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    [QUOTE=Unregistered;1904983][QUOTE=Unregistered;1831014]
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

    It's year 2 with the U14 team and these players are still not part of the starting 1X. Don't understand why their parents put up with it. Better off playing for their high schools. Experiment with the Revs should be considered over.
    Because it is very tough emotionally to "go backwards." First, despite its many flaws DA is good soccer - not great and it could be so much better, but it is tops. The boys know it and want it. Depending on their local options this could be their best training option. then there's the appeal of playing with a professional team. They're also not in HS yet so there isn't that tug at their sleeves.

    However, as we've seen plenty of times, those players are most at risk as the Revs have no qualms about brining in players trained elsewhere and cutting heir own. I'm sure some of those parents know pulling them would be the better thing to do long term but they just can't do it yet.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Plenty of former "local" DA players are getting "significant minutes" on D1 teams, including CA at UNH, MR at Syracuse, CS at Harvard, 4 Oakwood players starting at Providence, 2 Beachside players starting at Notre Dame, and FP at Coastal Carolina.
      Sure there's some of those. But last I checked a team is 20+ players, 10 or so graduating each year. There will be a few decent placements then the rest are big drop-offs. Some of them are on programs they could have achieved at a top club and good grades and not done DA. No doubt that if you aspire to top D1 and have the skills then you should do DA and preferably on an MLS team. If you're not a starter, particularly if its on a weak non MLS club? Go back to club and HS and enjoy your teenage years.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered
        Sure there's some of those. But last I checked a team is 20+ players, 10 or so graduating each year. There will be a few decent placements then the rest are big drop-offs. Some of them are on programs they could have achieved at a top club and good grades and not done DA. No doubt that if you aspire to top D1 and have the skills then you should do DA and preferably on an MLS team. If you're not a starter, particularly if its on a weak non MLS club? Go back to club and HS and enjoy your teenage years.
        Serious question. How many kids on NEFC go on to play in college? 2-3/year? The top 11? Even deeper?

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Serious question. How many kids on NEFC go on to play in college? 2-3/year? The top 11? Even deeper?
          All the best kids leave there to play DA.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            You are so misinformed, it's comical. Enjoy your son's league and calm down, you'll have a coronary.
            Not wrong. I know it, you know it and everyone on here knows it. The opportunities you speak of are so very few. Keep doing it if your son enjoys it...that's what it's about. It's time that you accepted reality and stop with the negativity directed at those choosing HS.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              And so the alternative is play high school soccer? Look at the DA commits, they are going to Division 1 colleges.
              Sure, on balance, DA is the better league, and likely has a higher percentage of D1 players, but HS/club may be a viable alternative depending on your situation and what you are looking for. Look at the current varsity mens roster at Harvard, which certainly is not the top of Div 1, but not a bad option, all things considered. Based on their bios, it iooks like most of the players (but not all) played for their high schools. A slight majority look like they have some DA experience, but a good number don't. Two captains this year--one from an academy (FC Dallas) and one non-academy (GPS). Same is true if you look at their current freshman class--looks like some are academy products and some are from club/HS path. Maybe Harvard is an anomaly, but it seems that there may be multiple paths out there, depending on what you are looking for.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered
                Sure, on balance, DA is the better league, and likely has a higher percentage of D1 players, but HS/club may be a viable alternative depending on your situation and what you are looking for. Look at the current varsity mens roster at Harvard, which certainly is not the top of Div 1, but not a bad option, all things considered. Based on their bios, it iooks like most of the players (but not all) played for their high schools. A slight majority look like they have some DA experience, but a good number don't. Two captains this year--one from an academy (FC Dallas) and one non-academy (GPS). Same is true if you look at their current freshman class--looks like some are academy products and some are from club/HS path. Maybe Harvard is an anomaly, but it seems that there may be multiple paths out there, depending on what you are looking for.
                How many of those kids who didn't play academy went to prep school, where sports is a requirement. Around here, GPS fills that niche, and they are smart to do so. But if you remove prep school and DAP and kids from abroad, there is nothing left.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Sure, on balance, DA is the better league, and likely has a higher percentage of D1 players, but HS/club may be a viable alternative depending on your situation and what you are looking for. Look at the current varsity mens roster at Harvard, which certainly is not the top of Div 1, but not a bad option, all things considered. Based on their bios, it iooks like most of the players (but not all) played for their high schools. A slight majority look like they have some DA experience, but a good number don't. Two captains this year--one from an academy (FC Dallas) and one non-academy (GPS). Same is true if you look at their current freshman class--looks like some are academy products and some are from club/HS path. Maybe Harvard is an anomaly, but it seems that there may be multiple paths out there, depending on what you are looking for.
                  If you are extremely talented, there is definitely more than one route. Talent being the dominant factor. Many playing DAP are good players, but not top tier. If you play HS and you are dominant, you will get noticed. If you dominate playing for a small HS, you may have to search for exposure, but there are avenues to follow to be seen.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    If you are extremely talented, there is definitely more than one route. Talent being the dominant factor. Many playing DAP are good players, but not top tier. If you play HS and you are dominant, you will get noticed. If you dominate playing for a small HS, you may have to search for exposure, but there are avenues to follow to be seen.
                    Coaches don't do the high school recruiting circuit anymore. They may once in awhile monitor a local player but other then that you are out of luck. I agree, DA is not the only options. Players that play for a second tiers club will always be looked at because not enough academic qualified DA players to go around. Just fact.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Coaches don't do the high school recruiting circuit anymore. They may once in awhile monitor a local player but other then that you are out of luck. I agree, DA is not the only options. Players that play for a second tiers club will always be looked at because not enough academic qualified DA players to go around. Just fact.
                      yes we all know almost no college coaches go to HS games. But I think what the poster was trying to say is that if you're a top HS player (all state etc) AND you play high level club those accolades raise your street cred and at least open up the door for some opportunities.

                      As for not enough DA players to go around that is definitely true. Non DA players may not be found in numbers in top 50 D1 but not every player can or wants to play at that level. There are many top non-DA players that are better than lower level DA players. It may take more work for them to get noticed but coaches will look at talent.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        yes we all know almost no college coaches go to HS games. But I think what the poster was trying to say is that if you're a top HS player (all state etc) AND you play high level club those accolades raise your street cred and at least open up the door for some opportunities.

                        As for not enough DA players to go around that is definitely true. Non DA players may not be found in numbers in top 50 D1 but not every player can or wants to play at that level. There are many top non-DA players that are better than lower level DA players. It may take more work for them to get noticed but coaches will look at talent.
                        Exactly what I was saying. Soccer is a sport that you can see a special player pretty quickly. College coaches don't go to HS games but that doesn't mean that they don't hear about certain players and aren't monitoring their play.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Players that play for a second tiers club will always be looked at because not enough academic qualified DA players to go around. Just fact.
                          What if you're a DA player with an exceptional academic transcript?

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            What if you're a DA player with an exceptional academic transcript?
                            What if you're a DA player with a POOR academic transcript?

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered
                              How many of those kids who didn't play academy went to prep school, where sports is a requirement. Around here, GPS fills that niche, and they are smart to do so. But if you remove prep school and DAP and kids from abroad, there is nothing left.
                              Bingo.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                What if you're a DA player with a POOR academic transcript?
                                Then you end up at Umass Boston, Dean College.

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