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    How about all the BLM riots? Those didn’t seem to increase cases?

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      How about all the BLM riots? Those didn’t seem to increase cases?
      No they didn't. You should read up on it on the multiplestudies that examined. Most protestors were masked kept moving and it was all outside. Bar and restaurant patrons can take their masks off at their tables, are close together, talking for long periods of time - indoors.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        There were countless cases of spread via bars. We feel for businesses like yours but it was deemed a public health issue.
        Citation required.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          No they didn't. You should read up on it on the multiplestudies that examined. Most protestors were masked kept moving and it was all outside. Bar and restaurant patrons can take their masks off at their tables, are close together, talking for long periods of time - indoors.
          Right!!!!

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Sure there were. Just like the countless cases in outdoor soccer right?

            "If you were to create a petri dish and say, how can we spread this the most? It would be cruise ships, jails and prisons, factories, and it would be bars," Alozie says. He was a member of the Texas Medical Association committee that created a COVID-19 risk scale for common activities such as shopping at the grocery store.

            Bars top the list as the most risky.

            "You can't drink through the mask, so you're taking off your mask. There are lots of people, tight spaces and alcohol is a dis-inhibitor — people change their behaviors," Alozie says.

            https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...d-19-outbreaks

            https://www.forbes.com/sites/******d...h=27837add23d0

            https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/...-19-outbreaks/

            https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronav...lf-quarantine/

            https://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...rs/3308491001/

            https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...ovid-19-spread

            https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...staurants-bars

            https://www.today.com/video/15-coron...rs-85359686000

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              "If you were to create a petri dish and say, how can we spread this the most? It would be cruise ships, jails and prisons, factories, and it would be bars," Alozie says. He was a member of the Texas Medical Association committee that created a COVID-19 risk scale for common activities such as shopping at the grocery store.

              Bars top the list as the most risky.

              "You can't drink through the mask, so you're taking off your mask. There are lots of people, tight spaces and alcohol is a dis-inhibitor — people change their behaviors," Alozie says.

              https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...d-19-outbreaks

              https://www.forbes.com/sites/******d...h=27837add23d0

              https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/...-19-outbreaks/

              https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronav...lf-quarantine/

              https://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...rs/3308491001/

              https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...ovid-19-spread

              https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...staurants-bars

              https://www.today.com/video/15-coron...rs-85359686000
              I don't see any peer reviewed studies in there. Just a lot of anecdotal "news" stories. Even the one that points to some CDC report says people "with Covid were twice as likely to have visited an indoor dining establishment." What that means is they don't really know, because correlation is not causation. Maybe people who visit bars are also more likely to hug friends and do any number of other "dangerous" things.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Citation required.
                Someone beat me to it - several citations

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  I don't see any peer reviewed studies in there. Just a lot of anecdotal "news" stories. Even the one that points to some CDC report says people "with Covid were twice as likely to have visited an indoor dining establishment." What that means is they don't really know, because correlation is not causation. Maybe people who visit bars are also more likely to hug friends and do any number of other "dangerous" things.
                  You people are impossible. Go to bars. I don't give a flying phuk. Just sign a waiver that you won't seek medical treatment if you get sick.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    There were countless cases of spread via bars. We feel for businesses like yours but it was deemed a public health issue.
                    That is fine. Just pay me what I lost and I will move on.
                    Eminent Domain.
                    I am not in a financial position to take one for the team.
                    That is society (government’s) job.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I don't see any peer reviewed studies in there. Just a lot of anecdotal "news" stories. Even the one that points to some CDC report says people "with Covid were twice as likely to have visited an indoor dining establishment." What that means is they don't really know, because correlation is not causation. Maybe people who visit bars are also more likely to hug friends and do any number of other "dangerous" things.
                      Seriously - you "read" them all in three minutes from when they posted it?

                      Doing dumb things when drinking was exactly in the quote above. Dumb drinkers then get sick and give it to others. If Covid wasn't so contagious it wouldn't have become the health crisis that it did.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        That is fine. Just pay me what I lost and I will move on.
                        Eminent Domain.
                        I am not in a financial position to take one for the team.
                        That is society (government’s) job.
                        Take it up with the state rather than whine on TS all day long.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          That is fine. Just pay me what I lost and I will move on.
                          Eminent Domain.
                          I am not in a financial position to take one for the team.
                          That is society (government’s) job.
                          Go get a job and start over instead of looking for a handout you loser

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            "If you were to create a petri dish and say, how can we spread this the most? It would be cruise ships, jails and prisons, factories, and it would be bars," Alozie says. He was a member of the Texas Medical Association committee that created a COVID-19 risk scale for common activities such as shopping at the grocery store.

                            Bars top the list as the most risky.

                            "You can't drink through the mask, so you're taking off your mask. There are lots of people, tight spaces and alcohol is a dis-inhibitor — people change their behaviors," Alozie says.

                            https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...d-19-outbreaks

                            https://www.forbes.com/sites/******d...h=27837add23d0

                            https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/...-19-outbreaks/

                            https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronav...lf-quarantine/

                            https://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...rs/3308491001/

                            https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...ovid-19-spread

                            https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...staurants-bars

                            https://www.today.com/video/15-coron...rs-85359686000
                            Reputable studies only please. Those articles are predominantly from August and September, often in red states where people were working hard to disparage the openness of those states .... some of those links are dead links ... where did you copy that garbage from? Show me how they determined that the restaurants or bars in questions were where those people contracted covid. Sorry, all anecdotal without science ... of which, there is none. One more thing .... with dividers and spacing in place as well as upgraded air filtration and UV lightning, are you sure that restaurants and bars are the deathtraps they are being made out to be. Aren't consumer smart enough to make their own decisions yet? Will we ever be again or do we need the government to make all of our decisions for us forever on at this point?

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Go get a job and start over instead of looking for a handout you loser
                              Before you get another job, you should solicit governor ned's opinion as to whether it is a worthwhile job .... you decided on your own before and he shut it down. Make sure to get it in writing ... on second thought we have laws for that, that we are not observing, so don't bother.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                The earlier bill passed by the GOP controlled Congress and Trump had billions in it for big companies with virtually no oversightin where it went and how it was spent. Several congressional members and Trump Inc benefited from that as well
                                If there was no oversight, who do you blame. Here is the vote

                                Seems unanimous and bipartisan, so blame your local democrat if you have a beef with it

                                The Families First Coronavirus Response Act was adopted 363-40, with every House Democrat and most Republicans voting in favor of the measure on March 14. The vote was conducted following two days of around-the-clock negotiations between Democratic leaders and Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin.

                                The Senate adopted the measure, 90-8, on March 18, with all Democrats voting yes. Trump signed the bill into law the same day.

                                By contrast, no Republican members in the house voted for the nancy pork bill. Now they tried to jam it through the senate, and democrats cant even get their party to sign it and jam it through with no republican support.

                                Another L for Joey Basement, the aisle crosser who knows how to get bills passed

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