think can make it ... Whether it's simply lucking out that someone that good grew up in NE, or moved to the area, or that they actually were the exact right developer of a diamond in the rough, they don't care ... Just trying to find the top 2% (as another poster called it) and spend their time and effort on them.

And that's fine. Problem is they pretend it's so much more than that and parents and players buy into the hype. Also explains the quantity and depth of dissatisfaction.

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And that's fine. Problem is they pretend it's so much more than that and parents and players buy into the hype. Also explains the quantity and depth of dissatisfaction.

Morons. Several thousand "I told you so" posts on ts but you all knew better, right?

Revs parents are the worst. Period.

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Morons. Several thousand "I told you so" posts on ts but you all knew better, right?

Revs parents are the worst. Period.

Op here - I'm one of the many saying "you should have listened". Obviously there's a lot of bullsh** on this site, but there are nuggets of truth to be found. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck....

At the same time, as a parent it's human to think your kid won't fall into that camp, that it will all be great....especially if you're new to it. Then you learn.

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And that's fine. Problem is they pretend it's so much more than that and parents and players buy into the hype. Also explains the quantity and depth of dissatisfaction.

It's a matter of expectations. If your player is not one of the chosen few, but a starter / contributor who can show well in the games / showcases, then your player can get the right level of competition and exposure to college coaches to achieve their goals (even if your player's goals aren't in line with the DAP team's goals). Players, and more importantly parents just need to readjust their expectations, and in some cases just suck it up, in order to give their player the best opportunities.

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It's a matter of expectations. If your player is not one of the chosen few, but a starter / contributor who can show well in the games / showcases, then your player can get the right level of competition and exposure to college coaches to achieve their goals (even if your player's goals aren't in line with the DAP team's goals). Players, and more importantly parents just need to readjust their expectations, and in some cases just suck it up, in order to give their player the best opportunities.

Precisely. As you and the others have said too many come in with their expectation bars set too high. We came in as a "let's see what happens/this is the best option around" view. No thoughts whatsoever about going pro. Overall I think with all of this it's good to take a one-year-at-a-time approach anyway. So much can happen like coaches or players leaving, leagues changing, kid not getting PT, or even kid not being challenged enough. I don't advocate leaving every year, but just reviewing your options before each tryout season.

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Op here - I'm one of the many saying "you should have listened". Obviously there's a lot of bullsh** on this site, but there are nuggets of truth to be found. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck....

At the same time, as a parent it's human to think your kid won't fall into that camp, that it will all be great....especially if you're new to it. Then you learn.

How many boys per year do you estimate say "no thanks" to a Revs offer? I imagine it is virtually none.

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Agreed ...

Revs do focus on "developing" over winning. But they are only concerned (as is their mandate) with "Developing" top level players with the chance to play at the National team level (and / or MLS-level). They absolutely are not there to spend equal time with each kid, or give equal playing time to each kid. They are trying to identify and then develop the handful of kids who they can promote to the National Team and / or the Revs first team.

Only God knows what they are seeing.