Massachusetts Youth Soccer Owned & Operated by Creepy Scum?
Just read up on it. Unbelievable. These parents are absolutely bat**** to subject their kids to this nonsense. It is so sad, these egos are what actually drive play time and team selections. Coaches yelling at kids, swearing and acting like 14 year old boys, and let's not even mention inappropriate sexual talk. You are telling me these clowns are the best of the best for soccer coaches around here? Give me a break. It seems like this behaviour is a trend around here and people are taking it........for a shot at what free college? We are talking ECNL & GA and the North Shore, where most parents are very affluent. Are people that wrapped up in this to willingly subject their children to abuse over a game? I really don't understand it.
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Has ECNL actually said anything about this yet? One of that leagues more successful clubs is nearly imploding and they just stand on the sideline without any public comment which seems awfully strange. The Girls Academy League, while just in its infancy, seems like it could get some positive attention from all of this. Yet if this happened in that league, I feel like the whole organization would fold quickly…but ECNL is going for the head in the sand approach. That’s some impressive confidence that parents won’t care at the end of the day -
What club are we talking about? There is no north shore ECNL club.
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What you talking bout Willis?Comment
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Well, I think the parents are creepier and scummier. I will be honest. I am obnoxious. My son recently started playing more competitive soccer -- and by "more competitive", I mean instead of just doing practices, they actually play games against other teams once a week. It's a 7-and-under soccer team. The soccer is very entertaining for a parent to watch, simply because it's kind of like they just roughly explained a few rules to the kids and let them go. These rules include, "Don't touch the ball with your hands" and "Throw it in when it goes out of bounds". That's about it. Offsides? Not a chance. Counting the steps a goalie can take? Nope. Etc, etc. Anyway, it's a lot of fun to watch and I get into it a bit. Now, when I say, "I get into it", I mean I'm usually sitting on the side in my chair yelling, "go. go! Go! GO! GO! GO!GO!GO!GO!GO!GO!GO!GOGOGOGOGOGO!" to the team as they get the ball and run. I'll yell things like, "Aweome! Nice shot! Way to go!", etc. I never yell anything derogatory. I never scoff or give any kind of pouting face, etc. I'm generally just having a good time along with the kids. Now, my (wine pounding) wife comes up to me and pulls me aside, "You're coaching from the sidelines. You're yelling too much. Don't do that. The coach said he only wants polite applause." So, honestly, I'm thinking, "Yeah, **** that." But, I realize that there's probably a fine line between "GO! GO! GO!GO!GO!GO!" and "What the hell is wrong with you little ****ers!?!" I know I'm nowhere close to that line, and I would never say that. Furthermore, I have a huge amount of respect for the coach -- anyone who's going to spend his time with these kids automatically gets respect from me. And I'm betting that while I'm nowhere close to the line, from the outside I have to wonder if someone else that is close to the line looks similar. But, I don't want to sit calmly. I want to show my excitement for my kid playing. I think these little guys sprinting for an hour in the sun deserve a little enthusiasm from the sidelines. So, what is the appropriate level of excitement for a parent to show at a young kid's soccer game?Comment
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You're the obnoxiously-loud overenthusiastic guy who never shuts up, who literally hurts the ears of the people sitting around him.Originally posted by Guest View Post
While I guess yelling positive things is preferable to the spectator who is constantly screaming profanities and insults, it's still annoying and that guy needs to shut the **** up and let the rest of us enjoy the game.
At least assuming that your description matches up with the stereotype I imagined when I read it. I've sat near "that guy" at sporting events, and I wanted to hurt him.
Short version: It depends on how often you're "cheering", and how loudly you're doing it. It doesn't matter how "positive" you are if you're too loud and never shut the **** up.
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I could see where something like "GO! GO! GO!" could be a coaching concern in soccer. They're younger kids, trying to learn the game, and the coach is obviously going to want them to play as a team. Yelling that has the strong possibility of over-exciting whichever kid has the ball and sparking them to focus purely on keeping it and trying to take it to the goal. And then there's just the matter of distraction, of course. Soccer, because it's constant action and especially at that age, takes concentration. A guy losing his mind on the sidelines can really pull your mind out of the game. But yeah. In the end, just talk to the coach. Tell him that you get really jazzed and sorry if it's a distraction. He'll likely follow up with explaining why it's a concern and all will end amicably. That’s why we have alcohol!Comment
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When the Girls Academy launched in 2020, US Youth Soccer (USYS) put aside all competitive differences to our National League, an elite competitive environment established 15-years ago, consisting of 13 conferences, over 3,500 teams and 80,000 players to show unbridled support. Specifically, we built a national registration process to allow the GA to register its players in one fluid motion, through USYS to their respective State Association.
Our goal was to support the GA off the field so they could create an elite environment to allow the players to succeed on it. We also hoped that given our 48-year history, that the GA would want to utilize many of our programming assets to complement their on-field efforts. For example, USYS offered all GA teams the opportunity to partner with our National League, to join forces with our National League P.R.O. and USYS National Showcase events, which would have provided incredible showcasing opportunities for all teams.
