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[QUOTE=Guest;n4271089]150 hospital admissions in CT in the last 24 hours[/QUOTE
On an average day in CT, 122 will get admitted to a hospital for circulatory issues, 98 for digestive issues.
Every day.

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Even today, there are just over 1000 hospitalized for “ COVID related” reasons , which still may indicate some arrived for another reason and tested positive.
That is out of the approximately 9000 available hospital beds in CT . Last I checked , occupancy was around 78% total for all reasons.
Figures my vary as beds Amy be occupied by more than one patient in a given 24 hour period.

hospitals typically operate at 95% occupancy without a pandemic- thats how they make $$$$$
so 78% is not a good sign for them-profit wise

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hospitals typically operate at 95% occupancy without a pandemic- thats how they make $$$$$
so 78% is not a good sign for them-profit wise

It depends upon how you perceive the data. In a 24 hour period, more than one person my occupy a hospital bed. The 78 % figure is roughy based on the average 5.1 days of occupancy by a patient.

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Yes this is a different virus than last year. What’s your angle here? You want every employee in every business in America to be out for a few weeks so you can take your mask off? You don’t think the virus won’t mutate after hitting that many people in a quick period of time and the very same people will be unable to work, make your food, or sell you stuff. How is that better? What are you looking for exactly? If this about your “personal rights” at the cost of society. Sorry there’s no utopia in a world where everyone can do what ever they want - read “A Brave New World”. We have to stay mostly on the same page to survive. It’s why we why we don’t marry our brothers and sister and why we don’t eat a human for lunch. These things degrade our future. Why do you want a future where everyone is sick all the time and cannot participate in life. While you would be technically alive, you’d really be dead.

whoa...easy drama queen

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This does not jive with the history of virus mutations. Viruses typically evolve in a way to become less lethal to their host which then gives the virus the benefit of living and replicating easier.

Nope - unlike humans the virus cannot communicate across hosts to know it’s going too far. This isn’t the Borg, Spock.

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It depends upon how you perceive the data. In a 24 hour period, more than one person my occupy a hospital bed. The 78 % figure is roughy based on the average 5.1 days of occupancy by a patient.

agreed so are they counting that as 2 beds or just counting 1 bed as occupied (doesnt matter how many people ,just that the bed is full) ?

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agreed so are they counting that as 2 beds or just counting 1 bed as occupied (doesnt matter how many people ,just that the bed is full) ?

Recent thing I learned having had both elderly parents in and out of the hospital lately - hospitals delay actual discharge until post lunch so they can bill insurance for the full day for the discharged patient, as well as a full for the new patient that takes the bed. No doubt that muddles the actual numbers.

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Recent thing I learned having had both elderly parents in and out of the hospital lately - hospitals delay actual discharge until post lunch so they can bill insurance for the full day for the discharged patient, as well as a full for the new patient that takes the bed. No doubt that muddles the actual numbers.

It wouldn’t muddle any trends because the bed management practices would be held constant before and during the pandemic.

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agreed so are they counting that as 2 beds or just counting 1 bed as occupied (doesnt matter how many people ,just that the bed is full) ?

It is all very murky.
Additionally , one must also consider that a number of patients might not be actually admitted but occupying a bed in a hospital under the “ two midnight “ standard of observational practice.
The “ covid related” label, for admission is indeed quite murky. Typically 90 total or so patents a day are admitted to CT Hospitals, and almost without exception, none of them have a “ related” part of their illness , or reason for admitting.

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This virus will explode next week. More and more positive cases. Colleges are already planning on starting later or even going virtual for the beginning of the semester. High schools will start delaying start dates as well

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It is all very murky.
Additionally , one must also consider that a number of patients might not be actually admitted but occupying a bed in a hospital under the “ two midnight “ standard of observational practice.
The “ covid related” label, for admission is indeed quite murky. Typically 90 total or so patents a day are admitted to CT Hospitals, and almost without exception, none of them have a “ related” part of their illness , or reason for admitting.

Not murky. You simply count admissions with at least a COVID diagnosis and place those without it in a separate bucket. It’s a fairly simple query and the ability to look at info that way has been around for over 30 years. The only mystery here is why so many people treat Info Tech and statistics as magic.

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This virus will explode next week. More and more positive cases. Colleges are already planning on starting later or even going virtual for the beginning of the semester. High schools will start delaying start dates as well

Just as public health experts said - huge post holiday surge. The R factor is 3 - each case spawns 3 more. One of my college kids is already delayed and the other probably will be soon. I just hope it isn't longer than two weeks or so. They've had enough disruption the last 2 years.

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Not murky. You simply count admissions with at least a COVID diagnosis and place those without it in a separate bucket. It’s a fairly simple query and the ability to look at info that way has been around for over 30 years. The only mystery here is why so many people treat Info Tech and statistics as magic.

Not quite. Previous to COVID, demonstrate another illness that had a label of “ related” to the diagnosis over the past 30 years. Demonstrate another suspected malady that had testing as a protocol for treatment when a patient arrived.
The true mystery is why the Government isn’t being honest enough to report the actual number of patients admitted because they were ill from COVID, and did not just test positive when they arrived for one of the other average 90 % reasons that people show up a hospital. Same with the deaths.

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Not quite. Previous to COVID, demonstrate another illness that had a label of “ related” to the diagnosis over the past 30 years. Demonstrate another suspected malady that had testing as a protocol for treatment when a patient arrived.
The true mystery is why the Government isn’t being honest enough to report the actual number of patients admitted because they were ill from COVID, and did not just test positive when they arrived for one of the other average 90 % reasons that people show up a hospital. Same with the deaths.

I can tell you don’t work in health insurance. Each diagnosis a doctor or hospital makes is a separate CPT code. There are thousands of codes and a single visit can result in multiple diagnosis.

To your immediate question, AIDS is a great example where the presenting issue might be pneumonia, but the underlying condition is AIDS. There are so many similar examples: neuropathy and diabetes, Hepatitus C and cirrhosis, etc. Just know that the world isn’t against you, it’s just there are a lot of things you just don’t understand because you don’t work in that industry or have any formal training. The government if it were so inclined could mandate providers submit daily CPT code diagnosis of all patients for Lyme disease if it wanted to and making that report is maybe a half days work by a couple IT folks from each institution.

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Not quite. Previous to COVID, demonstrate another illness that had a label of “ related” to the diagnosis over the past 30 years. Demonstrate another suspected malady that had testing as a protocol for treatment when a patient arrived.
The true mystery is why the Government isn’t being honest enough to report the actual number of patients admitted because they were ill from COVID, and did not just test positive when they arrived for one of the other average 90 % reasons that people show up a hospital. Same with the deaths.

Regardless of whether someone tests positive at admission or while in a bed at the hospital, or even upon check out. They are still positive for COVID and should be counted and quarantined. I fail to see how this games anything. You either have it or you don’t and the past is not a prediction of the future with a virus this contagious.