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    Originally posted by Unregistered
    Yes. That's why only 2% of all HS players play in college (or some similar stat that gets quoted a lot). I suspect the figures are similar for most sports - it's a very tight funnel into college athletics
    Does make you wish town travel would make a comeback for the other 98%.

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      D1 freshman playing a lot

      Player/School/G/GP/GS/G/A

      Adam Bramson/Lafayette/6/6/6/0/0 GPS/Milton
      Andrew Barrowman/UMass/7/7/6/0/0 Revs
      Joe Kellett/UML/7/7/7/0/0 NEFC/Kings High School

      Interesting that two out of the three players are not DAP players but High School/Club players

      That is all from 42 committed players!

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        Originally posted by Unregistered
        Does make you wish town travel would make a comeback for the other 98%.
        I agree, but people have to recognize that there is a way off the treadmill, and that is what clubs feed on.

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          Concentrate on academics. End.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Several recent revs, bolts and SC players are at D1 schools. I think JR already has two offers. DJ too. WJ from bolts u18 is going to Duke . A player from Seacoast u18 committed to Harvard. One of the Lowell players you watched last night played for revs academy . Amadu did ok last night. Didn't play that much but had a nice shot on goal and helped create some chances. As a side note, I thought Lowell was the better team and should have won.
            One comment above simply is not true!

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              One comment above simply is not true!
              I'm shocked

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Player/School/G/GP/GS/G/A

                Adam Bramson/Lafayette/6/6/6/0/0 GPS/Milton
                Andrew Barrowman/UMass/7/7/6/0/0 Revs
                Joe Kellett/UML/7/7/7/0/0 NEFC/Kings High School

                Interesting that two out of the three players are not DAP players but High School/Club players
                The percentage of players from DAP teams playing div. 1 is much higher. There are much fewer academies than clubs so the overall amount of players are going to come from non-DAP clubs in div. 1 but the percentage is much lower. There were some pretty interesting numbers quoted on one of the other threads a few weeks ago.
                There are numerous ways to make it but if the kid is skilled and wants to play div. 1 or pro the most logical route is DAP but not the only way.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  I agree, but people have to recognize that there is a way off the treadmill, and that is what clubs feed on.
                  Including DA clubs and USSF. Seriously. Do we need a massive league to train the country's top 2%? We don't. But they created the league to "raise the level of US soccer." All it did was add another layer of clubs. The cream of the crop almost always rises to the top. It's what you do with that cream that matters,

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Including DA clubs and USSF. Seriously. Do we need a massive league to train the country's top 2%? We don't. But they created the league to "raise the level of US soccer." All it did was add another layer of clubs. The cream of the crop almost always rises to the top. It's what you do with that cream that matters,
                    At least with DA, some of that top 2% is training with others of similar commitment level and, hopefully, skill level. If most of the top players are consistently moving to the three DA clubs in our area, then the elevated training level and competition for those teams should in theory help them to develop at a faster rate.

                    Having fewer teams would most likely backfire, as you may lose some of the top kids due to the amount of travel involved (unless DA turned into a residential program). It's a tough balance to be able to include as many regions and cast a wide enough net to attract the best players, while at the same time remaining selective enough to keep the teams as competitive as possible.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      At least with DA, some of that top 2% is training with others of similar commitment level and, hopefully, skill level. If most of the top players are consistently moving to the three DA clubs in our area, then the elevated training level and competition for those teams should in theory help them to develop at a faster rate.

                      Having fewer teams would most likely backfire, as you may lose some of the top kids due to the amount of travel involved (unless DA turned into a residential program). It's a tough balance to be able to include as many regions and cast a wide enough net to attract the best players, while at the same time remaining selective enough to keep the teams as competitive as possible.


                      As for the first paragraph - if all the players were of a similar "top" skill level that would be one thing. But there are plenty of DA players who aren't "top" or anything similar. Again size is part of the issue - we have to have so many clubs to make travel manageable, which means more weak clubs and weak players to fill the gaps. So are the top 3 players on a team benefitting that much from training with 18 other players who never in a million years have a shot at going pro or NT? Does a top level MLS club benefit from playing a bottom of the basement non MLS team?

                      Yes I know travel is a huge issue. Residency is one option for sure. But that's part of the problem trying to copy a European system here - we're too big and there are too few professional clubs. I don't know the solution but I do believe the current system isn't the answer either

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered
                        The percentage of players from DAP teams playing div. 1 is much higher. There are much fewer academies than clubs so the overall amount of players are going to come from non-DAP clubs in div. 1 but the percentage is much lower. There were some pretty interesting numbers quoted on one of the other threads a few weeks ago.
                        There are numerous ways to make it but if the kid is skilled and wants to play div. 1 or pro the most logical route is DAP but not the only way.
                        A sensible post on talking soccer? I thought this site was supposed to be to perpetuate propaganda.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          The percentage of players from DAP teams playing div. 1 is much higher. There are much fewer academies than clubs so the overall amount of players are going to come from non-DAP clubs in div. 1 but the percentage is much lower. There were some pretty interesting numbers quoted on one of the other threads a few weeks ago.
                          There are numerous ways to make it but if the kid is skilled and wants to play div. 1 or pro the most logical route is DAP but not the only way.
                          The data points out which local freshman are getting a lot of playing time in D1 soccer (only 3 out of 42). It''s interesting that of all the incoming DAP players only one is actually getting significant playing time. It's even more interesting that two of the three freshman players getting significant playing time are non-DAP players.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            A sensible post on talking soccer? I thought this site was supposed to be to perpetuate propaganda.
                            It's just one Dad that derives great pleasure from the fact that his kid plays DAP. It isn't enough for him though, so he feels a need to take shots at the kids that decide to play HS.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              The data points out which local freshman are getting a lot of playing time in D1 soccer (only 3 out of 42). It''s interesting that of all the incoming DAP players only one is actually getting significant playing time. It's even more interesting that two of the three freshman players getting significant playing time are non-DAP players.
                              It's important to remember that getting significant playing time is a lot easier at a team outside the top 25 or top 50 than it is for a team inside the top 25 or top 50. Some of the local freshmen who are not getting significant playing time (or even any playing time at all) are at schools where simply making the roster is a huge accomplishment.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                It's important to remember that getting significant playing time is a lot easier at a team outside the top 25 or top 50 than it is for a team inside the top 25 or top 50. Some of the local freshmen who are not getting significant playing time (or even any playing time at all) are at schools where simply making the roster is a huge accomplishment.
                                well none of the three who are getting significant minutes even play for top 25 D1 schools. The point is there is not that much of a difference between our local DAP clubs and players from top HS/club combinations (Milton/GPS, Kings/NEFC)

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