We offered our Olympic Development Program (ODP). ODP has been active since 1977 and provides over 40,000 players each year an opportunity to take advantage of a high-performance training experience that helps every player elevate their game on and off the field.
We opened the door for teams to enter our State Cup Tournaments. The State Cups represent the first-round action for our prestigious National Championship Series (NCS). The NCS is a competition that has earned its place as the premier National Championship in youth soccer since 1974.
Finally, we are launching this fall, the National League Elite 64. This top-tier platform of the National League will invite the best 64 clubs across 8 geographic conferences to compete together. Every game will be a recruitable moment. Once the season begins this fall, only teams in the National League will have the right to be promoted into Elite 64. The National League will embrace a promotion/relegation system allowing USYS to live-up to its principles that every team must "Earn Your Place" and regardless of skill level, every team will "Have A Home".
Our vision is to bring communities together through the power of soccer, making life-long fans of the game. As a part of that vision, we operate under four core priorities. One, to create programming that provides any child the opportunity to learn and love our game. Two, to create pathways that support any level of skill to encourage all players to stay playing straight through their teenage years. Three, to invest in player development platforms that will allow every player the ability to elevate their game to the highest level possible. Four, to invest resources behind the acquisition, retention and development of coaches, and referees while creating a learning center to help parents embrace positive support techniques and sideline behavior.
Unfortunately, the GA has taken a stand to discourage any team or player from taking advantage of the USYS portfolio of assets and most recently, mandating that no club accept our invitation to join the USYS National League Elite 64. As I write this, the GA Board is planning to meet Wednesday to decide if they as a league should remain a part of the overall USYS Family or move over to a separate sanctioning body.
To me, this simply does not appear to be a true partnership. Because of this, and beginning with the fall 2022 season, should the GA remain within the USYS Family, we will make one change in our offered support. We will no longer recognize the GA as a national platform. As such, we will no longer offer the GA a single registration process but ask that each team register directly with our National Network of State Associations. This is the same process that is embraced by tens of thousands of teams and over 2.3 million players every year.
While we value the GA and what they are bringing to the sport, we must remain fair and consistent to the 2.3 million other players that do utilize our vast resources. Again, since most teams within the GA already had a direct relationship with its State Association, registering direct through them will not be a burden and will not impact any specific player.
Have a great fall season and feel free to reach out to the national office with any questions.Comment
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Not our experience at all trying out at top clubs and seeing others do the same. Coaches can assess talent. They may want to understand why you are leaving the particular club, and may want to confirm whether the kid is likely to have greater or lesser development given where they are coming from, but talent is talent and speaks louder in tryouts than your lineage, especially if you are at the right club. They are more interested in the team than the club from which the player is coming.Comment
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Originally posted by Guest View Postshe did say the encl was on the ns.ECNL & GA and the North ShoreComment
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LOLOriginally posted by Guest View Post
"We offered them this broken down barnacle barge called 'ODP' and still they weren't happy"Comment
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OMG! The current youth soccer scene is not great.Originally posted by Guest View Post
But he blames the culture, not the landscape.
Has there ever been fewer opportunities for players to stay on a quality team in youth and develop?
Have there ever been fewer chances to play college soccer?
Have there ever been this many leagues, this big of a disconnect between “elite”?
ECNL, MLSNext, NAL, ECNL RL, EDP…
It’s ridiculous.
Yes youth soccer is in a bad position right now, but to blame the parents who pay for all of this to keep going is ludicrous.
If MLS chose 10-15 years ago to implement pro-rel, we would see so many more opportunities for players to develop and advance following a proper professional roadmap.
But the pressure isn’t on MLS teams to win and develop. The pressure is on them to develop, sign, and sell for profit.
It’s a shame that we think we are caught up to the rest of the world, while parents are still paying $2k-4k a season for their kids to call themselves elite. Where’s that $$ really going? To the clubs? Sure.
But to the leagues, the tournaments, and the facilities, that’s where it all goes. Fields in the dmv are impossible to come by. Leagues all have their hands out looking to expand. Tourney fees are insane. Everyone wants their piece, but it’s up to the parents to change that? Not seeing that. Maybe Bruce Arena was a little isolated during his playing days and hasn’t seen how far we have fallen, I get that parents (I’m not one, I’m a coach, for the record) can be a lot to deal with when their kids are involved, but everyone is playing in the same sandbox.Comment
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Lady, Bruce Arena played in the late 70s for the ****ing Tacoma Tides. Furthermore, he didn’t even start. If you mentioned Kenny Arena, I may be more inclined to agree with you. Wow-the original story is chilling. Anything that even hints at sexualizing children is gross. This is another example of intentional controversy for financial gain. When I recognize this phenomenon I tell my brain to let go of it and not give it any space in my head. I intentionally avoid products from such companies, as much as is possible. I become ‘unsold’.Originally posted by Guest View PostComment
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